The one who made them? Abit lost on this..

How is the brightness level now? Still same as 3yrs ago?

lol..u got me there on the brightness after 3yrs..

Thanks for the info..i never knew there's such light.i mean the BK-Y300..looks like it's very versatile with 2 cells + able to clip on with rotation. I actually went out and bougt the nite-ize holster where u can rotate it while it's clipped on your belt. Good eye opener on this. Now i am tempted...again. lol

The Sting is a dagger bro..i think cops view dagger and knife differently. So better careful with that.

And yes, i agree with you on the pepper spray..it's basically being sold EVERYWHERE...if we cant carry them, then they should have prevented those big brand shops from selling.. Harvey Norman, Ace Hardware, Aeon, Guardian...to name a few. But i remember few wks back, some top cop asked the rakyat to get a stick or something to defend ourself...or is it a FB sharing when a lady called the cop for help..forgot which. Hahaa...

That's very low profile indeed. Unless someone has it or has seen one, probably most would think it as a card-sized money clip. Good concealment

i think if u want and EDC light, u should consider the size.. I heard Olight jst came out with the smallest CR123 light...looks like the S10R Baton but shorter by 2-3cm.. it's called the S1 or S1R..forgot which. But if you have big hands, u mind find it awkward holding, hahaa...it's indeed very small with max lumen of 500. Another pocket rocket.

Usually for practical outdoor use, u need to have at least 80~120 lumen..like u know when even with street light, there might be some corners or bushes blocked by direct light....80~120lumen will light up that area a little..anything lower and it might be very dim. Best if you can have anything range from 5 ~ 500, which i would suggest the Olight S10-R Baton, hehee..the one i am EDCing now. Very small..measure 7cm long only. Clipped in front pocket, didnt know it's there while walking...squatting down sometimes need some adjustment..apart from that, it's oerfect. And it takes recharges..instead of CR123 which costs around RM10~Rm12 a pc....

On pepper spray, get those reputable ones...they will have description like how many shot is expected and how long it will be able to discharge if you're to press down continously. On top of that, it will explain the distance, spray type (line or cone) and expiry date. Cheap one usually wont have this info..and the key chain ring is suppose to be located at the bottom...those located on top are usually cheapo types. The ring at the bottom is to act to strengthen ur grip by looping through your pinky finger. Ring on top sometimes might get in the way of the trigger...stuck when you're pressing the trigger. Go mace.com and read their description..u will get a rough idea of how good reliable pepper spray suppose to be. And also, cheap ones only tell u the date of manufacture...better quality type tells u that as well as it's expiry.

And if i may add on light, usually they come in either Cool Tint or Neutral Tint...as well as flood or throw.

Cool Tint - white in color
Neutral Tint - a little orange/amber like old school incandescent light

Flood - practical for indoor when you need more area to be lit especially in room. Usually this means the reflector is an Orange Peel (rough surface)
Throw - practical for outdoor..but if you have room for only 1, get this..since watever flood can do, throw can as well..but not the other way round. If in room/indoor when you want flood, point towards ceiling...unless ur in warehouse, then well..too bad lol

Again, consider Olight's S10R bro for EDC...definitely will make u wanna go out every night and jst shine at something far.. lol

I never own a victorinox..but my brother does.
I compare my wingman's scissor with my brother's victorinox..and..............................the vixtorinox scissor felt better. It's more gentle on the thumb and cuts smoother....

so if scissor is gonna be used often, dont get the Wingman multitool....try out others instead unless u wanna get a victorinox.....

mang u put it to use d? how it fares? can share some review?

i read a few review and seems like there are few issues, eventhough it's pretty cool and handy to have a small blade hidden..

Issues i read..pls share ur experience :
1) the button block u from withdrawing the blade if u put too many cards like 3 and few notes. need to remove the card/bill before can draw
2) the button (blade grip) scratches easily
3) the blade has poor edge retention...and even without using, will be blunt coz when u insert/draw, it will grind against it's own sheath

This post has been edited by Armata: Dec 23 2015, 04:58 PM

Looks good.. can be stashed together with keys. most ppl wouldnt notice thinking it's jst another key.. good concealment... and looks handy as well.

Thanks for the detailed sharing mang.

The 3 cards + few notes is a turn off liao…I mean we have to take out at least 3 cards already; 1 MYkad + 2 driving license albeit these 2 are jst laminated ones.
Then definitely need Credit Card for emergency..so left with very little space.

But for a minimalist, I guess it’s pretty good.

Again, thanks for the info…decided not to bite Thomas Tool’s discount coupon in getting this….

Added : the blade..have u try sharpen it and see how many times u draw/insert for the blade to grind it’s own sheath and become dull?

aiseh..ur link was blocked by my office due to weapons category..sweat.

anyhow, good to know ur getting another knife into your collection...and yup, buck nobleman looks very gentleman indeed. sleek and nice finish.

But ever consider getting a H1 knife from spyderco? i have decided to get one in my next purchase...since i seldom have time to oil my knife, it's only a matter of time before they rust..at the minimum, the screws will rust a little.

So plan to get 1 H1 series blade and stop getting new one after that...some says they cant retain sharpness, but at the price of rust and maintenance free, looks like a reasonable exchange for me. 1 knife that's gonna be there permanently..



And if you're planing to get a sharpening device/tool, consider Lansky's 4-rod turn box..cheap and easy to use.

I got the Lansky's Professional System...but need to screw individual stones when want to use and repack them after use so quite a long process.

thomas tool didnt bring in spyderco..

but i know OGM does..in fact i think last week they jst shared some new arrival, included spyderco, in their FB.
Add them and inquire from there..should be around RM350 for the H1 salt series..

Enjoice ur browse bro..

OGM = outdoor gear malaysia

This post has been edited by Armata: Dec 28 2015, 02:27 PM

Aye. I think last month i saw this brand..seems like widely available now. And it's usually below RM100. So far i havent google for more info apart from it's from china.

Try chcking out those US forums, usually they will give indept review like steel type, hardness, edge retention and finishing...

but i guess if it's seldom heard of, then chances are it might not be as good....kinda like u pay what u get.

But if it's ur usual EDC, not those forest dweller or camping purpose, then why not? Can give it a try..then share ur review here as well. i am curious to find out too..

Wah..that's one nice collection u got there on Victorinox! I guess u get most of those victorinox coz u love having them..rather than getting 1 that suits all occasion. Hehee...dont worry, i am guilty of such thing as well

On the Bantam, it comes only with knife and those screwdriver, tweezer and can opener right? And the Ranger doesnt come with a Plier? I find plier to be very very useful..

For the swiss card, how thick is it? 2 credit card thickness? Wonder how it feels to be slipped into a wallet?

And nice Fenix light! I have like 8 Fenix lights...but right now i only EDC Olight Baton due to it's small size, ease of recharge and 550 lumen on a RCR123

Lol..yupp, ur more than qualified to be EDC hoarder..

Sometimes I also try getting multiple same gears to put them into different bags. But those are limited to cheap gears like RM1 cricket lighter, permanent marker, G-lock carabiners and some clip ties. Coz like u, sometimes I also afraid I might forgot to put them into the bag I will be carrying on that particular day. And after thinking for couple weeks, I have concluded in order to keep my expenses down, and at the same time ensure I have everything I need in diff bag, I opted to get this :



Something like Maxpedition micro pocket organizer..but as it is expensive, I get a brandless type…still costs close to RM60 tho..

So jst stuff everything into that pouch/pocket organizer, then whenever I change back, jst pull up the pouch and xfer to the nxt bag. That way I have everything inside… So you can consider that as well, since u carry hand bag, I assume ur a lady and as such, definitely have more than 1 handbag lol

I have the leatherman style CS..hold a tiny blade like your Classic SD I think, but pretty sharp as well..so yup, those definitely comes in handy at the least expected moment..

Ever consider getting a plier type multitool?
If u want cheap and reasonable, try Leatherman Wingman or Sidekick..sidekick comes with the saw as well. And like they say in EDC community, 3 is 2, 2 is 1 and 1 is none. And we always need a backup fr our backup tools…

I take it u prefer triple A light since it’s slim, small and easily available in term of batteries. I seldom go for Triple A due to it’s short amount of time, the only triple A light I have is Fenix HL10..figured I would need a flood…but end up purchase a Fenix HP25 headlamp for flood pulak.. lol
For EDC purpose, I always stick to either single AA or Single RCR123 on body…sometimes both as a backup to each other lol. In my bag always goes the bigger 18650 light with loads of spare cells.

If you plan to try out RCR123, Olight’s S10R baton is highly recommended…but make sure u get the latest version coz older one don’t have quick charge USB platform…or if u want even smaller pocket rocket, Olight S1R…smaller than S10R by around 5mm or so.. u will be amazed if u manage to get ur hands on one…


Oh btw, jst something to share…not anything significant, but I was waiting for my wife the other day and there’s a Guardian pharmacy nearby…spent around 40mins browsing while waiting..then chance upon alcohol swap. It’s a pack of 10pcs, individually packed…at around RM1.20 or so…very convenient so grab 20pcs and split them into different bags/pouches of mine. Never know when might come handy..

This one?


Loooks solid and meet my criteria of having the 3 essentials : Plier, Scissor and Blade

Good haul mate! Not to mention it's so tiny like the size of Leatherman Style..so gonna be convenient to clip it together with car.house keys.. Good choice!

Ahh..didnt know ur in Sabah...which i guess tools like this are a lot more useful to you folks than ever..

Minichamp seems to have everything, kekee...except plier
And pretty small in size compared to most of leatherman's multitool.

Aye aye...smaller than tool bag means pretty dang small d ur handbag. Tho mind i ask if you're a girl? Seldom have girls into such stuffs..

Oooh....using alcohol swap in PC Maintenance...but why's that? Can share?

nice..all those are pretty small and wont make ur pocket feel uncomfy..btw, what's the whistle like? got any picture to share?

U can try OGM for the maxpedition.

Got my pepper spray from a lowyat here few yrs ago..but heard he no longer sell. I saw some shops like Harvey Norman and Ace Hardware selling. Not sure if they are good, but they arent cheap...roughly 2.5 times the price i bought... Still, best to google the brand before buying..else imaging when u thought u can temporary disable a parang wielding maniac..only turn out it's mineral solution you're spraying.

my advice, after google and u decided to buy...try a short burst to understand it's features; spray pattern whether cone/jet, distance and dip a bit with ur finger and smear them on ur cheek and beneath ur eyes to understand the effect. If it aint hurting u, then it aint gonna hurt parang-wielding maniac.. and oh, make sure it's short burst..most small sized pepper spray can last 6-8 small burst only..eventho some might indicate 20...but when ur in panic mode, ur probably gonna have heavy-trigger finger and the burst wont be as short as during practise under calm situation.

Wow..ur EDC, all of them are so small..i bet u hardly remember it's attached with ur keyrings. Good stuffs bro!

Each their own i guess...so long u felt it works for you then i guess it's a good enough method.

Me, i like to know how much pain i will be inflicting..

Last time i bought once from Guardian as well. But no registration's needed. But nowadays i couldnt see them anymore. I guess it was removed.

And i have tired some XX brand too...sprayed on palm...then take a sniff..nothing, then proceed to dab my cheek..nothing..then try it on my eyelid...some minor tingle...and i know it's crap liao.

But u might want to consider getting new one since u been spraying them as test whether it works. Usually cant last too many spray..