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Big 4 Recruitment Drive_v3
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Bullspike P
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Aug 21 2019, 07:43 PM
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Hey everyone, just made an acc here to ask a few questions lol
I'm an ACCA student and I'll be having my final paper which is AAA/P7 coming along this Sept. Currently studying in SunwayTES, and I'm a straight passer (fingers crossed!)with a first-class OBU degree.
Basically, I've deposited my resumes to EY and Deloitte for Audit Associate 2 position. Haven't done the same for KPMG but I've managed to meetup face to face with their HR team 2-3 times (due to events and what not). For PwC, I've applied for their Junior Xplorer programme last month, but still no answer.
My questions are:
1)I didn't join any clubs/societies during my college years, but I've joined a lot of competitions/tournaments and won placements. Will this be considered as extracurricular activities?
2)When are the typical recruitment drives during the year?
3) Is it cocky to the interviewer(s) if I answer the maximum amount for the expected salary? (ie RM 3.5k)
4) I've heard from classmates that KPMG has more Malays than other firms, is it true? Not to say that I have anything against them, just wanna clarify.
5) Do PwC and EY have any overseas secondment opportunities? I'm leaning more towards KPMG since they do have this available and blatantly advertised, but I haven't heard much from PwC and EY.
Thanks for answering my questions and sorry if these were asked before.
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Bullspike P
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Sep 6 2019, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(Zero Correlation @ Aug 26 2019, 02:00 PM) I won't answer each and every question as I may not have the most up-to-date answer to all of them Generally, you fit the bill of what Big4 wanted, mainly the fact that you finished ACCA and straight pass. So it won't be difficult to secure a conditional offer (on condition that you pass the final paper) I don't think any interviewers (who are generally practice managers) would ask you what is your expected salary. The salary offered is standard and to a certain extent, non-negotiable. If you start asking about salary to the interviewer, you may leave a negative impression. Asking HR is fine In terms of secondment opportunities, I'm surprised you felt that KPMG has the most opportunity, because it certainly does not feel that way when I speak with the senior ppl there. EY and PwC partners present themselves way better. PwC secondment tends to be reserved for high performers and ppl who are earmarked as partners candidate so it may not feel like everyone has equal opportunity. It seems quite easy to get into secondment in Deloitte if that's your primary objective. But you know secondments come with bond right? In terms of Malays, I think it's quite safe to say EY has the most, especially at partners level. It kinda depends on the group and team you are placed in Thanks for the input btw, I honestly wasn't even aware that secondments come with a bonding agreement. I'm merely interested in secondment for the overseas experience, but it won't be the only target that I'm aiming for. I've got a follow up question if you don't mind. Since I've just finished EY's online assessment a few days ago, what should I expect afterwards and how long does it typically take for them to get back to me?
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Bullspike P
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Oct 26 2019, 01:40 AM
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Since we're on that topic, how about department M? What is it actually? Just curious
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Bullspike P
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Jul 23 2020, 04:39 PM
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Hey everyone, I'm 9 months into audit in KP.
So far I would say that I've been allocated to quite manageable engagements compared to the rest of my peers (which I'm thankful for).
However, I feel like I've been doing mostly the same thing. Tieing and ticking figures here and there, vouching, etc. I honestly feel quite demotivated af if this continues down the line.
So I've been thinking of switching to advisory/internal consultant after another peak period, but I'm not sure how that will go about since covid and all. One possible exit is to enter into the advisory arm of a mid tier firm by leveraging on my big 4 experience.
For the ones who did a similar transition, could you share your thoughts and experiences? It would be very helpful to hear them. Thanks
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Bullspike P
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Jul 26 2020, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Jul 24 2020, 09:34 AM) Btw, you're only 9 months in the role. What is your expectation? Have you done performance review with your bosses and made it known you would like to handle even more things? Asides from the usual vouching/casting etc. It takes time to tackle all those things. And even in same audit firms, but different managers and seniors, some may even just chuck you the whole dormant/active/subsi accounts and ask you to wrap it up vs a team that has no staffing issues and seniors are still around to handle the key areas. Which would you prefer? Yup, I'm aware that I might sound quite naive, that's why I'm asking for inputs. Currently I'm holding 2 dormant entity files and doing their FS, aside from assisting my seniors on work done in the main company under a group structure. My performance so far has been quite okay, usually hovering around above expectation/at expectation. I did mentioned that I was open to more responsibilities, but my Performance Manager feels that I shouldn't rush into things and just go with the flow. Expectations wise, I can't say much since this is my first job. But I think as long as it's doable and the challenge is gradually increased, I'm fine with that
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Bullspike P
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Aug 25 2020, 10:53 AM
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Hey everyone, I've got a thought that just crossed my mind.
Would it be considered as career suicide if I were to jump from Big 4 audit to a mid tier firm (ie Crowe, Mazars) for another role?
I was looking through job vacancies on websites, and some of the positions offered looked quite interesting, like financial accounting advisory since an internal transfer within my current firm isn't possible.
My current situation is that I'm 10 months into the job, and currently holding 3 audit files on my own (2 dormant, 1 active). I don't mind the working hours but it's been getting repetitive imo. Would like to know y'all opinions.
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Bullspike P
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Aug 26 2020, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Aug 26 2020, 09:46 AM) Just go for it if the job scope is something you're keen on. Big 4 is still Big 4. Image, prestige, job exposure etc but who's to say you can't get an even more rewarding exposure/challenge in your next role? Btw, 10months in your current role, or 10 months overall in your first job? If you do stay on, wouldn't the chances of getting promoted to the next level seem more attainable? Oh hi again, 10 months in my current role/first job. I'm due for a promotion in the next promotion cycle. I agree with you, but there's always that small voice of doubt saying "don't leave" haha
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Bullspike P
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Dec 2 2020, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(Fantastic1218 @ Dec 2 2020, 02:42 AM) I interviewed with E* last week for audit 6 month contract position. I wonder if they r not offering me full time position because I have no experience, although I applied for tax but they freeze the hiring. I wanna ask your advice, if I am rather an introvert, is audit a suitable career? Are you an introvert or are you shy? There's a difference between the two. I am a full-blown introvert, but I am not shy when it comes to dealing with clients (eg, asking for supporting documents, raising audit queries, etc). If you're a shy person, I personally think Audit is great in building up your confidence in speaking with professionals, regardless of title, since you will also have to speak with the Finance Managers, CFOs and Directors of the companies that you're auditing.
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Bullspike P
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Jan 13 2021, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(Izzam98 @ Jan 12 2021, 12:57 PM) Hi can I know are big 4 still hiring? And can I know how many people are there in a team? Thank you Number of auditors in a team depends on the client size and the budget for the audit. Typically larger sized company (ie MNC or Shared Services) will have more than 5 auditors in a team. A small company like dormant or semi active only needs 1-2 auditors.
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