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 Working in Australia V2, All About working in Australia

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limeuu
post Aug 24 2019, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(VinluV @ Aug 23 2019, 05:23 AM)
Oh. What about Renewal of PR?
If I stay less than 2 years during my PR, will there be an issue renewing PR?
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a common misconception....

a pr granted is permanent.....there is no expiry.....you can stay on till you die (of they take it away for treason etc)....no action necessary to keep it....

however, if you ever leave the country, to re-enter, you need a rrv....if you don't leave, you do not need that.....and that rrv is generally valid for 5 years....on expiry, to qualify for another rrv, you need to have lived 2 of the preceding 5 years in oz.....

again, if you don't leave oz, you don't need "renewal" of anything....
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post Aug 25 2019, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 24 2019, 11:03 PM)
a common misconception....

a pr granted is permanent.....there is no expiry.....you can stay on till you die (of they take it away for treason etc)....no action necessary to keep it....

however, if you ever leave the country, to re-enter, you need a rrv....if you don't leave, you do not need that.....and that rrv is generally valid for 5 years....on expiry, to qualify for another rrv, you need to have lived 2 of the preceding 5 years in oz.....

again, if you don't leave oz, you don't need "renewal" of anything....
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Well explained.
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post Aug 26 2019, 06:11 AM

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Actually I am curious, assume I have PR and the PR is expired. Since I do not need a RRV but want to go to Australia for a holiday. Can I apply for ETA instead?
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post Aug 26 2019, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(twotwopig @ Aug 26 2019, 06:11 AM)
Actually I am curious, assume I have PR and the PR is expired. Since I do not need a RRV but want to go to Australia for a holiday. Can I apply for ETA instead?
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Normally before you 'surrender' your PR, you will be asked to sign a declaration that you are renouncing your PR. This usually happens when your application for a rrv is rejected (usually for not being able to meet the 2/5 year condition).
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post Aug 29 2019, 11:17 AM

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https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...stralia/1784946

I guess more and more people using asylum as a shortcut to stay in Australia, without the need to go through horrendous english tests and exhausting processes for immigration dept. I've came across a couple of them, and after some interaction, they even mentioned that they have little to no idea Malaysian reputation is getting worse in this area, and continues to encourage fellow friends to come over using the same method. I'm not trying to stereotype, but most i've heard of are M, using reasons like wanting to live life free from Malaysian "Religious police", to be granted the visa.

They even get medicare card.
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post Aug 29 2019, 12:17 PM

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Hi.. received my TR 489 for South Australia approved.

However my job offers are at melbourne, sydney and perth.

Need help with forumers here,

(1) can we convert my TR to a working permit if i take up the role in perth?

(2) if 1 happens, will it diminish my chances of eventually getting a PR within 2 years?

I thank you all in advance.
rgregson
post Sep 6 2019, 09:19 PM

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BobSponge...I haven't logged in to LowYat for ages. Its a Friday and i'm reminiscing the old times. With regards to your property sales, i'm not a tax consultant but I advise against declaring anything. There's no need to pay unnecessary tax even though the ATO insist on just because you're a PR.

Hawthorn is a nice place to put up.



QUOTE(BobSponge @ Aug 7 2019, 01:27 PM)
A bit tricky cause I need to prepare in the event my properties in Malaysia gets sold as there are several with joint names which makes it more complicated. Don't wanna get hit with a huge income tax later on overseas property sale. But yeah I'll google some info and then find an Australian tax consultant.

Renting for $325 AUD in Hawthorne. What about you?
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post Sep 6 2019, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(pangch @ Aug 13 2019, 05:59 PM)
Hi i am a IT background programmer working in SG. currently i wish to get a job in Australia. any1 could advise how to get start ? Thanks
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Simple answer is to come here and start somewhere, in house consultant and navigate your way up. I'm part of a team that deliver large transformation projects and been in consulting for 15 years, with the last 8 years spent around Australia.

I've always advocated Malaysians to join and come to Australia. Somehow culturally, we're not risk takers. I'm comparing with candidates from other nations, India for example. They're resilient, their network is good, they always help each other whether its CV referral or looking out for each other. Its remarkable. Some of them are really good, some fake it till they make it. And most make it. I'd encourage you to make the step and come over the kick start a new life. if it doesn't work out, you can always head back. But its worth giving a shot.

My company like all tech, banks and service providers have invested heavily in India. It is the fact, India is a great knowledge base when it comes to tech, programming, testing you name it. They have it. The point I'm trying to make is to set yourself apart. Programmer from JDA, Java, ABAP, Mulesoft, Fiori you name it, they are all outsourced now to India. Testing is 90% outsources, the remaining 10% are reporting leads and testers who deal with sensitive data.

You can use your programming hat to get the PR, but to survive here you need either be the best in what you do or evolve into a solution specialist or a functional person. You're the person that engages with the business and derived solutions based on the business requirements. Clients are picky now, they are not willing to pay for 100 on shore resource. Thats where the offshore guys get the job. Typically on small projects I will have 10-15 coders and functional guys off shore working on my projects and they're good. I usually get rid of the weak once we see slippage. We bill a Manager level here about $1600 - $1800 per day, factored into the project cost. For $370 perday i can get a very good coder, for $450 a manager level offshore. The projects we run are usually very lean onshore but a segment of a floor in our India office. Coming back....you can't be coming to australia and thinking you can work on jobs which we are slowly outsourcing. You may get lucky, but the general approach for all is to outsource.

Then there's the culture and confidence which you will build up when you start working with the Australian projects. Angmoh always speak better, they carry themselves very well. They're ready for public speaking, can present and they talk about things happening around Australia...AFL.. ete. Having said that, after being here, angmoh isn't always right. We're all equals.. its the confidence and the way we carry ourselves that makes the difference. And these will grow on you as you start living here and working here. Through time you will assimilate.

First...get your PR. Plan your arrival, try to align it with a potential job. Seek.com.au is the jobstreet of Australia. Polish up your LinkedIn.


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post Sep 6 2019, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Jun 26 2019, 07:50 PM)
Is true
But i do like SA smile.gif
No so crowded and peaceful
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SA is not so crowded agree. Job wise, there's more opportunities in Mel and Syd...but more competition and cost is higher obviously. SA has had their dry spell but it picking up. I've about 24 months in Adelaide before for work and I get it, the fresh produce and wine region sure does seem very attractive.

Coming back to your sponsored visa, how did you get 80?! I'm curious haha. But good luck though! I was a 457visa company sponsored and on my own I got the 190. Had to go through the hoops of Ielts test, background check and all. Even though i was hired in Vic, I've spent alot of time in Canberra and Adelaide, it did not affect anything. Me too, I do not encourage people to "cheat the system", as I was truly grateful for the PR and even though I traveled I was still paying rent in Vic and all was good.

I do not think it will ever affect your Citizenship. Tried, tested and its good.

SA to me, with my minimal city living, SA is good for holiday, time out but not so asian. Melb is more asian and I love it. I can get my noodles or CKT, asian groceries anytime.

Try melbourne!
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post Sep 23 2019, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(rgregson @ Sep 6 2019, 09:46 PM)
Simple answer is to come here and start somewhere, in house consultant and navigate your way up. I'm part of a team that deliver large transformation projects and been in consulting for 15 years, with the last 8 years spent around Australia.

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Heya rgregson,

Would like to ask your opinion on these roles: Cyber security (analyst) and Devops.

What's your opinion on roles like this? I've been coding for about 5+ years before making my move to Aus and forced to transition to a functional role to continue in the IT industry. I'm kinda a jack of all trades with my strength in picking up skills/tech required of me.

I'm feeling this will lead me down the path of project management and am still unsure if it's suitable for me (introvert + other excuses). Thinking about transitioning from here into a more technical analyst role like cyber security or Devops which requires more network based knowledge which I lack.

Are these roles in demand in Aus or are they outsourcing these too? With Amazon setting up shop I'm thought it possible in transitioning from my current functional role without being forced to start at entry level again if I pick up skills required by either of these roles with a more manageable paycut. Thanks!

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post Sep 23 2019, 12:41 PM

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Guys,... I'm just tapping your opinions here,... would it be a plus if your parents sent you here earlier, say you did your Middle School here ?

YOu would then have had a lot of time to assimilate into the society, and would have made your networks there,...
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post Sep 23 2019, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 23 2019, 12:41 PM)
Guys,... I'm just tapping your opinions here,... would it be a plus if your parents sent you here earlier, say you did your Middle School here ?

YOu would then have had a lot of time to assimilate into the society, and would have made your networks there,...
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A plus to get points in their PR system yes.

A minus in terms of financial, imagine staying for 2-3 years, each year cost RM 60-100k per kid.

I do know many people who applied without studying in Aussie, and manage to succeed getting their PR.

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post Sep 24 2019, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Sep 23 2019, 12:52 PM)
A plus to get points in their PR system yes.

A minus in terms of  financial, imagine staying for 2-3 years, each year cost RM 60-100k per kid.

I do know many people who applied without studying in Aussie, and manage to succeed getting their PR.
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How will doing high school in Oz help with the points?....
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post Sep 24 2019, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 24 2019, 12:34 AM)
How will doing high school in Oz help with the points?....
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Oh yes, thats not uni degree/diploma.
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post Sep 24 2019, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Sep 23 2019, 12:52 PM)
A plus to get points in their PR system yes.

A minus in terms of  financial, imagine staying for 2-3 years, each year cost RM 60-100k per kid.

I do know many people who applied without studying in Aussie, and manage to succeed getting their PR.
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I think he is asking about culturally assimilating with local Aussie?

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post Sep 24 2019, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(samo1390 @ Sep 24 2019, 08:55 AM)
I think he is asking about culturally assimilating with local Aussie?
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Yes,.. this is one way,...

Getting into a uni there won't be so stringent anymore if the kid studied at their Senior College, right ? Like,... eg, no need to take IELTS anymore,.. as an example only,... there would be many others,...
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post Sep 24 2019, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 24 2019, 11:48 AM)
Yes,.. this is one way,...

Getting into a uni there won't be so stringent anymore if the kid studied at their Senior College, right ? Like,... eg, no need to take IELTS anymore,.. as an example only,... there would be many others,...
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Having studied in secondary schools in Australia does not necessarily exempt you from proof of English proficiency....it depends on the policies of the respective unis....
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post Sep 25 2019, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 24 2019, 11:51 PM)
Having studied in secondary schools in Australia does not necessarily exempt you from proof of English proficiency....it depends on the policies of the respective unis....
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Tq limeuu,....how abt being able to do their VET ?
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post Sep 26 2019, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 25 2019, 09:46 AM)
Tq limeuu,....how abt being able to do their VET ?
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What is vet?
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 26 2019, 05:20 PM)
What is vet?
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VET = Vocational Education and Training.

Four levels of certificate. Lets a trainee undergo work experience -related training in their chosen course,... many types of courses are available.

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