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post Feb 1 2018, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(efariz @ Feb 1 2018, 10:12 AM)
Hi guys, anyone know where workshop provide knocking & paint service?
my front bumper & fender need new paint coz scratch & some dent..
prefer around Klang Valley only..thanks!

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Since you sending her to paint already, you can check does the paint shop do headlamp polishing also. I got mine did for RM350 in Johor here. Like new.
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post Feb 1 2018, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(efariz @ Feb 1 2018, 11:02 AM)
plan to polish the headlamp too at Melaka, both for rm60..
good deal right? maybe next month i go there..
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The polish done by paint shop and car detailing shop is very different.

Car paint shop job is more expensive. The procedure includes taking down the headlamp, sandpaper them, then reapply lacquer. It's usually done on traded in cars to make them look like new ones before sold by secondhanded car dealers.

Detailing shop just polish them using their polish paste. Small difference before and after and it'll blur back fast. Cheaper though.
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post Feb 1 2018, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Feb 1 2018, 11:29 AM)
The polish done by paint shop and car detailing shop is very different.

Car paint shop job is more expensive. The procedure includes taking down the headlamp, sandpaper them, then reapply lacquer. It's usually done on traded in cars to make them look like new ones before sold by secondhanded car dealers.

Detailing shop just polish them using their polish paste. Small difference before and after and it'll blur back fast. Cheaper though.
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My lamp was like yours. This is after. I did it around April 2017.


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post Feb 1 2018, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(efariz @ Feb 1 2018, 11:42 AM)
ahh..i see..alright..thanks for the suggestion..
i'm still looking to knock & paint the damage..
have limited budget..so far got 2 offer (rm380 & rm430)..
still survey..hope can fix this weekend..
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If you're not too particular and on tight budget, I would suggest do fender only first.. Bumper won't rust and can wait. Lol..

But this is personal preference la.. I understand the intention to keep car body cantik...
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post Feb 1 2018, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(efariz @ Feb 1 2018, 11:59 AM)
yes..fender got dent, thats why i want to do it first..
bumper only scratch..if price if within my budget, i will do both..
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Cool. Glad to hear that! My best wishes on getting the best deal and workmanship in Melaka! If you're in JB then I can give you my recommendation.. 😊
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post Feb 2 2018, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 1 2018, 07:50 PM)
fuiyoo, RM350 to respray headlamp?
I thought last time i saw Mudah new OEM headlamp only RM120-150/pc, might as well buy 2 pcs @ RM300 max...

btw, i respray the headlamp myself, RM6.90 for clear lacquer, lasted 2 years already. only polished twice in between. Now starting to yellowing a bit due to non-UV protective lacquer used. Can respray again but nowadays I'm lazy. blush.gif
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Good for you. But I prefer original over OEM anytime. Think just preference issue.
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post Feb 5 2018, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(sonixmedia @ Feb 5 2018, 10:53 PM)
Hello... I am using Proton Persona 2008 Dec, Now my engine sometimes come up with white smoke and smell something burned... I think engine oil leaking. How to solve and Usually how much need to spent? and Another issue have sound tok tok tok when engine idle.. what is it? Do I need to concern? What to repair.

Any advice or tip are highly appreciate. Thank you
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Whute smoke from engine bay?

Best get it checked by your trusted mechanic.. Don't think any DIY can settle this kut..
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post Feb 6 2018, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatmo @ Feb 6 2018, 12:40 AM)
Hi every1, Im from South Africa where there is no Proton  support.So my 2012 Persona A/T wouldnt start one day, checked fuses,relays, keys, all fine. mechanic says new crank sensor needed, changed it. DTC shows Map sensor, changed Map sensor, still no change. Now DTC shows Cam sensor but sensor is fine after testing it. Problem is no spark so Im tracing the fault wire from coil backwards, now need to remove dash but taken all screws and bolts that I can see but dash is still sitting tight,can anyone guide me please
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I'm not mechanic but I was told by SC technician that Persona with wiring problem is not uncommon. The first thing you can try is to unplug your battery terminal for 5 minute at least and connect it back. It works for my when I cannot start my car last few times.
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post Feb 6 2018, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatmo @ Feb 6 2018, 03:51 PM)
Thanks for suggestion, Tried that, left the battery off overnite, didnt work, just struggling to take the dashboard out,something is holding it on the passenger side, just cant see what it is
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Sorry to hear that. This is out of my knowledge. You might want to wait for reply from the other experienced forum members.
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post Feb 12 2018, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Feb 12 2018, 08:22 AM)
Hi anybody has changed the engine gasket sealer? It's a common problem for campros right. Mine seems like leaking
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Changed to silicone one during first timing belt change. Mechanic told me it's common.
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post Feb 18 2018, 11:46 PM

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Just curious how many of us here got oil catch tank installed in their persona?
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post Mar 16 2018, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(blacky88 @ Mar 14 2018, 10:55 AM)
Hi guys. My car have just clocked 100k and recently my persona have a few odd sounds from the engine bay.

Below are the 2 description of the sound.

1. When hard accelerate and revving the engine, during 70-80 km/h u can here "clonk-clonk-clonk sound". After that it will be fine. No such sounds during high speed run or smooth highway run.

2. I just done adding new grounding cable to my persona. After that when engine is stop and idle, and air-conditioning is switch off, u can hear clearly the soft background sound of "rrrrrrrrrrrrr" from the engine. This will happen regardless of cold start or when the engine is hot. You can still hear it when the aircond is on but much less due to the loud aircond noise. If the car is moving u can't hear the noise anymore.

So far there are no visible performance loss from this sounds. But I am a bit worried about the long term impact for it.

Currently using Shell / BHP Ron 95.

Do you guys have any experience on this?
Will appreciate any input from you guys. Thanks.

And any recommended shops at klang valley where I can diagnose campro engine? Thanks ! smile.gif
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1) for sound problem I only got sounds that similar to knocking sound around certain rpm. But it was found out due to belt pre-tensioner not strong enough. Going to change it with timing belt when mileage is due.

2) I got this after adding grounding cable also. Enjoying it. Hahaha..
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post Mar 16 2018, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(blacky88 @ Mar 15 2018, 10:29 AM)
I take to COSE Proton service centre diagnose and they claim to be IAFM module faulty.
New 1 change will cost rm 7xx  sweat.gif

I googled around it seems there is 3 common sound from our Campro IAFM

1. IAFM famous 'tak tak tak' (Mine doesn't sound like this and is not so loud.)
2. Hydraulic valve lifter (Tappet) / Shim Lifter sound
3. Canister purge valve

I guess mine probably will be 2nd or 3rd?  hmm.gif
Will have to take go Zordaq check this weekend.
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Saw on certain website that Zordaq has been promoting the use of IRIZ iafm as PE iafm replacement. And Iriz iafm only got single channel runner, thus you're likely going to sacrifice low rpm torque for reliability, if using iriz iafm.
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post Mar 16 2018, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(diversity @ Mar 16 2018, 12:25 PM)
hi guys,

when changing timing belt, what do SC recommend changing together? water pump, fan belt, belt tensioner and what else?

now noticed that my alternator battery charging voltage (usb charger function) goes low when I on everything (aircond, dash cam, lights radio etc). Battery guy asked me to change the belts.
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Water pump at alternate timing belt changes. Apart from that some sc will say belt tensioner no need change but from my experience that will spoil not long after timing belt due.. If got money better change lo..

Alternator part I cannot be sure. Sounds like alternator failing.
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post Mar 16 2018, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(diversity @ Mar 16 2018, 03:24 PM)
thanks

what about aircond v belt? do you recommend changing with timing belt + belt tensioner together?
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I change air cond serpentine belt and the ac belt tensioner together with timing belt as well. But my friend doesn't. He only change when there's screeching sound from air cond belt. Hahaha...
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post Mar 18 2018, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(DrZan @ Mar 17 2018, 10:26 PM)
Hi friends,

I have a Persona Elegance 2010 full spec.

Just wondering, anyone know any Proton Persona electronics repair expert?

Some minor annoying issues, all happen together (short circuit suspected, all connected)

1. Main cluster no longer dims when headlights are on (too bright at night).
2. No more beep warning when headlights on, keys out.
3. Switch for front fog lamp not working, but hazard lights & demister still working.
4. Gear panel & aircon no more lights when headlights are on.

Another question: Does Proton service center repair electronics on older cars like mine?

Appreciate any input, thanks!
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Electrical issue is one of the thing that most of the workshop not keen to attend because diagnosing it requires a lot of time, and sometimes the fault could be as simple as loosen connector. Not financially rewarding actually.

If you can get one workshop doing that for you, cherish it. If cannot, SC is always the best place to go. Downside is they might need you to leave your car there for weeks to check. And they might according to protocol had to remove non original wiring for troubleshooting. Pros is of there's nothing to replace, they don't charge you anything, probably except OBD diagnosing fee, which is peanut compared to the work technician put into your car.

Sometimes I wonder should I service my car in sc just to make my conscience feel better. They used to fix my knock sensor engine light issue for me without any charges. Because the problem disappear after they disconnect and connect back every wiring point from ECU to knocking sensor.
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post Mar 18 2018, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(DrZan @ Mar 18 2018, 04:54 AM)
So SC does tend to older cars? What about accessories shop though, do they have expertise to fix problems like these?

Weeks you say, I dont think I can give up my car that long X_X
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No harm to ask around actually. Persona is not new car. Straight forward problem usually won't be hard to solve.
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post Mar 22 2018, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(blacky88 @ Mar 22 2018, 04:28 PM)
Hmmm I just change to new belt tensioner too when changing timing belt.

Is your grounding cable connected to alternator too?
Zordaq identified the "rrrrrrrrr" sound is from my alternator.
I see. Luckily they mention is not IAFM problem yet. Still can use somemore.
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Yes mine is connected to alternator! Have you taken the GC off after that?
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post Mar 23 2018, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(blacky88 @ Mar 22 2018, 05:17 PM)
Ah I see. Same as mine then.
Planning to find my seller this weekend or next week, to change the GC to another place.
That day when we test after I remove the GC from the alternator, the sound disappeared.
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I'm not sure would keeping the gc on alternator would damage it. Do please keep me updated. Worst case I'll remove my gc.
Thanks...
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post Apr 18 2018, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(Foxngn @ Apr 18 2018, 04:52 PM)
hi guys, recently my persona had a leak on the oil pan. I went through workshop they found a crack underneath of the oil pan. Now that part is been glued.

Would like to know can this oil pan be welded? If not, what would be a reasonable price for an oil pan replacement? I ask 2 workshop, 1 quote me for almost 1k while another quote me less than RM500 included labor.
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Proton Edar quote me RM600 for it. Persona Elegance model. Oil sump might differ from yours if you're driving Persona model before elegance.

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