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Sasuke95
post Nov 4 2017, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(tankwek @ Nov 4 2017, 02:47 PM)
U mean the interview for 4 month contract ?
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post Nov 4 2017, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(YerinPark @ Nov 4 2017, 09:47 PM)
Just because they need people, doesn't mean they will simply hire. FYI, they have TONS of other applicants and I just saw November's new intake (Wednestday 1st Nov) and ofc they will choose someone who exhibits positivity vs someone who ( I don't want to be judge but it comes off as being very vague, avoiding questions, etc)

If you couldn't read between the lines and understand that the interviewers wanted to see and understand more on how you overcame your failures/difficulties, then you should really understand how behavioral interviews work, as I recall most fresh grad interviews are behavior based vs experienced hire interviews which involves more knowledge/technical.

I guess its a good learning experience in terms of interviews, the more interviews you go for, the more familiar and comfortable you can get.

You can be really smart but have negative attitude, fact is you won't be hired unless you have a really niche skill which is urgently needed and you can have mediocre results but good attitude/good co-curricular activities, you can find yourself receiving the offer letter.

Just my thoughts, feel free to correct me if the interviewer was rude/etc and or my understanding was wrong.  thumbup.gif
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For a second thought i could've answered how i overcome the failures, it was actually a good interview question, just that at that time i was feeling offended being asked directly like that. Cuz i know it is not easy to complete those qualifications and yet u focus on my failures.
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post Nov 22 2017, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(Stupox @ Nov 22 2017, 05:34 PM)
true, last 3 years, I failed all my interviews with PwC, EY, and KPMG. however after getting 2 years audit experience from a bank, I got a call from deloitte and successfully gotten an offer from them. just go with the flow and try your best, and let God do the rest 😁
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I'm guessing you're either an ACCA affiliate or simply having very good Degree result that time, otherwise none of the big 4 will bother to invite.

I applied when my qualifications were 90% completion, just a matter of time I will officially hold both ACCA affiliate title and Degree, they didn't bother.

Once I officially completed (recently), all of them replied.

As of now KP, EY, BDO rejected me after interview (more or less I know the reason, not prepared enough I guess), pwc is my last shot now.
I would like to ask if you know the reason behind your failures that time? I sincerely hope that I will pass the pwc interview and kickstart my career.

Kindly advise me about the pwc interview if you still remember, thanks!

ps: i'm actually working in other audit firm now, already 2 months, i can leave very soon as the notice period is short so no issue of switching, but will the fact that I worked before adversely affect my chances? I'm afraid they will mistook me as being disloyal.
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post Nov 24 2017, 12:05 PM

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Went to pwc interview, the interview lasted about 15 or 20 min, all the questions i know how to answer because i was fully prepared this time, but i noticed:

1. I was expecting more questions from him, such as why pwc, current firm experience, strength weaknesses, why audit, work with different culture or not, what's the length of bus/airplane etc. But he didn't ask, good sign or bad?

2. One positive sign i heard is to have 1 hour interview, mine didn't last that long, is it bad?

3. His smile was bright while inviting me to room, but during the interview he's not smiling, I'm not sure whether he's just being serious, or he's getting turned off by me. Because at the beginning of introducing myself i may seem like i memorized the words beforehand, I'm not sure if this is no no. But overall i would say i presented myself very well.

Please advice, i have mixed feelings about the outcome

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post Nov 24 2017, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Nov 24 2017, 04:00 PM)
1. Interview should be simple and straightforward. I think most audit managers are busy and want to get back to their job
2. Probably they have other candidate. Do you see others there? Or is it near lunch time or late evening?
3. Not relevant. You should be more careful if he smiling the whole time. They will normally eat you for breakfast.
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1. If they have no time they shouldn't conduct the interview I guess, if manager didn't ask enough, he/she cannot know the applicant better, I wonder how they arrive at a hiring decision? Based on mood? Looks? I'm quite worry if what you said in point 1 is true because it would mean the hiring rate is based on luck alone. So many questions he didn't ask me, which means I will have less chance to present myself. On the other hand, I do hope he ended the interview so soon is because that he had made his mind to hire or not, hopefully positive answer...

2. I didn't see any candidate around me. Maybe I'm the last one? Morning by the way

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post Nov 24 2017, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(doublej2 @ Nov 24 2017, 07:58 PM)
What are the main questions that he asked you?  wink.gif
Any technical questions?

That's quite weird, no str/weakness. Maybe they have already set their mind to employ you since you have ACCA qualification?  brows.gif
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No technical at all even though I'm working as an auditor in another firm now.
Ask about your background / tell me about yourself, some stories to prove what you said is true, that's it.

ACCA affiliate everywhere lols, not special anymore
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post Nov 24 2017, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Nov 24 2017, 08:03 PM)
About the 1), I have an example related to your concern

Lets say there are 20 finalists, all of them are well-fitted for the job.
But only 10 need to be hired. So how to choose?

Then external factor will come in.
This guy is more handsome so I choose him, this person looks honest, this girl looks beautiful.
Uhmm this one looks chubby(fat) no thanks, this has a lot of pimples also no...

this is also another factor, i think personally
like of course you want someone you like to work with you
thats why first impression is important

so always try to strike every factor
because at the final stage, everyone is the same
same qualification, zero to little working experience, etc

of course this is only applies to freshie or to compete with person with the same level as you
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In my opinion I think male interviewer will prefer females? All my male interviewers rejected me, but female interviewers love me, I'm quite good looking btw.
I was praying for a female interviewer in pwc but nope, I hope things do go well.
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post Nov 24 2017, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Nov 24 2017, 09:05 PM)
Yep law of attraction bro

if you lengzhai, fit, wear nicely, talk like gentleman, then female interviewer will tend to favor you more
same goes to girls lah vice versa mah

but I think you crossed the line abit? About well-prepared and over-prepared for the interview
becuz I saw you even prepared for some question like 'whats the length of bus/airplane'
is this even related to audit meh laugh.gif

because if i were the interviewer, and you answered me an exact amount like 9.5 meter, I would just think this person is good at memorizing, nothing special
but if you improvise and answer like this(i simply make up the answer ya)
"A bus is about the length of 2.5 sedan cars. 2 of me equals to a car. And Im about 1.75m tall. So a sedan car is about 3.5m. Then a bus is maybe about 10m."

Ya know something like improvisation? I think that answer will better than giving the exact length of a bus.

Because normally our english is not that good at speaking, you can easily spot a person does he memorize a whole answer or say whatever he knows in his mind.
If I know this guy memorized everything from a script, then whats the point of interview? Because every question I ask you will just pour out the answer you had memorized.
Then how do I know more about you? I think this is also one of the factors bah hmm.gif
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Yeah I tried to cover as many questions as possible, because I'm not the person who can promptly answer everything, even though the story really happened before I couldn't explain it properly if you ask me on the spot, I need to prepare.

The questions (bus length) clearly is not related to audit, more like how you will react to the question, I also already planned the answer, similar to what you made up, but a refined version. I wouldn't say the exact length directly, no point.

And yes that's what I mean, in the beginning I'm afraid I may looked like I already memorized the script, but along the way I acted more natural even though it is from the script as well. But do note that whatever is in my script is real, just that I need to structure the words and sequence properly so I can present it.

I'm afraid he will noticed that I have a script in mind and doesn't want to continue interviewing further, but in the positive side it could be viewed as this person is fully prepared, the interpretation is different from person to person, I hope he interpreted in the positive way.
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post Nov 26 2017, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Nov 26 2017, 01:16 PM)
The manager normally has no say in this. They are assigned to do the job by the HR. FYI, firms adopt a bit different approach when comes to staffing. Most staffs will be parked in a general pool. The managers will choose and pick staffs from the pool depending on the project. Hence you will report to few managers. No manager claims ownership of staffs. Hence, any manager can conduct interview. Normally its based on rotation.

Big4 have hundreds of interview per year, I am pretty sure not all managers are as motivated as you are. Everyone is human after all. Especially if the manager is planning to resign soon.
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so all in all, you mean that whether to hire me or not, is like tossing a coin?
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post Nov 30 2017, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(doublej2 @ Nov 30 2017, 02:26 PM)
Anyone has gotten offers from PwC for the 4-months contract? smile.gif
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Still waiting result, after today means officially after 1 week, expect to know next week, if no I'll call, curious too how long they'll reply.
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post Nov 30 2017, 02:42 PM

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Phew, got the job in pwc! So relieved
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post Dec 3 2017, 09:12 PM

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I'm curious about 1 thing, is it very hard to hang on for more than 3 years?
Quite a lot of my friends are setting target of leaving after 3 years.

From what I know, leaving after 1 year as manager will be ideal, which means a total of 5 to 6 years if I'm not mistaken.
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post Dec 14 2017, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(theclumsyone @ Dec 14 2017, 05:23 PM)
ahh maybe because i am the person who sweat easily. 1km of walking distance to me can create alot of sweat odors, especially under the hot sun  cry.gif
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post Dec 23 2017, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(zomode @ Dec 23 2017, 02:11 PM)
I tried to apply to all big 4 almost one year ago, but din get any reply. Now I have some working experience and I hope to apply again, will my application still be considered by the HR? I assumed they turned down my application last time and there might have a record in their database?
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That's ridiculous, it is like saying if you failed 1 time means you fail forever.
Just re-apply, the cooldown period is 6 months, it's been 1 year for you so you can go.
But since you're an experienced hire now, things will be a bit different, such as the questions to be asked.
After going thru 4 of the big 5's interview, I can say that preparation is the most important thing, without it means guaranteed to fail.
Also be careful of what you're going to say, sometimes being prepared is still not enough, review your preparation to make sure the points you're going to present will only give you positive points and no ambiguous meaning, in one of the interview I said I chose my team members carefully instead of taking random members during my uni time to ensure things will go well, it can be perceived as positive or negative, positive as in I am a careful and observative person, negative as in I am not flexible, chances of negative interpretation is quite high because in work place we're often assigned random members, you can't choose, interviewer needs to hear how well you can deal with random members, so in my very last interview I amended this mistake and got the job.
In reality, the fact that I chose team members is the truth, but not necessarily you tell the truth to put yourself in trouble, sometimes you gotta lie a bit.
Hope I helped.

 

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