Just gathered the receipt in my car's glovebox, for this year (2015) maintenance alone..



After all these there are still parts that needs to be replaced such as the wheel bearings, aircond cooling coil and condenser, absorber.

This is only a 4 year old Peugeot. An average bread and butter european car. I wonder how much do premium european car owner (BMW, Mercedes, Audi etc etc) spend on yearly maintenance alone?

Any owners would like to share theirs?

This post has been edited by Boy96: Dec 4 2015, 02:21 AM

Wow...quite expensive to own Pug.

So far ,my 4 years old ford cost around rm1k this year and it already clocked 140k km

This post has been edited by gahpadu: Dec 4 2015, 04:14 AM

What tires were you using anyway? 1.4K++ for a pair?

Anyway, prepared to bear the consequence for the so-called premium ride. I think most of the time, you can get away without doing the unnecessary maintenance but if you really like the car and wish to keep it in really good condition, this is the price to pay.

Not sure how much pricing has changed, but I was usually asked to drive the car back after servicing. Normal oil change already >1K 2-3 years ago. Speaking of which, I do noticed that even the Japanese marques had price increase for official sc servicing.

all SC works of course expensive,

toyota also easily reach that fiure

Battery RM320 fuuuuuuu can tahan up to 5 years?

yep sc price is expensive. unless u'r still under warranty.

Does the front brake disc and engine mount need to be replaced so early at 77k? Is this a normal routine maintenance for peugeot cars?

Wow 3k for tires? That's pretty ex

Goodyear Asymmetric 2 225/40/18

only the oil change was done at SC (for record keeping ), other repair works are done at an outside specialist.

1 year only

My front and rear brake disc was badly scratched and I was told not to skim it (all specialist I went told the same thing). So for cost purposes I only did the front ones first as the rear ones are way more expensive than the front.

Yes my mounting crack already



This post has been edited by Boy96: Dec 4 2015, 09:36 AM


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to change the engine mount at 77k kms is pretty early. Usually engine mount would fail at 100k - 150k depending on how you drive. Nevertheless, Peugeots are not well known for reliability. Thus, you would spend more than usual to upkeep your ride.

Also, why was your disc brakes badly scratched? Didn't you use the original brake pads? Or was it aftermarket ones?

All original, not a single aftermarket part in this car

Well, worse still my Proton had its engine mounting failed at 30k KM, luckily its under warranty

This post has been edited by Boy96: Dec 4 2015, 10:07 AM

damn espensip.

Great sharing. To be frank, your maintenance is a little at the high side. Of course the maintenance takes into consideration based on the distance traveled too.

I'm driving a 3 year old CC, I spent around 1K for maintenance + brake pads changes for this year alone. I would say newer car needs to maintain less.

Nice sharing. I'm also in the mid of clearing all papers in my 7 year old vw polo. Here is breakdown money spent:
2014
- normal service: filter, oil, plug seal rm378
- radiator leak: rm498
- backside itchy, change absorber to Bilstein B8: rm3200
- major service: timing belt, water pump, normal service, all bushes, gear oil, DV, vacuum hoses, spark plugs, 4x Michelin PS3, etc rm7800 eat ping pong biscuits for few months.
Total in 2014: rm11,876

2015
- normal service: rm550
- change battery (Trane) after 3 years of use: rm404
Total in 2015: rm954

Not really. My previous vios also change engine mounting less than 100K. I do admit I 'FLY' over bumps like rally.

I think in Malaysia hot and humid weather, even rubber products are not spared. They tends to harden after few years especially if you left it to baked in the sun a lot.

This post has been edited by andrekua2: Dec 4 2015, 01:34 PM

remove the absorbers and tyres, wayyy cheaper than TS

yup... definately it depends on the way you drive. My scooby bought brand new to date never had any engine mounting problem. Mileage is now 90k. My previous ride, Alphard can go 130k before I had to change the mounts!

then it's a surprise that the disc is badly scratched. What's more worse is that it's not advisable to skim it.

Like all continentals, Peugeot are nice to drive but when maintenance kicks in...

If this is what you have to pay to maintain a Pug then maintaining a BMW or Merc is less expensive. My brother spends about RM6K a year to maintain his Merc. A BMW owner (3 series) also told me about RM6K. Not sure about Audi.

Thus I can conclude free service from authorized SC do play an important role for owning a car?

SO far my fiesta claimed me less than 5k including two sets of wheel(4x MC5, 4xRE003, 2x used original rim), one battery (roadside breakdown on holiday week) for a span of 2.5 year.

Free item I got including free oil change/filter, wiper(front and back), brake pads and rotor skim

Battery if changed in SC also free. Warranty and free service ended tho. And timing belt change is needed in few months time.

This post has been edited by JunJun04035: Dec 4 2015, 03:15 PM

Don't know can I share my exp or not since I pakai Proton only...

Around 6 months, two times of service.
1st semi eo, 2nd fully eo.
Total cost is 400 something, and it would be much cheaper if I can use my own eo..

I guess it will cost around 1k for 1 yr of usage, which including re alignment, balancing or change tires.

Anyway it's my assumption.

Lucky I m poor fella n drive Axia only..

Service interval every 10k n each service rm 150 - 250

Service outside cheaper. below 100 get semi-syncthetic.

My kelisa this year more changing of parts..
which are 4 rims (RM300) 4 tyres rm640
Battery rm160 , mounting + gasket rm250
Power window regulator + 2 window rubber rm200
Cushion refurbish RM55 1 PC rear absorber RM90
EO change x3 about RM150 timing belt RM250
Clutch pedal joint RM200 aircon add gas + air filter RM90

which is around total RM2400
Next month exactly 10 years. Maintenance OK?

This post has been edited by tankx3: Dec 4 2015, 08:26 PM

This was my maintenance cost of my Kia Optima for the last 5 years
2010 (5th year) - RM1600
2011 (6th year) - RM3243
2012 (7th year) - RM2386
2013 (8th year) - RM6429
2014 (9th year) - RM2590

I've excluded tyres as this is a consumable item which will distort maintenance cost. 2013 was unusually high as I suffered a timing belt break which needed some engine repairs.

So in retrospec it doesn't cost a lot to maintain a D segment Korean car as many people fear. Certainly it is much cheaper than maintaining a Conti.

After 5 years all the wear & tear you need to change, that is where it cost $$$

Damn so rich! I think you got chopped big time there.

Just oil changed already 500+ & 600+! I only paid <rm190 per oil change and I use 6ltr of FS oil.

Battery also very expensive. Mine is only rm170.

What is that door actuator and regulator until rm2.2k?

Those things costing 4k also are crazy expensive.

Wiper blade and top up aircon also rm268? My wiper blade are only rm10-15 and with rm250 I don't just top up aircon but I changed the whole gas and the compressor oil at already an rather expensive shop some more!

Oil change is standard pricing at SC, RM300 for 5W30 Total/Mobil1, battery use DIN 66,

Door actuator and module is because the car door electrical system failed, and because of the frameless door design, I cannot open the door because the window wont wind down a little as the system did not register to the computer that the door is being opened

Wiper blade usually around 250-300 a pair, go ask other 308 users, this 30" 26" pair is very hard to get and specialised for only this car..

Early Last year (2014), the coolant pipe burst twice in the period of 1 week, 1k+ once for the repair, so around 2k.. late last year the high pressure fuel pump went dead. Another 2k

This post has been edited by Boy96: Dec 4 2015, 11:16 PM

That's why I never buy oil at SC! They chopped big time. Same oil grade can get for just <rm150, why need to pay so much? Even so, if oil about rm300 then what's the other rm200-300 for? Just oil filter and labor to change it? I paid only rm25 for oil filter and rm20 to change oil at any nearby shop.

Wiper blade so damn expensive?? Really cannot buy in other places meh??

Well I never much of a fan of Peugeot in the first place and reading all these info and problems from you make me never want to touch that car even more! I'll just stay with those boring Japanese cars then.

This is the door module issue


Coolant leak issue



High pressure fuel pump issue, very rough idling





Engine oil leaking



This post has been edited by Boy96: Dec 4 2015, 11:44 PM

What year is your Peugeot?

March 2011. And its a CBU unit. Allthose people saying CKD units are bad because its assembled locally, isnt true at all

This post has been edited by Boy96: Dec 4 2015, 11:49 PM

Phew, only 4 yrs old and already so many problems...
Yeah again Japanese only for me. In fact I'd rather have older more conventional less hi-tech cars of early 2000/late 90s then the current so advanced cars but yet so worrying with all those complicated systems, electronics, and sensors that are headache to repair and cost the bomb!

tyre and major parts such as engine mounting should not calculate into this graph. as you are not changing this year every single year.

this data is invalid to be calculate as maintenance cost.

my 5 year old Camry at 210k mileage last month, so far for this year, the maintenance cost less than RM6k (including changing 4 tyres) and all done at Toyota

This post has been edited by cedyy: Dec 5 2015, 01:03 AM

Thus,this is for 2015 only. For last year, other parts like the high pressure pump,coolant, engine oil leak, major service so its +- the cost is around the same this year. For this car the tyres and batteries are a yearly affair

I dont have 2013 and earlier data since that time the car was still under warranty, and yes, so many parts was claimed during warranty period as well

This post has been edited by Boy96: Dec 5 2015, 01:11 AM

SELLPEUGEOTBUYGODCAR

This is why people sells off their ride before warranty ends... Same goes with VWs

Pajero vgt 5 years car. 160k km. This year around 7k for maintainance . Routine servicing every 3 months in service center. Including major service and also they had to replace valve seals in the engine they said leaking, that alone rm3.5k including labour in service center

It seems typical japanese toyota and honda still win in yerm of maintainance cost

average service for a Mercedes for the cheapest a/b class can cost up to rm1700
oil change , oil filter , pollen filter , alignment & balancing

Tyres shouldn't be calculated as maintenance cost as it is a consumable item and depends on how much you use. It's like the toner you put into your photostat machine. There is also a wide variation in prices according to personal choice. However engine mountings should definitely be under maintenance as a wear and tear or failure part even if it isn't necessary to change every year. Your real cost per year should be averaged over a few years.

This post has been edited by KennyKB: Dec 5 2015, 03:23 PM

why tukar tyre also at toyoda?

outside tukar you can easily save few hundred bucks for the 4 bijik of tyre

no doubt.

10 years old car the major part changed were just alternator and the engine top cover seal

thats all....
all service done outside

Japanese cars..
actually I thought korean maintainance caught up with Japanese already? seems Japanese still have the upper hand.
Wonder how is Proton's maitainance at 10 years

kimchi not sure......it have more complex system than sushi.

proton? at scrapyard ady how to maintain?

Koreans are cheaper to service since they dont really check much. Just simple oil change. Of course, Im saying this based on Hyundai Sonata which I sent to authorized SC to service.

As for parts, they are still slightly expensive for common parts like bumpers, headlight, tail light, etc. However when it comes to rare parts like windscreen, sunroof, etc, the figure start to fly over the roof. Sonata windshield cost 1.8K while Camry cost RM900 (IIRC). One might argue that some Koreans part are higher quality like with DRL, projector headlamp instead of reflector on common Toyota and Honda or windshield that came with rain sensor. However you do find rare occurrence where Koreans are cheaper to maintain when it comes to accessories. Usually if you had problem with Honda/Toyota side mirror LED etc, you had to change the whole unit. Koreans had the LED only module.

So if wanna jaga pocket...japanese still best bet la.

Not really. Koreans are cheaper and have better specs. Now also come with 5 years warranty. If you are lucky, like now, KIA comes with 3 years/60K free service.

Japanese are better for those who change car regularly, like every 3-4 years.

I tot long term reliability japs better...lets say keeping more than 10 years

dont' you know that Toyota is having tyre promotion and the price is as competitive as outside? the promotion is still ongoing. furthermore can pay credit card. outside tyre shop want to charge surcharge

This post has been edited by cedyy: Dec 5 2015, 05:11 PM

U also will say got promotion.

Promotion is not forever

over 12 years of ownership, average yearly maintenance for my previous audi 100 is around rm4k (divided by 12 years). there is once in a time during the ownership having cooling coil replaced, gearbox overhaul, engine major overhaul. but usually those year having the major repair also the bill wouldn't exceed rm8k for that year.
glad that those alternator, aircond compressor, and starter lasts during my ownership, quite reliable for an european car with more than 20 years old...

Coz my maintenance is like things that required a constant

Engine mouting does not need everynyear to chg

Maintenance does not necessary means constant repair/servicing. Everything that incur extra money to repair or replace are all adding up as maintenance cost.

my Peugeot front windscreen already rm2900 plus installation rm3390 (ori la) for model 407. if taiwan made one can get it done within rm2k.

recently one of my peugeot 508 headlight the led rosak ,u know how much per side bo.....cannot replace led alone...need whole set...sc asking for rm4k,,luckily under warranty ...change foc.
full turbo replacement kit ...asking for rm8k from sc.......hopefully my turbo don't kong so fast after warranty...but sure kong ....wear and tear bearing inside the turbo.but outside got made in china copy version only rm2.5k shja (turbo alone).

heard that that the new peugeot 308 lagi jialat,the headlamp no longer use bulb...full LED ...if spoil....buy a brand new headlamps.

Starting 2016 with few problems..



In addition to the leaky O rings and TPMS sensor, the aircond compressor/cooling coil/thermostat needs to be checked also, visual inspection todays shows that the coolant level is already at minimum.

Lets see how it goes on from here

Well, my BMWs (F13, F15 and G12) have full warranty and free parts/oil changes/wear & tear (including disc brakes, pumps, filters even windshield wipers etc, excluding only tyres) for 3 years, so maintenance costs are zero. I hardly keep cars longer than 3 or max 4 years, so no major costs incurred for my modest fleet so far. The incoming W222 has $5000 rebates in service vouchers, so that should last at least a year or two... Fingers crossed haha

#sellpijotbuymazda2

Below is my spending on the SLK 230. This does not incl some mod cost on front lip & bootlid, Roadtax / Ins, car care package etc.

Quite a fair bit for a Merc, but reasonable for a convertible which is > 10 years old

Mine 4 year old Peugeot 1 year alone more than 10K also.
Turbo koyak about 6K, aircon about 1K (Lucky), Fuel Pump 2k (plus towing), servicing about RM1K.
That's not incl tires etc

Sorry bro, I just sold it off....

I think I've experience enough of "Beli Boleh. Maintain Tak larat"

Mine looks like that but worst until can smell burned oil

The problem came from the top turbo hose

If you are lucky, RM600 should cover it.

This one the mechanic said its the O ring behind the oil filter..

a few other areas as well, but if its the Oil filter O ring, than you lucky.

But do check your Turbo hose at the top. That one easy get clogged and become "High Pressure" so the seals leak and you turbo will get broken soon.

18 February 2016

Parts	Cost
Engine Exhaust Water Pipe	RM 75
Oil Filter Seal Pocket	RM70
Engine Water Outlet Tank	RM680
Coolant	RM35
Brake Vacuum Pump O'ring	RM40

Total = RM 1200 including labour and GST


19 February 2016

- Check engine light came up, fault code U1208, P0134, P0135 O2 sensor issues, unplug and plug it back again, reset fault, hope for the best.

- Spotted crack in top engine mounting

This post has been edited by Boy96: Feb 20 2016, 12:22 AM

Bro, if it's an O2 sensor issue better don't play2.. Get it replaced or your engine will suffer a slow death.

not to mention the cat con too

Why Peugeot so many problems punya? I've been driving my Honda for 6 years @ 70k KM & to be honest, nothing needs replacement. Just the regular service cost only.

face prbolem kot

Parts baru order, mechanic say if check engine light comes up again then immediately go change..

Cause its a Honda, no fancy mancy electronics

308 is not even a good driving car, to begin with. Harsh ride, average handling. Not worth the money and time. I sold mine 2 years back. Peace of mind.

Those problems u faced, like leaking oil, leaking coolant, brake disc premature failure, are not electronic related also. O2 sensor is common on most cars.

This post has been edited by victor_hoh: Feb 20 2016, 01:12 PM

Among Conti cars French cars are more problematic than VW or Ford. I think they just don't bother to tropicalize the parts for tropical climate. The problem with Ford are mainly DCT related and with VW DSG related. If die die must buy a Conti car I would go for Ford > VW > Peugeot in that order with Pug think 100 times first.

RM10K a year to maintain a normal family car is ridiculous. You may as well maintain a Merc or BMW.

The new Focus 1.5L turbo with normal 6 speed AT may remove worries about reliability so those who want to try a powerful Conti car without losing sleep over maintenance can consider it. Provided you don't mine the super low resale value of course.

This post has been edited by kluseng: Feb 20 2016, 02:33 PM

Good advice from a keyboard warrior! But why mazda 2? Should be Ford Fiesta you traitor!

you do really work hard to amuse me, gooooood booooiiii.



come i clap for you


joke aside, since mazda2 is so much better than fiesta, why can't I recommend one?

free maintenance plan still intact?

Because why would you need 2 Fiesta's..

In that case take this advice #sellfofibuymazda2

I replaced the brake pads for my 3008 outside at RM 700 plus skimming. Front is Brembo and rear is Bosch.

Ohh man.. Brembo sucks. Very noisy pads. Cannot tahan & switched back to original pads.

Power of dream mah.

u prefer nissin than 3rd party brand? currently using pumatec, bad experience with this pad, overheat when turun genting..

Currently using original pads.. Nothing beats them in terms of comfort, noise & reliability.

Now that 2017 have arrived, here's the total maintenance cost for the Peugeot in 2016

Jan 2016

Tyre Pressure Monitoring fault, cost to repair, RM600 EACH
Solution: Disable the system all together = RM20

Feb 2016

-Oil filter housing gasket RM80
- thermostat housing 450+gst coolent 80

total RM 867

- parts listed in this post https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=78779345

total RM1200

May 2016

Cooling coil failure + full aircond service - RM2.3K

July 2016

Top Engine Mount - RM450

August 2016

90k periodic maintenance service - RM600

December 2016

alternator repair 750
,radiator repair400,
battery 380,
coolent85,
engineoil 100
labour 200

total RM 1915

=============================================

TOTAL overall cost for 2016 = RM 7400 ±

To start 2017 off, engine fault came on again, OBD konk which cause the diagnostic machine to be unable to find what was the actual fault + probably bearing issue from the front wheels + major service 100k.. we will see soon how much will it cost later..

This post has been edited by Boy96: Feb 26 2017, 05:07 AM

Faulty o2sensor will spoil the engine?

Yup but most likely in the long run.. Faulty O2 sensor will cause the engine to not operate within the ideal condition (it could cause your ECU to pump more fuel or less fuel cause the engine to run ric or lean. Fuel consumption will go up, carbon build up within the engine, it will run rough & subsequently causes other problems.

I see.. i tot only the o2 distribution will not be accurate but dint know it would cause other prob.. tq bro

my 4 years w204 yearly 4k.
thats using hss service centre.
if other much cheaper

Why u keep paying for most of the stuff when your car is under warranty?