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post May 30 2016, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ May 30 2016, 05:33 PM)
It really depends on your arrangement as each Big4 also got different dept. Each dept got multiple teams. You got the death squad, dustbin team, the rojak, the average joes, … Hellish team trains your endurance while good team foster good culture. The culture is shaped based on few things such as the composition of team member, boss style, client demands, ….

But one culture is prevalent, work hard, play hard approach.
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Hahaha. Love your explanation. Mind to elaborate the types of multiple teams? I am trying to see if any of the team I'm working with fits in these categories?
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post Jun 1 2016, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(Hackmon @ Jun 1 2016, 01:15 AM)
It is possible, a guy with cpga lower than 3.0 get into one of the big4 (not to mention which one). But initially he was not being shortlisted for the interview. I heard pipu said he keep calling the HR to convince them to give him an interview opportunity. and boom! He succeed. FYI, he is very active in co-cur and accounting club, the HR in big4 and mid tier firms know him.

Pwc is hard, they have too many applicants. Aim other firms, and call them daily to kacau until they feel ur passion.  rclxms.gif
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Agreed. PwC is a club for elites. I'm still in the industry (another Big 4) and until today we think highly of those who worked there.

EY loves people with a mix of both (decent co-cu and academics).

Deloitte (decent academics with some co-cu will do).

Can't tell much about about KPMG. Have never heard any stories from them since the day I joined.

If you are applying for a firm that has a hiring manager / proper HR personnel, they'll look at your co-cu and your results. Call them to kacau them should be fine. Applies well for KL office and branches that have large number of employees.

For other branches, if you are applying for a firm that automatically redirects the CV to Manager & Partner because there is only administrative staff around, it depends. If you have a traditionalist partner, he/she will take academic results during uni or professional papers as his/her main criteria and co-cu being last (same applies to when assessing experienced hires).


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post Jun 1 2016, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ May 31 2016, 05:56 PM)
Not sure all firms are the same but you will have the (most teams are criss-crossed):
1) Super / Large team – Teams that employed the most staff members. Everyone talks about them, so most will try to join this team to get exposure before they leave the firm. Audit should be very voluminous but clean (large materiality). Culture should be ok as most can take long leave after deadline.
2) Small team – Deals with small or mid-size companies. Rarely have such teams unless they are 1st or 2nd year managers. Very little resources and manager either do most of the work and/or rely heavily on whoever they have. Culture depends on your luck depending on your client (smaller materiality)
3) Foreign team – Deals with MNCs or branch of MNCs (think companies like Facebook). Very big materiality, tight deadline but should be clean audit as it’s mainly a group reporting. Tight deadline due to consol deadline. Culture also depends on your luck.
4) GLC team – Really not comfortable to share, you will know when you go in
5) Chinaman team – Not the company’s nationality but the culture of the corporation. As most are conglomerate or diversified, most people dun like but you will learn a lot. Culture …
6) Dream team – An ironic term, these are the “special” staffs place. Imagine companies that are high risk, backlogs, foreign subs, … Culture …
7) Death squad – Basically the firm will make your life so miserable for you until you resign.
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Mine's a mix of small team with a hint of chinaman team (a bit tight on the budget) and moving towards death squad. Learnt a lot but my future being there sounds bleak... dry.gif

What about the dustbin team, the rojak, the average joes?
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post Jun 2 2016, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 1 2016, 10:18 AM)
Emm their culture is give and take, too polarised to form a view. Dustbin similar to dream team. Rojak and average joes are the big majority so their culture is typical (barring any labour turnover) If you hail from a small team try to get into a big team around your 3rd year or so (most will do that). If you are from a big team, most will ship you out to try individual portfolios.

Eventually the trend now, most will leave and join Singapore / Australia Big4 after they get their title if they love audit but hate the pay and/or the team here. If you like audit but hate the working hours, most will try to switch to advisory (except the technical ones). If you want to get out from the firm, most will try accounting or internal audit that can match the salary demands but not the glamour and career development. Those that wants to leave audit outright to further career development in new field such as CF, IB, consulting, .. will most likely end up with lower salary (if they get the job) but hope to get higher in subsequent years.
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Thanks for your advice. You have partly read my mind (about the trend) smile.gif . At this current job market, do you think a semi senior in audit from a M'sia Big4 would stand a chance joining Singapore / Australia Big4? Was that a bit too ambitious? I am now entering my 3rd year and as you can see, my current firm (branch) does not have a big team.

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post Jun 3 2016, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(toffeeman @ Jun 3 2016, 07:59 PM)
Why PwC elite? Is it becos hard to get in or based on your experience as to the people you have met? I think elitism is a overrated word.
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Mainly the latter. Those I have met are either coming from reputable universities or ACCA graduates with excellent results. A few of them that joined us here seemed to pick up things real fast and their work done are better than most of us here.

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post Jun 4 2016, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Jun 4 2016, 12:06 AM)
Which are the reputable universities are you referring to base on your knowledge ? Thanks.
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LSE, University of Melbourne, and a University of Western Australia graduate with a short-term study abroad (summer sessions) at Harvard University.


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post Jun 4 2016, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Jun 4 2016, 08:01 AM)
Do other universities besides the above stand a chance to join ? Thanks.
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Am sure they do. All are welcomed to apply. I don't think they are that nasty to exclude just because they don't come from reputable universities, but I guess the candidate pool has lots of interesting applicants.

Maybe do something that somewhat stands out (e.g. Semi Finalist of some case study competition, dean's list, top 10 scorer of a subject in uni, uni representative for team sports). Alternatively, bring in the right attitude that fits with the firm's values, that's how the ACCA grads stood out.

Again that was based on what I have gotten from my alumni and ex-colleagues of PwC. Everyone's experience may differ.
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post Jan 18 2018, 08:54 PM

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If any of you are interested in joining Deloitte Audit division (Kuching or Kota Kinabalu office), do drop me a PM as applications are opened for fresh grads as well as experienced hires. Attributes that we are looking for are mainly strong commitment towards work as well as willingness to travel. I am now a Deloitte Alumni due to pursuing my career overseas. Therefore, might be able to assist in forwarding your applications but there's no guarantee on the outcome ya. Cheers.
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post Jan 24 2018, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(KeithYen @ Jan 21 2018, 11:47 PM)
Thats very kind of you! But Im looking to apply for the Kuala Lumpur office.
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Haha in that case am unable to help you then (a lot of applicants for KL office). All the best in your application though, you'll learn a lot once you made it 👍🏻👍🏻.
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post Jan 31 2018, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(junggle @ Jan 22 2018, 10:43 PM)
Starting working at one of the big4 in a small city next week as second year audit associate after working in a small firm for over 3 years. What should I expect? I‘m kinda panic right now lol
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Lol try to get used with their audit methodology and platform (audit software). Keep seeking guidance from seniors or managers if possible.

You'll be fine. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 11 2018, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(junggle @ Feb 6 2018, 07:10 PM)
10 days in my job. felt like a junior starting learning from scratch. lol. the amount of documentation makes my head hurts. Well, at least colleagues are nice despite being busy AF. tbh i dont see myself working in there for long. 😢
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Give yourself a short-term goal to meet e.g. pass your probation. Currently at another firm and I give myself 3-6 months maximum to ask around and familiarise with their approach. This is the 'forgiving stage' that you could make use to learn and make mistakes.

For the time being, I'll be working damn hard during this forgiving stage. You'll feel a lot more doable once you get the hang of it.
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post Apr 14 2018, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(eddydo @ Apr 14 2018, 04:00 AM)
Spoke to a partner in a career fair and handed my CV, few days later got a call from HR scheduling for a skype interview, next day got drilled by 2 partners (1 SG & 1 MY), few days later I was asked to fill in the application form and all required academic documents, and now my application is waiting to be processed by country managing director.

srs question is this recruiting process normal? (not offered a job yet)
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Lol what kind of position are you applying for?
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post Apr 15 2018, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(eddydo @ Apr 14 2018, 06:02 PM)
Financial advisory associate lmao
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Oh no wonder they drill you ahahaha. I doubt the intake is big since this division is pretty niche so it can be quite competitive. If you don't mind me asking, was it from the one that is based near TTDI? PM me if you're not comfortable answering here.
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post Apr 16 2018, 06:25 AM

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QUOTE(eddydo @ Apr 15 2018, 11:48 PM)
had to pull out Google for this haha yes

just heard from my friend he went through the standard way, application form first, phone screen, test, hr etc

niche I'm not sure but definitely competitive!
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🤣 Is your friend applying the same position as yours? I think you could be one of those students currently at overseas and bump into them during the career fair...
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post Apr 16 2018, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(eddydo @ Apr 16 2018, 03:05 PM)
both of us study overseas. yeah same position, but he applied before the career fair so he did his final interview during the career fair, I applied during the career fair.
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Ahahaha. Yeah in a way you bypassed those early stages because you submitted your CV directly to the Partner during the career fair. I am not sure if the career fair you're referring is not held in Malaysia. If so, that means one of the Partners at the career fair could be their Country Managing Partner. Depends who you were talking to that day but I would say this way of applying sounds normal if you were to pass your CV directly to the Partner.

Your friend would have the normal application process as I think he submits his application online. Each to its own.
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post Apr 16 2018, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(eddydo @ Apr 16 2018, 04:58 PM)
It's was in UK. yes the country managing partner was there too but I didn't speak to him sweat.gif If i knew he was going to be processing the final hiring I would have threw myself all over him lmao

I didn't skip much tho haha, was still required to do the assessments

there is the country managing director, a partner in financial advisory and a director from deloitte consultant if i remembered correctly.
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Now it makes a lot more sense. Lol, you'll eventually get to bump with him if you're are onboard.

Since they took the effort to fly all the way UK to look for Malaysians graduating from UK universities, your chances are pretty high I reckon (depending how many others aced such interviews).

Sounds positive so far with all that processing, good luck. thumbsup.gif
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post May 1 2019, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Bleacher1024 @ Apr 28 2019, 03:36 AM)
Hey guys, need your advice if possible. I've received 2 offers (EY & PwC) and I'll be starting on Oct. Since I haven't make up my mind, I have accepted both offers because there is an expiration date for the offers. I plan to make up my mind and reject one of them after I graduate.

However, I was being told that if I were to do so, I would leave a bad image on the company that I rejected - despite the fact that the contract states I can do so at least 1 month prior to my employment date. Is it true that I would leave a bad name at the company that I would reject? :/

Thank you in advance!
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Yup, doesn't look good. Essentially you temporarily took away someone else's (from the same applicant pool as you) opportunity for the other offer that you would eventually reject. There is a fair bit of clean up to do by the HR if you reject quite awhile after you have accepted the offer.

I would rather reject the other offer as soon as practicable. It looks selfish to me accepting and holding both. Just my personal opinion.
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post May 24 2019, 05:05 AM

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Hi, one of the Big 4 firms in Kota Kinabalu is recruiting for an experienced Tax Manager, preferably with a Big 4/mid tier firm experience /strong fluency in Tax technical (5 yrs of experience at least).

Pm me if you’re interested. Thanks.

 

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