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Investment LAKEVILLE RESIDENCE | SERI WAHYU (Ver 2) [OT], Live Life Differently In New Kepong

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honesty tan
post Mar 26 2017, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Wan Tiin @ Mar 25 2017, 10:24 AM)
Thank you , honesty Tan.

That day when we pay rm3k booking fees, we issue the cheque which attention to lawyer firm, i.e. Halim Hong and Quek (Advocates & Solicitors).  (Our agent told us to do so)

Is it normal / correct to issue the cheque to lawyer firm?

Anyone know?
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Dear Wan Tiin,

Yes that's usual for panel lawyer to hold the sum, as custody, till the requirements and T&C gets fulfilled or revoked.

You'll get the refund as long either party losing the interests, before SNP is signed.

However, the common practice is - you'll not get back the 10% after SPA is signed (unless specified elsewhere).

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post Mar 26 2017, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Mar 26 2017, 07:24 PM)
Hi Mr.Tan

i got an agent asking for the RM3,000 booking fee via cheque to Enchanting Heights Sdn Bhd

it that legitimate?
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hi orangegamer,

Enchanting heights sdn bhd is a subsidiary fully owned by mah sing. the risks should be low as there could still ways to sort/recognize it internally.

however i just hope that the agent does not mess up / confuse things and presumed that is the right payee.

i suggest you to double check with the 2-page Offer Letter which contains the instructed payment details. i saw those who submitted would have that letter, so if you don't have visibility about what's talking here on the Offer Letter, it is your right to chase it down from the Agent.

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post Mar 26 2017, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Mar 26 2017, 10:41 PM)
Hi guys, I got approach by SA to sell lakeville to me...

Price now 787,800 for 977sqft block D facing lake,rebate is 8.7306% which equavilent to 68,780 and buyer need to put 10k so total 78,780 (10%).

Promotion until this 31March is additional 2% on the balance 90% which is 709,020 - 2% = 694,839.60 final price until this Friday.

Come to about 711.19 psqft.. is it still worth it to buy as an investment ? Rough installement was 3.5k as per SA but I doubt jln ipoh can fetch more than 2k rental for a 3bedroom condo..

Any suggestion if it's a good move? Is the capital appreciation going to be good in the next 5 years ?
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Let's do a simple decision map to lists 3 top buying factors and 3 top not buying factors, on a paper.

Then ask yourself by counterbalancing effect of each another. And analyze if you can accept the final factor(s), which you found it hard to eliminate / ascertain.

And to answer your question and assumed that you are just buying for investment :

-> with 1900 units and 3.5k installment per month, knowing the unit only comes with 3-bedroom, + another RM 330 on maintenance fees = i think you already know about the answer.

Plse do not forget there will be another 660 unit x 3 rooms just at doorstep to compete against your investments.
It looks like Seri Wahyu can be better investments for now.

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post Mar 26 2017, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(djvixx @ Mar 26 2017, 11:19 PM)
Still similar package offered in 2015. Lol.
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If similar package for similar product, it tells stg if the price does not progress.

Anyhow the nett price is always much higher than dev's price floor.

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post Mar 27 2017, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Mar 26 2017, 11:41 PM)
noted.. thanks..

i know that rumahwip property cannot sell or rent out in 10 years time.

what if I choose to rent out anyway ? do they check ? would there be punishment if caught ?
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The best you could do is rent it to close friend / relatives.

The least you should do is renting without stamping the rent agreement.

The basic of your guilt is similar to the act if you have traffic violations, but at different penalty levels / amounts.

p/s: there is a reason why this rule is not stated in SPA. try think more about it.

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post Mar 27 2017, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Mar 27 2017, 12:33 AM)
Seri wahyu is the RumahWIP right? Cannot rent and only can sell 10 years later... how to buy for investment so...
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If you manage to calculate the NPV+IRR of holding a 300k rumahwip for 7 years (3 years is settled through construction period) whilst there is no hard rules on "cannot rent", versus 700k+ that you would commit for lakeville, the ROI definitely is higher on rumahwip lor. The longer you hold, the larger is the ROI %.
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post Mar 27 2017, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Mar 27 2017, 12:17 PM)
thanks for the info...
what if myself stay there.. but other 2 rooms rent to my friends without official agreement ?
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Not a fatal problem I would say.


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post Mar 27 2017, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Mar 27 2017, 12:23 PM)
from what i get from askar perang, they'll rampas the unit. can they do that? even if the loan payment is 50% done.
http://www.hmetro.com.my/node/215886

I'm thinking in future to rent 2 rooms out without agreement signing. what are the worst problem that could happen?
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Bro you already bought the wip?

Haha perhaps after VP then PM me, I tell you how to do it.

Lol anyway buying properties is a forward looking exercise and long-term investments, do prepare the worst scenario, even you need to pay full on the installments, for at least 7 years.

Hedge first before commit.

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post Mar 27 2017, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Mar 27 2017, 02:43 PM)
I haven't bought yet.. just summited documents needed waiting for balloting..

what do you mean by VP?

yea.. i understood of the long term commitment needed and risk involved..

from now it's all saving as much as I can.. cutting down on expenses as much possible for me..
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Vp = vacant possession, carry the same meaning as OC - means key collection / handover.

Yes you are on the right track to spend and save wisely.
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post Mar 27 2017, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Mar 27 2017, 04:11 PM)
Sorry what is NPV and IRR ?

I'm wondering if the RumaWIP will increase in value ? assuming if all tenants do their due diligence in paying the maintenance fees but as many cheap condo / apartment, those tenant are always type that kiasu and always default on maintenance payment..

I worry 10 years later the condo doesn't come with any value increase because it was poorly run-down like those apartment in JinJang Selatan.. car park area flooded with deep hole everywhere and sometime tire stuck in the mud almost cant reverse.. I experience it as my relative staying there..

How many RumaWIP can one buy ? if buy not stay let it empty is it violate the law also ? if cant rent out but around 1.5k installment per month, i consider as like saving into bank like that lol.. just worried must stay in only..
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Sorry bro I keep it brief as I type from mobile, hehe.
Npv stands for net present value, IRR is internal rate of return by factoring your costs of capital / outlay which includes yr legal fees etc, from initial and to be projected over years. Both these work together to see if your opportunity brings in positive values in target investments period.

Let's say the upside for this rumah WIP thing is estimated to be below 450k+, for 800 sqft BU as it is categorized under Apartment. The strategy is either sell it after 10 yrs or continue to reap the rental yield. Holding it long enough will have rather stagnant price as buyers will have difficulties in financing for leasehold that left with 55 years or so.. or ppl even start to complain for 94 minus 10 years = 84 years (best case)..

For your questions, One household can only buy ONE WIP in their whole life. Leaving it empty will not violate the agreement with DBKL. And knowing your strategy is to buy for rent, or buy to sell is very important. If you predicted this thing only brings in return value of about 100k after 10 years, you can also save that 100k for e.g. 2 years, to invest / buy other things - hence, that served your opportunity costs / decision whether you wanna commit or not, for now.

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post Mar 31 2017, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(blackrs @ Mar 29 2017, 09:09 PM)
Anyone know the exact price PSF for Seri wahyu monthly maintenance cost?
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Price psf = 300k/800 sq ft.

Maintenance = ~RM 0.25 psf x (800+total car parks sqft) = ~RM 230

Monthly commitments easily ~ RM 1500+ , for 30+ years loan, 90% margin.

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post Apr 1 2017, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Apr 1 2017, 01:54 PM)
it think is 0.26 excluding sinking fee
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So high even with 6xx units?

Means it's closed to RM 230 as estimated earlier.

Guys please also note the new Strara rule will include car parks sq ft as part of your maintenance fees.

One typical car park is around 100-120 sq ft.

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post Apr 2 2017, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(hunter5489 @ Apr 2 2017, 04:27 PM)
anyone know that is it the loan agreement legal fees for RUMAWIP is pay by government? or pay by buyer?
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Pay by buyer.
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post Apr 2 2017, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Apr 2 2017, 07:29 PM)
Lol Mahsing, mahsing memang dns...
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Haha luckily they don't take your quote as their advertising tagline..

Else really LMAO!
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post Apr 27 2017, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Apr 27 2017, 08:59 AM)
hi guys,

can anyone share how much % interest rate offered for your loans? i'm in the process of applying for loans.. mostly offered around 4.45% annual interest..

would like to know if there any other better offer out there..?
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Try MBB, you should get around 4.3% for 500k and below of loan size.
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post Apr 28 2017, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(beebee @ Apr 28 2017, 02:06 PM)
since last yer Kepong is flooded with property launches.
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Many of my friends commit for The Era (by JKG Land) recently.
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post Apr 28 2017, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 28 2017, 03:45 PM)
Which area in kv is not flooded with either new launch or almost VP?
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Most KV areas were gradually flooded with new developments but kepong only started tremendously in last 1-2 years. But almost all are high rise / affordable houses.
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post Jun 4 2017, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Jun 4 2017, 11:15 PM)
i wonder when they're going to start doing their construction work
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It already started before the launch, no?
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post Jun 8 2017, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Jun 8 2017, 03:04 PM)
anyone selling extra parking lot.. i want to get an extra parking lot but my agent say all sold out..
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Not sure but can legal transfer before CF?
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post Jun 8 2017, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Jun 8 2017, 05:13 PM)
don't know.. maybe after CF?

anyway.. anyone manage to buy the extra parking space?
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I think some efforts need to get done probably special arrangement / customized legal document (they usually named "Trust Deed" between two parties) to get the car park reassigned after CF.

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