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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.11, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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post Dec 25 2015, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(matow @ Dec 24 2015, 11:33 PM)
Sorry for the late update.

I have met up with the SA from Hong Leong Assurance, they are pushing a 6 year savings plan called "Gain Wealth".
You choose an amount (10k or 20k or any amount you are comfortable with) and you have to deposit each year that amount for 6  years. Each deposit they will give an interest of 20%, let me illustrate:-
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Please use the word properly, interest and cashback has different meaning all together.
It can be deemed a misleading statement on the bolded part

Told that in before, it is a saving plan. laugh.gif

Please read the saving plan topic to know about how saving plan works. smile.gif

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post Dec 25 2015, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(matow @ Dec 24 2015, 11:33 PM)
So...any comments or advise?
Wishing all those celebrating a very merry Christmas and a happy 2016 new year to all forumers!
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Can u ask the SA to work out IRR from 7th year onwards?
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post Dec 25 2015, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 25 2015, 01:41 AM)
Well you are paying with the amount of interest given compare to what can you get by parking your money somewhere earning double digit almost every year. Let's just say 10% of RM250k vs 4.5% of RM250k. That's a difference of about RM13k. More than enough money to go on vacations.

I will take the RM13k (vacation every year) compare to being a priority customer.
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if u can consistently get 10%, super lo! why not say 20% per year? brows.gif brows.gif
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post Dec 25 2015, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 25 2015, 09:00 AM)
I already PM you about this stuff before. Won't talk about it here. Later kena marah. Well planning to follow in his footstep next year to "Holland". Just hope really won't go "Holland". tongue.gif
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laugh.gif your pm just quote some people getting high returns laugh.gif but do u know of pipu losing even the principal? laugh.gif

hnws, if u think can always get 10% with no risk, no one talking about fd any more. u better learn about asset diversification. yes ut is fine, but not 100% investable income in there. laugh.gif
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post Dec 25 2015, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 25 2015, 09:00 AM)
I already PM you about this stuff before. Won't talk about it here. Later kena marah. Well planning to follow in his footstep next year to "Holland". Just hope really won't go "Holland". tongue.gif
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no offence but i wouldn't take any advice from ramjade. he's still a student and so far he is all only talk. he's hasn't actually go into all those. he only have fd, fp-asx and some vp-asx. talk is easy, comes at no price.
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post Dec 25 2015, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 25 2015, 07:40 AM)
Please use the word properly, interest and cashback has different meaning all together.
It can be deemed a misleading statement on the bolded part

Told that in before, it is a saving plan.  laugh.gif

Please read the saving plan topic to know about how saving plan works.  smile.gif
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Sorry about that sweat.gif
Anyway, have read the HLA savings plan topic and already decided not to take up the plan.

Thanks for the advice thumbup.gif
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post Dec 25 2015, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 25 2015, 01:41 AM)
Well you are paying with the amount of interest given compare to what can you get by parking your money somewhere earning double digit almost every year. Let's just say 10% of RM250k vs 4.5% of RM250k. That's a difference of about RM13k. More than enough money to go on vacations.

I will take the RM13k (vacation every year) compare to being a priority customer.
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Haha..

I dun want to boast much, but i had to tell u my investment is more than 500% return last year, and this year also nothing less than 200% with the capital employed. 10% is good, but if that money is risking for only 10% return, not attractive at all.. lol

But despite that, why i put FD for 4.5% ?

FD is almost no risk, unless bank collapse and ur money gone. Even that, pidm still protect 250k per bank.

FD is really do nothing and get passive income. You dun even need to find tenant or repair your leaking house and pay cukai tanah and etc.

Only risk is currency risk.

This post has been edited by Bonescythe: Dec 25 2015, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(sandkoh @ Dec 24 2015, 06:48 PM)
but for the other mach fd, you are richer by rm109.59 in 1 day.............. drool.gif  drool.gif
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how did you count that? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 25 2015, 01:54 PM)
Haha..

I dun want to boast much, but i had to tell u my investment is more than 500% return last year, and this year also nothing less than 200% with the capital employed. 10% is good, but if that money is risking for only 10% return, not attractive at all.. lol

But despite that, why i put FD for 4.5% ?

FD is almost no risk, unless bank collapse and ur money gone. Even that, pidm still protect 250k per bank.

FD is really do nothing and get passive income. You dun even need to find tenant or repair your leaking house and pay cukai tanah and etc.

Only risk is currency risk.
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post Dec 25 2015, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(sandkoh @ Dec 24 2015, 06:48 PM)
but for the other mach fd, you are richer by rm109.59 in 1 day.............. drool.gif  drool.gif
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QUOTE(cklimm @ Dec 25 2015, 04:41 PM)
how did you count that?  rclxub.gif
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laugh.gif one cert in mach 1mil as shown by u. drool.gif drool.gif

one day interest rm109.59. then mr lim must surely have more fd than that! drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(blogomatic @ Dec 25 2015, 11:43 AM)
no offence but i wouldn't take any advice from ramjade. he's still a student and so far he is all only talk. he's hasn't actually go into all those. he only have fd, fp-asx and some vp-asx. talk is easy, comes at no price.
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u will not be surprised if he turns out to be a matured student! laugh.gif doubt a normal student have the asset and investment knowledge (no doubt same as some pipu who now u see him now u dun type) that he is doing now. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 25 2015, 01:54 PM)
Haha..

I dun want to boast much, but i had to tell u my investment is more than 500% return last year, and this year also nothing less than 200% with the capital employed. 10% is good, but if that money is risking for only 10% return, not attractive at all.. lol

But despite that, why i put FD for 4.5% ?

FD is almost no risk, unless bank collapse and ur money gone. Even that, pidm still protect 250k per bank.

FD is really do nothing and get passive income. You dun even need to find tenant or repair your leaking house and pay cukai tanah and etc.

Only risk is currency risk.
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if u can consistently getting 200% to 500% return, with just few hundred thousand capital, u are multi millionaire in just few years' time! then why talk of 4.5% return and dream of 6% fd return? brows.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sandkoh @ Dec 25 2015, 05:11 PM)

if u can consistently getting 200% to 500% return, with just few hundred thousand capital, u are multi millionaire in just few years' time! then why talk of 4.5% return and dream of 6% fd return? brows.gif  tongue.gif
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No matter how good your investments work, you still need to secure/ lock your profit some day, where will be the best place to safe keep your hard earned money?
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post Dec 25 2015, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Dec 25 2015, 05:13 PM)
No matter how good your investments work, you still need to secure/ lock your profit some day, where will be the best place to safe keep your hard earned money?
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2 separate issues, boss kim! the one u mentioned is if one day u want to secure and get out fm volatile investment that can get 200% to 500% return.

another is like big bones said of doing the investment and fd. if really can get consistent return of so high percentage of 500%, no need to talk of fd. until the day we want to retire. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 25 2015, 01:54 PM)
Haha..

I dun want to boast much, but i had to tell u my investment is more than 500% return last year, and this year also nothing less than 200% with the capital employed. 10% is good, but if that money is risking for only 10% return, not attractive at all.. lol

But despite that, why i put FD for 4.5% ?

FD is almost no risk, unless bank collapse and ur money gone. Even that, pidm still protect 250k per bank.

FD is really do nothing and get passive income. You dun even need to find tenant or repair your leaking house and pay cukai tanah and etc.

Only risk is currency risk.
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Mind sharing what investment could garner 500% return? I could only think of stock/property..
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QUOTE(sandkoh @ Dec 25 2015, 05:11 PM)
if u can consistently getting 200% to 500% return, with just few hundred thousand capital, u are multi millionaire in just few years' time! then why talk of 4.5% return and dream of 6% fd return? brows.gif  tongue.gif
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Millionaire or millionhair, i dun want you to speculate my NTA la, i am only a kuci miao. If i invest rm100, get back rm600 and above, tat is more than 500% ad ma smile.gif but 1 thing for sure, i am a millionhair, so dun call me unker yet.. haha


Ok, i have to note that this kind of high return investment is not passive investment, it is highly active, risky, volatile, time consuming activity that need constant monitoring and study. There is so much work involved, can take me more than 12hrs a day to get that return.

But FD on the other hand is really doing ntg. Maybe the something that you need to do is to hunt for good promotional FD, other than that, literally sit and wait

Now u see, active income and passive income have different feel. 1 person will draw more security with a passive income, really by doing ntg and seeing money crediting into the saving acc without fail. This kind of feeling cannot be beaten by any kind of other active investment.

If one day i only know how to build my active investment return, but foresaken my passive income side, if i touchwood land into accident, paralyze, or disable, that will be too late.

Is better to diversify into something solid and u know mati mati also u will get it punya financial tool, macam FD.

I will still continue my active investment, but i will continue to use the money earn from active investment and build my passive investment/money tool, for me, most solid = FD

This post has been edited by Bonescythe: Dec 25 2015, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(sandkoh @ Dec 25 2015, 05:18 PM)
2 separate issues, boss kim! the one u mentioned is if one day u want to secure and get out fm volatile investment that can get 200% to 500% return.

another is like big bones said of doing the investment and fd. if really can get consistent return of so high percentage of 500%, no need to talk of fd. until the day we want to retire. brows.gif
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U see... 1 year is 500%, another is 200%.. the fluctuations is very big. Next year maybe -50%, possible stuff.

My style is like this
Example..

Year 1 - capital employed 100k
Total year end profit + capital = 400k
So take 200k locking FD

Year 2 start 200k
Total year end profit + capital = 300k
So take probably 100k to 150k locking

Year 3 start 150k
And etc...



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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 25 2015, 10:00 AM)
Check your PM

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no need to PM me, dude. I don't waste too much time on greens like you, no offence ya. Anyway, good to know a 'student' can qualify for Priority Banking status though, as stated in your PM . Good for you rclxms.gif

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post Dec 25 2015, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 25 2015, 06:54 PM)
U see... 1 year is 500%, another is 200%.. the fluctuations is very big. Next year maybe -50%, possible stuff.

My style is like this
Example..

Year 1 - capital employed 100k
Total year end profit + capital = 400k
So take 200k locking FD

Year 2 start 200k
Total year end profit + capital = 300k
So take probably 100k to 150k locking

Year 3 start 150k
And etc...
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unker, oops, bones, key point is asset diversification. so after your year 1, discipline enugh to do as u said, then good. but it does points to high way to multi millionaire within years if you can consistently getting that type of returns! it is possible but not everyone can made it. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(matow @ Dec 24 2015, 11:33 PM)
Sorry for the late update.

I have met up with the SA from Hong Leong Assurance, they are pushing a 6 year savings plan called "Gain Wealth".
You choose an amount (10k or 20k or any amount you are comfortable with) and you have to deposit each year that amount for 6  years. Each deposit they will give an interest of 20%, let me illustrate:-

Let's take for example the deposit amount is 100k each year:-

Year.    Deposit amount.    Interest given
1.                100k.                          20k
2.                100k.                          20k
3.                100k.                          20k
4.                100k.                          20k
5.                100k.                          20k
6.                100k.                          20k

Total.            600k.                          60k

Only on the 7th year can you touch the deposit amount. The interest you can use after year 1 (I think so).anyway, if you decide not to take out the interest, the interest amount will earn 5.25% pa interest.

They tell me that the principal and interest given is guatanteed and if case of any unfortunate circumstances before the plan is finish, they will guarantee the whole 6 year principal amount to the nominated beneficiaries.

They also indicate that the interest amount will written black n white on the policy.

So...any comments or advise?

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I know you have mentioned you are not interested. I still think it is not the principal nor interest which we used in FD terms. The principal should be the amount you want to insure or save, example 100k, the cash return is 20k. The actual premium which you have to place yearly is definitely more than 100k

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QUOTE(sandkoh @ Dec 25 2015, 09:42 PM)
unker, oops, bones, key point is asset diversification. so after your year 1, discipline enugh to do as u said, then good. but it does points to high way to multi millionaire within years if you can consistently getting that type of returns! it is possible but not everyone can made it.  thumbup.gif
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I had a fren, real case..

Year 1 - 60k capital
After year 1, total gain + capital = 160k

Year 2 - capital 160k + 60k loan = 220k
End year 2 = left 40k

Now trying to rebuild back.. but it is tough with current market situation.

The problem is because he didnt lock.

Same for my scenario, if i didn't lock, a few mistake will be having me say bye bye to my profit, or worst, even capital.

Btw, there is no highway to success. My way is not highway at all, it is crazy tons of works and a lot a lot a lot of research, networking, meeting people bosses and dedication and passion. Not highway at all, i work more than 12hrs during my starting point without any result, endured for 2 3 years.

So back to FD, i just want to point out that why rich people still put FD is because, the nature of FD, u just can't get it anyway easily with that kind of assurance and liquidity

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