Hey guys, could somebody explain to me what's the difference between director fee and normal salary ?
Director fee & salary, What's the difference ?
Director fee & salary, What's the difference ?
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Nov 23 2015, 05:38 PM, updated 11y ago
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Hey guys, could somebody explain to me what's the difference between director fee and normal salary ?
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Nov 23 2015, 05:45 PM
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As far as I know, fee is a periodical payment (maybe once a year), whereas salary is a monthly payment.
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Nov 23 2015, 08:28 PM
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Nov 23 2015, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(lazybump_nonsense @ Nov 23 2015, 05:38 PM) Hey guys, could somebody explain to me what's the difference between director fee and normal salary ? 1) paid for being a director 2) paid for coming to work everyday There are two types of directors - exec and non-exec. One comes to work everyday like an employee. The other do not. Non-exec directors only attend board meetings. HOWEVER, for the financial accounts, all salaries paid to all directors are reclassified as directors fees. I am not an accountant. Don't know if this is a IRB or MIA rule. But our auditors do this every year. |
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Nov 24 2015, 08:13 AM
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I stopped paying myself director fees years ago. Now I just pay myself a declared dividend - legitimately tax exempted.
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Nov 24 2015, 08:36 AM
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there's a lot of way a company define it but in general ;
salary - monthly fix payment include allowances fee - adhoc payment base on certain criteria i.e hit target then get % , year end hit target get xxx amount , success in contract then get xxx amount ; so all kind of possibility for senior management to work towards a goal and not makan gaji only for shareholders |
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Nov 24 2015, 02:59 PM
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if let say i am a not working director, can i get a director fee too? or how to determine how much is my director fee?
Thanks for the help guys ! |
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Nov 24 2015, 11:40 PM
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Nov 25 2015, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(lazybump_nonsense @ Nov 24 2015, 03:59 PM) if let say i am a not working director, can i get a director fee too? or how to determine how much is my director fee? Usually u will be paid director fee every AGM meeting if the board have resolutely agree the allowance package...Thanks for the help guys ! For normal meeting or monthly there shouldnt be any fee... As a committe of my condo joint management body im being paid those fee every agm meeting... Very small amount thou and i didnt even take it... I just ask them to minus the maintenance fee they charge under my unit... |
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Nov 25 2015, 03:02 AM
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QUOTE(lazybump_nonsense @ Nov 24 2015, 02:59 PM) if let say i am a not working director, can i get a director fee too? or how to determine how much is my director fee? You will get the fees based on the nett profit yearly. Thanks for the help guys ! Based on your statement, I assume you are only shareholder not director. There will be no fees nor salary to be paid to silent shareholder unless it's only yearly profit. You only eligible to take the nett profit based on the % or aka fees aka whatsoever terms. |
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Nov 25 2015, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(jiashun001 @ Nov 25 2015, 03:02 AM) You will get the fees based on the nett profit yearly. FYI: director fees are not paid from nett profit. Director fees are usually declares during the company's AGM by the board. It can be any amount or nil as long as the board agreed it is a reasonable amount. Based on your statement, I assume you are only shareholder not director. There will be no fees nor salary to be paid to silent shareholder unless it's only yearly profit. You only eligible to take the nett profit based on the % or aka fees aka whatsoever terms. Also, legally, nett profit is the company's profit and money...and it should not be taken by anyone. When a company makes profit and also paid tax, the profit after tax is then transfered to retained profit. Should the shareholders wants to get money from their investment, they can declare dividend from the retained profit accoubt to the shareholders. |
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Nov 25 2015, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(lazybump_nonsense @ Nov 23 2015, 05:38 PM) Hey guys, could somebody explain to me what's the difference between director fee and normal salary ? Director fees are usually paid and determined during the company's AGM (legally this should be the way, however many company doesn't aware of it and still draw director fee on a monthly basis to avoid paying EPF and SOCSO) . the amount usually is determined by the board. Director salary is similar to salary paid to staff which it is subject to EPF, SOCSO, PCB... In other words, a director may entire to both salary and director fee in the same year ... As long as it is approved by the board |
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Nov 25 2015, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(lazybump_nonsense @ Nov 24 2015, 02:59 PM) if let say i am a not working director, can i get a director fee too? or how to determine how much is my director fee? Director fee can be paid to any director of the company regardless they are executive or non-exexutive of the company.Thanks for the help guys ! The amount is to be determined by the board... No basis to determine the amount.. |
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Nov 25 2015, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(zeb kew @ Nov 23 2015, 09:57 PM) 1) paid for being a director It should be classified as Directors' fees and remunerations ..2) paid for coming to work everyday There are two types of directors - exec and non-exec. One comes to work everyday like an employee. The other do not. Non-exec directors only attend board meetings. HOWEVER, for the financial accounts, all salaries paid to all directors are reclassified as directors fees. I am not an accountant. Don't know if this is a IRB or MIA rule. But our auditors do this every year. |
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Nov 25 2015, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(toiletroll @ Nov 25 2015, 03:13 PM) FYI: director fees are not paid from nett profit. Director fees are usually declares during the company's AGM by the board. It can be any amount or nil as long as the board agreed it is a reasonable amount. ^^^ this Also, legally, nett profit is the company's profit and money...and it should not be taken by anyone. When a company makes profit and also paid tax, the profit after tax is then transfered to retained profit. Should the shareholders wants to get money from their investment, they can declare dividend from the retained profit accoubt to the shareholders. |
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Nov 26 2015, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(toiletroll @ Nov 25 2015, 03:25 PM) Director fee can be paid to any director of the company regardless they are executive or non-exexutive of the company. so any amount will do? As long as everyone in the board agree that fee. right? The amount is to be determined by the board... No basis to determine the amount.. Thanks for all the help man |
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Nov 26 2015, 08:02 PM
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Nov 27 2015, 03:28 PM
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Salary for full time / executive director
Fee for non executive or independent directors |
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Nov 27 2015, 03:29 PM
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Fee - exec or non-exec will get
salary - only exec |
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Dec 1 2015, 01:36 AM
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Great info. Thanks guys
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Dec 3 2015, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(horror2015 @ Nov 28 2015, 11:51 AM) Now this is correct. People cannot differentiate between dividend and directors fees. Lemme explain further from viewpoint of SME and PLC. very great info ... SME:- Directors are paid directors fees when the company declares it during agm. Yes it doesn't has anythg to do with company's net profits. Directors fees are more affected by company's chargeable income. For simplicity purpose, directors' fee are legally used to reduce the chargeable income because a director is only taxed on the fees upon payment by the company. As such, legally, SMEs announces directors fees once they know their chargeable income is too high. In truth this is also a legal way to delay tax payments since directors fee can be paid out slowly for a few years. As long as there is payment made to directors, IRB cannot rule that you are evading taxes. Just payment is slow because of bad cash flow. Some ppl pays themselves dividend instead of directors' fees because SME has the same persons as shareholders and directors. However dividends are different from directors fees because dividends are affected by a company's profits. You cannot declare dividend payout UNLESS you have profits to be distributed to shareholders. PLC:- In a listed company, yes INEDS are not paid salaries, only directors fees. Different from SME, it's harder to pass a resolution for directors fees since it has to be discussed in AGM where AC will always scrutinize the directors fees (theoretically). However a shareholder will only be paid dividend and not directors fees, UNLESS the director is also a shareholder (usually very little %). Conclusion Dividend manner is always the same. SME or listed, must see net profit. Directors fees are usually due to tax implications. |
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Dec 3 2015, 01:48 PM
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my company's director fee + salary already xxx,xxx
whats the criteria eh? even son of one of the menteri already BOD in a few companies freshly after graduate |
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