How to upgrade performance for Mac, (For G4 , G3 , E-mac , Imac etc.)
How to upgrade performance for Mac, (For G4 , G3 , E-mac , Imac etc.)
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Dec 8 2006, 09:30 AM, updated 20y ago
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Hi forummer, I want to ask how can i upgrade performance Mac because I have many Mac at my place . Usually my friend use scandisk , defragment , ccleaner , system mechanics and others software to make their PC faster . So i want to know if Mac have any software similar to application I mention above which can upgrade performance Mac. Can u all tell me that software and where can i download it . Thanks. |
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Dec 8 2006, 02:11 PM
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wah....MANY mac at your place....that sounds like heaven
what OS are the 'many' mac are using? I have an article on how to speed up the OSX somewhere...but mainly for pro audio usage but I think it's applicable for all. Well, I just have to find it again in my archive.....if I find it then I'll post it here. No promise though |
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Dec 8 2006, 02:22 PM
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How to upgrade performance?
1. Add more RAM. 2. Throw away unwanted junk (files, apps) from your Mac. oh crap... here... read this... http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/performance.html |
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Dec 8 2006, 04:39 PM
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MainMenu is the only software you'll ever need for maintenance on your Mac.
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Dec 8 2006, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(aMDCoPPeR @ Dec 8 2006, 04:39 PM) how bout ONYX? |
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Dec 8 2006, 07:18 PM
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most of ONYX tools are available built-in to Mac OS X itself. ONYX only puts it all in one place where it's easy for you to point and click and not enter a bunch of codes...
oh yea... can't recall if it helps but once a while, I think it's good to boot up in single user mode and do a 'fsck'. |
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Dec 9 2006, 02:36 AM
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QUOTE(azxel @ Dec 8 2006, 07:18 PM) most of ONYX tools are available built-in to Mac OS X itself. ONYX only puts it all in one place where it's easy for you to point and click and not enter a bunch of codes... Yeap, same with MainMenu. It's basically just a GUI that makes things easier especially for people who are not familiar with the *nix shell commands or people who are lazy like me oh yea... can't recall if it helps but once a while, I think it's good to boot up in single user mode and do a 'fsck'. |
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Dec 9 2006, 08:01 AM
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but nonetheless a neat App eh? Also, I believe that its FREEWARE!!!
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Dec 9 2006, 08:56 AM
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thanks dude, actually my fren asked my suggestion for her mac. Furthermore she control mac maintenance at her work place.
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Jan 25 2007, 11:35 PM
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Hi musha01,
if you have and G3 or G4 desktop. you can have the option to upgrade the processor from Sonnet. you will see the difference of the performance if you are keen, please let me know. yoketee@sonnettech-asia.com |
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Jan 30 2007, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(musha01 @ Dec 8 2006, 09:30 AM) Hi forummer, you mean improve the performance is it...as in software side instead of hardware...I want to ask how can i upgrade performance Mac because I have many Mac at my place . Usually my friend use scandisk , defragment , ccleaner , system mechanics and others software to make their PC faster . So i want to know if Mac have any software similar to application I mention above which can upgrade performance Mac. Can u all tell me that software and where can i download it . Thanks. i use some of this tools to help with some slower machine sometimes... 1) old faithful Mac OS CD / DVD (to repair disk permissions and file system errors) 2) Norton Systemworks 3 / Disk Doctor (file system errors also) but no longer working with the systems after the PM Single G5 1.6GHz and later and also Mactels... 3) Diskwarrior (fiel system problems also) the one i like the most.. can even get rid of some errors that Disk Doctor can't get rid off.... later versions do support mactels... 4) Font Finagler (to clear font cache) a useful tool when your fonts sometimes turn into gibberish 5) System Optimizer X (one click system optimizer including fixing permission and clearing font cache) all the above is mostly legal software...but obtainable at "you know where"... most of the time is related to user... as in activating too much fonts at startup.. launching too many apps at startup... |
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Jan 30 2007, 01:13 PM
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Jan 31 2007, 12:10 PM
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err does mac mini allows ram upgrades ?
It really tiny oh man .. I been using OSX but I can't even afford a dang dang dang real mac I can't even afford the mouse |
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Feb 5 2007, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Jan 31 2007, 12:10 PM) err does mac mini allows ram upgrades ? yes... you can upgrade the RAM for Mac Mini... but you have to sacrifice your existing RAM and max is 1GB... as it only have 1 slot...unless you have the 1.5/1.6GHz Core Duo units which has 2 slots...It really tiny oh man .. I been using OSX but I can't even afford a dang dang dang real mac I can't even afford the mouse you will need a putty knife to open the top cover... and the top cover might not close back nicely as a new unit is... follow the intructions here if you want to install it yourself... Mac Mini RAM upgrade |
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Feb 5 2007, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 5 2007, 12:38 PM) yes... you can upgrade the RAM for Mac Mini... but you have to sacrifice your existing RAM and max is 1GB... as it only have 1 slot...unless you have the 1.5/1.6GHz Core Duo units which has 2 slots... how about power supply failure ? I don't think it uses the standard power supply you will need a putty knife to open the top cover... and the top cover might not close back nicely as a new unit is... follow the intructions here if you want to install it yourself... Mac Mini RAM upgrade What about the hard disk ? Appeciate yr reply Edit: I just did just google search I saw the hard disk was those 2.5" I was wondering does apple allows us to upgrade the component ourselves ? Use putty knife to open the casing sounds scary. This post has been edited by wilson88: Feb 5 2007, 09:10 PM |
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Feb 5 2007, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Feb 5 2007, 09:06 PM) how about power supply failure ? I don't think it uses the standard power supply the 2.5" disks r the original Mac Minis. The current models r using the normal 3.5" disks.What about the hard disk ? Appeciate yr reply Edit: I just did just google search I saw the hard disk was those 2.5" I was wondering does apple allows us to upgrade the component ourselves ? Use putty knife to open the casing sounds scary. |
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Feb 6 2007, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Feb 5 2007, 09:06 PM) how about power supply failure ? I don't think it uses the standard power supply as far as is know... most mac parts like optical drives and storage and RAM are standard pc parts...RAMs are apple ceritified...... which is interchangable... except for optical drives iMacs and their portables...What about the hard disk ? Appeciate yr reply Edit: I just did just google search I saw the hard disk was those 2.5" I was wondering does apple allows us to upgrade the component ourselves ? Use putty knife to open the casing sounds scary. DIY upgrade = void warranty... although they do not have any warranty stickers like PC does... but prying open the top cover of a mac mini can be noticable... it still depends on whether the service centre is in a good mood or not??? |
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Feb 6 2007, 10:48 AM
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Apple actually stated what is user installable parts. Just take a look at the apple support page. Look for your mac's section.
Most common parts is RAM. The rest like HDD, Optical Drive, Airport & bluetooth module are varied among models. The difference of DIY and sending it to Apple Certified Technician is, you spoilt it during the process you might not get a replacement. If technician didn't do a good job and f*ck up your machine, he/she will fix it for u. Or you'll makesure he/she does it. Powersupply is not user installable parts for all desktop mac(that i know), power adapter is a different thing. If your warranty expired, and you doesn't want to get expensive replacement from Apple. There's always ebay. Or if you have the older G3/G4 macs, you might be able to convert ATX puwersupply and use it. Otherwise it has to be Apple/ made for mac parts, use or new. Do bare in mind that mac's optical drive have a different firmware that allow OS booting. This post has been edited by wei: Feb 6 2007, 10:49 AM |
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Feb 6 2007, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(wei @ Feb 6 2007, 10:48 AM) Apple actually stated what is user installable parts. Just take a look at the apple support page. Look for your mac's section. i have tried using quite some LG drives and it does boot OS discs... the only thing with 3rd party and non Apple Supported drives is that you have to rely on burning softwares like toast and BURN to be able to burn discs... and burning with DVD Studio and other video editing softwares are impossible...it is a lot better than spending 1k for an apple superdrive...Most common parts is RAM. The rest like HDD, Optical Drive, Airport & bluetooth module are varied among models. The difference of DIY and sending it to Apple Certified Technician is, you spoilt it during the process you might not get a replacement. If technician didn't do a good job and f*ck up your machine, he/she will fix it for u. Or you'll makesure he/she does it. Powersupply is not user installable parts for all desktop mac(that i know), power adapter is a different thing. If your warranty expired, and you doesn't want to get expensive replacement from Apple. There's always ebay. Or if you have the older G3/G4 macs, you might be able to convert ATX puwersupply and use it. Otherwise it has to be Apple/ made for mac parts, use or new. Do bare in mind that mac's optical drive have a different firmware that allow OS booting. yes it is possible to DIY replace some parts.. but it is sometimes still the best to hand it to the technicians if they are not certain in what they are doing... i had a friend who tried to install additional memory onto his newly bought iMac G5 some time ago (the ones with the 2 plastic hooks) .. he did not slot the ram in properly and ended up causing his logic board to fail...of course he was lucky the they replaced him with a new unit... the PowerMacs are the easiest to DIY install RAM and hard drives, optical drives in my opinion.. no need additional tools... This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 6 2007, 12:09 PM |
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Feb 6 2007, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 6 2007, 12:03 PM) that does not apply to every mac, especially those older one most easy to upgrade mac should be the Mac Pro, nothing come close to it that I've use. This post has been edited by wei: Feb 6 2007, 12:37 PM |
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Feb 7 2007, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(wei @ Feb 6 2007, 12:37 PM) that does not apply to every mac, especially those older one most except for the PowerMac G3 below the 400MHz range...those are a bit fussy about the drives it uses...the macs after that works quite well with the LG drives...most easy to upgrade mac should be the Mac Pro, nothing come close to it that I've use. why do you say MacPro... are you referring to their hard drive access... that i think is quite nifty... |
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Feb 7 2007, 02:56 PM
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Not just the hard drive. CD bay. Thumbscrews on express card lane. Daugther board for more RAM. Modular PSU. Intel proc.
All those made upgrade much easier compare to PPC era. |
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Feb 9 2007, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(wei @ Feb 7 2007, 02:56 PM) Not just the hard drive. CD bay. Thumbscrews on express card lane. Daugther board for more RAM. Modular PSU. Intel proc. yes it is easier compared to PM g5... which needs to take off an additional acrylic panel and take out the fan to install more RAM... but the memory riser card seems a bit flaky and would fail everytime i unplug the card from the logic board... All those made upgrade much easier compare to PPC era. |
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Feb 9 2007, 10:58 AM
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I don't get it. Why fail? Did you push it hard enough
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Feb 9 2007, 01:49 PM
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no it did not fail... but to have another connecting board is not that good...i'd rather plug it directly to the logic board.. it is not like we need to plug and unplug everyday...
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Feb 9 2007, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 9 2007, 01:49 PM) no it did not fail... but to have another connecting board is not that good...i'd rather plug it directly to the logic board.. it is not like we need to plug and unplug everyday... With EIGHT memory expansion slots how on earth are you going to design the mobo without risers? And since you do NOT have to unplug/plug everyday why would the risers be a problem?I like the riser design. It means my RAM is cooled by a nice big 12in fan and airflow to the RAM is also unobstructed. |
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Mar 13 2007, 05:30 AM
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I dont want to start new thread so I think its ok to as k in this thread- quite related to my Q.
How much is price for Graphic card for PowerMac G 400MHz? Where can I find 2nd hand one? Thanks. |
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Mar 13 2007, 03:22 PM
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Depend on what you want and which you can afford.
gforce 5200? Radeon 9800? or even 7800GS? Price won't be cheap or else you're brave enough to flash the PC card into mac compatible. Which I might do soon when I receive my Sawtooth logicboard this 2 weeks. |
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Mar 13 2007, 06:03 PM
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@wei
Someone offering me a 400Mhz PM G4 for around RM200 but there's no graphic card together. If worth it I am planning to buy it and make it Linux server at my house or if can, want to install Panther or Tiger just for typing. I have one Panther license lying down under the desk. If flash the PC graphic card's chip will it make cost lower? Just need low-end graphic card, not for high-end purpose, typing or server purposes only. Any recommendation wei? |
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Mar 13 2007, 06:18 PM
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try ebay my friend. you might able to get the stock Rage128 card for a low price.
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Apr 1 2007, 11:36 AM
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hi guys,
can we upgrade the graphics card for a PwrkBk 12" G4? |
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Apr 1 2007, 05:29 PM
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Again , you can't upgrade laptops graphics card. That goes for any laptops.
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Apr 2 2007, 12:36 AM
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