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maraippo
post Nov 22 2015, 04:03 PM

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post Nov 22 2015, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Nov 22 2015, 03:49 PM)
But which version of BM should we learn?

Even with good grades in BM, I find that in general Malaysians rarely use the BM we learned in school.

You go pasar, they use bahasa pasar, then Malay accuse you for not learning BM.

You talk with rempit, they use their own creation of BM.

You watch/read Malay articles, or Malay shows or news, and found that Malay language used by Malay themselves are mixed or copied English.

Personally Malay should take charge of standardizing BM for everyone, because as of the current trend it seems like they themselves are keep changing their language in order to sound high class.

Most other popular languages are so standardized that it's applicable to anywhere in the world.

However if I were to speak Malay that is taught in school with my Malay peers its as if I'm speaking a foreign language with them. Heck, kelate should be recognize as another country altogether.

Tldr kalo nak kaum lain ckp melayu korang kenalah tetapkan standard yg betul supaya org lain blh ikut. Kalo x jgn slhkan org lain sbb korang pon x fasih bahasa sendiri dlm menetapkan standard yg betul.
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u go to some part in uk and us also sound not like some english u learn in school lah bro.

bahasa pasar is informal bahasa melayu, spoken everywhere outside, not just in pasar.

formal bahasa melayu is use in formal events. just like when u learn other language, like korean and japanese, there are formal and informal version of communicating.

language is always evolving as time goes by. u compare kamus dewan jilid 1 with latest jilid also got many differences.

same with oxford dictionary 1st version with latest version. same goes with all other language around the world. even u talk chinese people nowadays using sia sui. its not even in mandarin dictionary.

malay language. is always standardized. as long you use the malay u learn in school, you can speak malay outside just fine.

bahasa melayu from kelate, ganu, pahang, kedah, penang etc is the localized version of the language. it is accent. u no need to learn those to communicate. just need to adopt. like texas english, irish english, uk english, aussie english canadian english. heck, even english got a lot of accent. u went to talk normal english with rednecks its as if u speak foreign language with them. tongue.gif
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post Nov 22 2015, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Nov 22 2015, 04:26 PM)
If that is the case, Malay can't accuse non Malay unable to converse in BM.

Most of us that spent 11 years in national school are able to converse in BM just fine. We just not equipped to converse in various native slangs like the native Malay do.

And by that logic, non Malay can't be accused of putting English because most of us can't speak Queen English with an Cockney accent.
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dude, nobody accuse u if u cannot speak like kelantanese, terengganu, perak, kedah and so on. u think selangor's malay can speak kelantan slang? sabah slang? U think kelatanese can speak like perak slang?

nobody gonna get angry with u if u cannot speak the slang lah. there states also the local will understand normal malay because they learn the same thing in school. just like china implementing mandarin to whole china as national language. they dont write their bahasa melayu spm paper in bahase kelate with kelate slang to get A.

nobody is going to blame u for speaking malay imperfectly. dont be like the idiot mp who cant even speak bahasa melayu in parlimen and want to cover it up by "practicing his right" to speak in english
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post Nov 22 2015, 05:11 PM

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Man, discussion quality in /k better than rwi. Kek

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