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post Dec 4 2015, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 2 2015, 07:58 PM)
hi guys, just got my persona H-Line 2012 white colour from used car dealer this afternoon. So far the ride is good and comfortable. Seems like my car kena the infamous IAFM tak tak sound problem

I wanna know if I dont replace it, long term will have major problem or not? Any owner that experience IAFM module problem but never replace it? pls share share
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last time i had a chat with Proton mechanic in Glenmarie,they say the tak tak tak sound may came from 2 sources.

The IAFM and purge valve canister.

For me ,i will just replace the purge valve canister first.if your FC seem worrying from time to time.Change this.Much more cheaper and easy to replace.

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A canister purge valve is a solenoid valve controlled by the Power Train Control Module. The Power Train Control Module is a control unit that determines the ignition timing, fuel amounts and other parameters needed to keep the engine running.

Function
The canister purge valve serves as part of the emission control system in a car, and it measures the flow and amount of fuel vapor that is recycled into the combustion process via the charcoal canister, or fuel vapor storage device. Canister purge valves are also used in "leak tests," by allowing a vacuum to be created throughout the fuel storage system when the valve is closed, thus preventing outside air from entering the system.

Performance
Factors that can affect the performance of a canister purge valve include unclean valve conditions and valve blockage. Valve blockage is caused when an obstruction becomes lodged in the opening of the valve, causing a backup of the fuel and air mixture.


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This post has been edited by Xefron: Dec 4 2015, 02:38 PM
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post Dec 4 2015, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(benson92 @ Dec 4 2015, 01:51 PM)
groaning noise like ? mine always high pitch when apply brake in low speed.. with new brake pads, can apply lithium grease to the back of the brake pad as well?  unsure.gif
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Low frequency noise. Should not be a problem to apply a suitable layer of grease to the back of the pads.
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post Dec 4 2015, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 4 2015, 01:46 PM)
I took some time to apply some synthetic lithium grease to the back of the brake pads for the front since the morning groaning noise was way too much after the insulation layer got removed. For now my brakes do not groan loudly anymore early in the morning, and even without warming up, when the car closes to a halt, the brakes hardly groan as well. If it stays like this, I'll probably get some proper brake grease to replace the current one since it's only rated for 200+ Deg C.
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What type of noise is groan? Not screeching in high pitch ? Is it a low pitch voice ? Like wang wang wang.

Why did you remove the insulation layer ?
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post Dec 4 2015, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Dec 4 2015, 03:27 PM)
What type of noise is groan? Not screeching in high pitch ? Is it a low pitch voice ? Like wang wang wang.

Why did you remove the insulation layer ?
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"Ngummmmmmm" sound. Does not hurt the ears but it's loud and annoying.

I told one of the foreman to re-adjust the insulation layer of the pads since they weren't seated properly, but he proceeded to tear them off on the pretext that it doesn't do anything and that it's just plastic.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 4 2015, 03:28 PM)
"Ngummmmmmm" sound. Does not hurt the ears but it's loud and annoying.

I told one of the foreman to re-adjust the insulation layer of the pads since they weren't seated properly, but he proceeded to tear them off on the pretext that it doesn't do anything and that it's just plastic.
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The insulation layer is very important. My previous brake pads does not have it... That's why the screeching.
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post Dec 4 2015, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Xefron @ Dec 4 2015, 02:34 PM)
last time i had a chat with Proton mechanic in Glenmarie,they say the tak tak tak sound may came from 2 sources.

The IAFM and purge valve canister.

For me ,i will just replace the purge valve canister first.if your FC seem worrying from time to time.Change this.Much more cheaper and easy to replace.

CODE
A canister purge valve is a solenoid valve controlled by the Power Train Control Module. The Power Train Control Module is a control unit that determines the ignition timing, fuel amounts and other parameters needed to keep the engine running.

Function
The canister purge valve serves as part of the emission control system in a car, and it measures the flow and amount of fuel vapor that is recycled into the combustion process via the charcoal canister, or fuel vapor storage device. Canister purge valves are also used in "leak tests," by allowing a vacuum to be created throughout the fuel storage system when the valve is closed, thus preventing outside air from entering the system.

Performance
Factors that can affect the performance of a canister purge valve include unclean valve conditions and valve blockage. Valve blockage is caused when an obstruction becomes lodged in the opening of the valve, causing a backup of the fuel and air mixture.


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According to the computer, it said 8.1L/100km. Mine is auto. Is the FC normal for PE? City drive only

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 4 2015, 04:02 PM)
According to the computer, it said 8.1L/100km. Mine is auto. Is the FC normal for PE? City drive only
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normal for Persona.

but if u drive during hot afternoon ,and the FC seem worst and got tik tik tik sound,u need to replace the purge valve canister.

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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Dec 4 2015, 03:31 PM)
The insulation layer is very important. My previous brake pads does not have it... That's why the screeching.
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Yup, it is indeed. The plastic layer that comes on all the Bendix MKT pads which Bendix calls the insulation layer can be easily unseated when the brake calipers are put on since only the middle part of the layer is glued to the brake pads.
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post Dec 4 2015, 05:58 PM

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One of the recent "fix" I did to my car was to wrap the plastic of the all the door strikers with a layer of electrical tape since they're all already broken. It seems to be a problem for many, if not all Personas, and for mine it was causing my door closing noise to be inconsistent (for the rear right door, it started closing with a loud plastic KOK noise recently), and worse still, preventing some of the doors from being shut properly at times.

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For now it seems that the doors are closing more consistently now, and the noise when the door closes/open is now consistent and less "metalic" sounding when the metal bit that latches onto the door striker unlocks.


Edit: Do not remove the plastic bit from the door striker unless you want to deal with a metallic noise whenever the door closes.

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Dec 4 2015, 05:58 PM)
yay...PE never dies...
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post Dec 4 2015, 08:27 PM

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Hi, suddenly there is enjin indication signage light up on odometer after 5 years driving, any advise what's going wrong?
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QUOTE(Xefron @ Dec 4 2015, 04:14 PM)
normal for Persona.

but if u drive during hot afternoon ,and the FC seem worst and got tik tik tik sound,u need to replace the purge valve canister.
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i get that FC cause ytd keep jam jam jam.. keep stuck in jam for long hours.. nope, i didnt hear any tik tik tik sound. shud be okay..hehe..
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post Dec 4 2015, 09:13 PM

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Just notice my car tyre damn noisy on uneven road.. When I look at the tyre used by previous owner,

1) 2 biji is ecotopia or ecopia.. forgot exact name
2) 1 biji is bridgestone
3) 1 more biji I no see..

Btw, still got question to ask since Im new to PE. When I'm inside my car with engine on, after I unlocked the car door, I open and close, it will auto lock again after close. normal kah?

and now i notice got some rat sound when braking low speed. probably due to cheap brake pads
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post Dec 4 2015, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 4 2015, 09:13 PM)
Btw, still got question to ask since Im new to PE. When I'm inside my car with engine on, after I unlocked the car door, I open and close, it will auto lock again after close. normal kah?

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Yes if your handbrake is down. If your handbrake is up it will not autolock when u close the door.
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 4 2015, 09:13 PM)
Just notice my car tyre damn noisy on uneven road.. When I look at the tyre used by previous owner,

1) 2 biji is ecotopia or ecopia.. forgot exact name
2) 1 biji is bridgestone
3) 1 more biji I no see..

Btw, still got question to ask since Im new to PE. When I'm inside my car with engine on, after I unlocked the car door, I open and close, it will auto lock again after close. normal kah?

and now i notice got some rat sound when braking low speed. probably due to cheap brake pads
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As long as your hand brake is not engaged and you are pressing the brake pedal, your door will auto lock if you open and close the door, or if you press the brake pedal when your hand brake is not engaged and the door is not locked.

Edit: Should be Ecopia, and it is from Bridgestone.

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 4 2015, 09:26 PM)
Yes if your handbrake is down. If your handbrake is up it will not autolock when u close the door.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 4 2015, 09:27 PM)
As long as your hand brake is not engaged and you are pressing the brake pedal, your door will auto lock if you open and close the door, or if you press the brake pedal when your hand brake is not engaged and the door is not locked.

Edit: Should be Ecopia, and it is from Bridgestone.
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oo..thats very good since crime is everywhere now.. some people after open door forgot lock back..
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Hi guys, long time never come back to this thread.
Just like to check, anyone uses Motul engine oil and where to get it?
Which brake pad is good? Time to change brake pad liao.

Thanks guys.
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post Dec 5 2015, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 4 2015, 09:13 PM)
Just notice my car tyre damn noisy on uneven road.. When I look at the tyre used by previous owner,

1) 2 biji is ecotopia or ecopia.. forgot exact name
2) 1 biji is bridgestone
3) 1 more biji I no see..

Btw, still got question to ask since Im new to PE. When I'm inside my car with engine on, after I unlocked the car door, I open and close, it will auto lock again after close. normal kah?

and now i notice got some rat sound when braking low speed. probably due to cheap brake pads
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Some comfort or good nvh tyres : Continental CC5 , Toyo Neo energy , Dunlop D05. I myself using toyo, quiet and soft tyre I would say.

Brake rat? High pitched sound when slow braking ? Change to a better brake pad such as Bendix , not high performance type.
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