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post Dec 22 2015, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 21 2015, 01:06 PM)
it is highly dependable on student, right?
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I guess so la, although I do see working adults there after work hours. But generally students I guess.
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post Dec 24 2015, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(RexYap @ Dec 9 2015, 03:53 PM)
Hi i am planning to open a cyber cafe in SS15. Before that i would like to ask some pro sifu master here who have experience with CC business stuff.

Question:
1. PC, Accessories and Equipment such as : Desk, Chair, Counter and etc.( Maximum 80 Computer )
( Each PC i think can get cheap because order 80PC straight )

2. How do i find the software company who can provide the software and games to install to all computer. ( and how much is it for 80PC )

3. Server fees and stuff. ( May i know the initial cost to start a server and also the monthly fees for server internet ? )

4. The important one : Lisence... I heard a some say is hard to get because need know some one or give rasuah... But some say easy to get but pay 100K per year for license. Which is true ?  rclxub.gif

5. Monthly expenses on Electric, Water Bill. ( Any one open cc before can let me know ? for 80PC )

So far i think only these 5 problem... Let me know if i forgot to mention which stuff.
Anyone open cc before and would like to help me, PM me ur number if possible. thanks  smile.gif  biggrin.gif  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif
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RexYap,

Once again (I have been telling this in all CC threads), that the application for new CC license has been frozen for KL/Selangor, therefore you are unable to apply for new CC license until further notice.

The cost for a decent gaming PC is RM2,300 * 80 = RM184,000. Rental in SS15 ground floor shop ranges from RM10,000 - RM25,000 (deposit for shop from RM30,000 - RM75,000). Renovation cost RM40,000. I forgot how much was my game licensing, but for 80 clients you will need to prepare at least RM10,000.

All in all we are looking at a ballpark figure of at least RM300,000 (before taking into consideration server and networking set up cost).
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post Dec 24 2015, 09:39 AM

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If no new license can be obtained, what is the market value of an existing license?
cloudwai
post Dec 29 2015, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 20 2015, 06:50 PM)
U mean Cyber cafe is becoming popular again because of dota 2 ?
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post Dec 29 2015, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwai @ Dec 29 2015, 05:50 PM)
ya..dota2 save my ass smile.gif
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Bro your one is RM 2 or 2.5 ? or 3 ?
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post Dec 29 2015, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Dec 22 2015, 08:59 AM)
I guess so la, although I do see working adults there after work hours. But generally students I guess.
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nope...cyber cafe already change not for kid or student business already..b4 yes
now according to my analysis
10 years old below > 10%
10 to 18 years old > 20%
18 to 30 years old > 55%
30 to 60 years old > 15%
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post Dec 29 2015, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 29 2015, 05:54 PM)
Bro your one is RM 2 or 2.5 ? or 3 ?
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post Dec 29 2015, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwai @ Dec 29 2015, 05:57 PM)
nope...cyber cafe already change not for kid or student business already..b4 yes
now according to my analysis
10 years old below > 10%
10 to 18 years old > 20%
18 to 30 years old > 55%
30 to 60 years old > 15%
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now target uni lad
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post Dec 29 2015, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwai @ Dec 29 2015, 05:58 PM)
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Wow!! Despite inflation like heck, your price still can maintain like 10 years ago price???

Electric no makan u deep deep now ah???
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post Dec 29 2015, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwai @ Dec 29 2015, 05:57 PM)
nope...cyber cafe already change not for kid or student business already..b4 yes
now according to my analysis
10 years old below > 10%
10 to 18 years old > 20%
18 to 30 years old > 55%
30 to 60 years old > 15%
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Those 55% are students la lol.....Form 6, college, pre-uni & uni. The biggest spending power students.
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post Dec 30 2015, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(zeb kew @ Dec 9 2015, 06:40 PM)
Yang Dipertua Majlis Perbandaran Ampang Jaya (MPAJ), Datuk Mohamad Yacob berkata, sehubungan itu tidak ada kafe siber diluluskan melain pihaknya hanya memperbaharui lesen pemilik yang sedia ada.

"Penambahan permit tidak ada lagi sejak awal tahun ini.

http://ww1.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y...as&pg=lk_05.htm

That was in 2009.
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only apply in MPAJ covered area?
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post Dec 30 2015, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Dec 24 2015, 01:46 AM)
RexYap,

Once again (I have been telling this in all CC threads), that the application for new CC license has been frozen for KL/Selangor, therefore you are unable to apply for new CC license until further notice.

The cost for a decent gaming PC is RM2,300 * 80 = RM184,000. Rental in SS15 ground floor shop ranges from RM10,000 - RM25,000 (deposit for shop from RM30,000 - RM75,000). Renovation cost RM40,000. I forgot how much was my game licensing, but for 80 clients you will need to prepare at least RM10,000.

All in all we are looking at a ballpark figure of at least RM300,000 (before taking into consideration server and networking set up cost).
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post Dec 30 2015, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Alexis Sanchez @ Dec 30 2015, 08:52 AM)
300k ..  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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You're expecting RM100k++? Haha

Jordy didn't include insurance cost yet lol & possibility of protection money if you open in certain areas.
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post Dec 30 2015, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Dec 30 2015, 10:11 AM)
You're expecting RM100k++? Haha

Jordy didn't include insurance cost yet lol & possibility of protection money if you open in certain areas.
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Protection money sweat.gif sweat.gif

Indirectly we r joining gangster if open cyber cafe rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 30 2015, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Alexis Sanchez @ Dec 30 2015, 01:31 PM)
Protection money  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Indirectly we r joining gangster if open cyber cafe  rolleyes.gif
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Seriously, they didn't go extinct. It's just that you're not their target market only so far. Once you've signed tenancy agreement, pay deposits & started renovations, then you will get visited already.

Any "walk-in customers" business will be most exposed to this risk one.
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post Dec 30 2015, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Dec 30 2015, 02:05 PM)
Seriously, they didn't go extinct. It's just that you're not their target market only so far. Once you've signed tenancy agreement, pay deposits & started renovations, then you will get visited already.

Any "walk-in customers" business will be most exposed to this risk one.
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Sounds like do protection biz is even more income
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post Dec 30 2015, 05:17 PM

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bro... I been in the cc industry for bout 15yrs+ and my advice to you is there are many more business to do other than cc. U will not able to compete with the big players in ss15 subang. And even if you do, the profit u can make isn't worth it. CC business is a sunset business, the only new players who is opening is either wanna wash the money or they just blindly do it without understanding the business. Another thing is, no new license issued for MPSJ... and even if they say got, don't completely trust it. I used to have one cc in equine park, and was promised by someone(high position) in MPSJ that I will able to get it after I do some donation, in the end after I renovated and apply for the license , he increase the price to a pretty high 5 figure. So in the end, I didn't get the license and every month I had to do donation to those fellas. Worst is every now and then they still have to do operation and kacau my shop (for wayang kulit purposes) . So just stay away from the headache la, u wont enjoy it whenever your staffs call u after midnight , boss polis datang mau kopi or mpsj datang mau kopi. each time I think bout it, I'm so fkin pissed and hope those pigs go to hell.

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Wow.. looks like Dota can get hotter than wad u can expect

http://www.lowyat.net/2016/89823/gamer-sta...a-game-of-dota/

Haha

Sampai parang used to stab people also can..

No wonder cyber cafe business ong balik

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