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This post has been edited by JungWoo: Oct 19 2016, 07:57 PM

aside from domain and realestate, where else do you all look for houses?

These 2 are the best avoid gumtree as most are scams or direct to owner which has issus

was going to ask about gumtree as well, thanks bro

For buying, these are pretty much it.
For informal rentals, Gumtree, flatmates.com.au, FB groups. There is a M'sian FB group - Malaysians in Melb, also Global Malaysian Network.
Always got someone who want to rent out something but bypass property agent.
They also may b able to help newbies w/out rental history.

i found homely is a good site better than realestate. There's some report u could download on the recent selling price, suburb report (some ppl could give comment on those dodgy suburbs)

TBH, i found the place to rent from gumtree. yes, sometimes it's dodgy but you just have to be smart enuf to handle the situation

thanks bro! buying maybe later, rent first... i'll check the FB group out also


i'll check out homely, thanks bro

i'd better play safe cos i'm new

For rental, I suggest making sure you're dealing with an agent and not a private landlord. For example, your deposit is held in an escrow rather than privately by the landlord. You are better protected compared to renting from a private landlord with a handshake. There are some scummy landlords out there.

That's true. However there are forms that u can download and instructions on the interweb to formalise an agreement between tenant and landlord. i.e. sample contracts, agreements plus what to do etc.

Avoid landlords who want cash only and dowan to sign anything.

i'll deal with agents first, better safe than sorry

thanks so much for the suggestions

Just found this thread. Haven't read through all 90 pages yet, parking dulu.

I'd like to ask if anyone happens to know the demand for akauntan in Ozzy now.

Also, I have an option to study postgraduate in Aus, but its a sort of twinning program - I can study either here in KL or there in Aus. The cert makes no difference between the two.

So obviously I would like to know if it enhances employment to study there, versus studying "offshore" as it were.

Accounting positions are available but not easy for newcomer to enter the market.
I dont think studying offshore helps. Local experience and contacts are the surefire way of getting roles.

In short, demand for accountants is strong based on ManpowerGroup Talent Shortage Survey in the following link:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/jobs-mos...stralia-2016-10


In fact, this trend is underpinned by the recent Singapore-Australia Free Trade Agreement where 2 countries are setting up framework for mutual recognition of professional qualifications with priority be given to engineers and accountants, you can get the relevant details in the following:

http://www.theaccountant-online.com/news/a...gapore-5035033/

However, all these are only relevant if you have EXPERIENCE - and that is the difficult part.

In the market, there is indeed a shortage of EXPERIENCED accounting professionals and most of the high paying accounting jobs are in Sydney, the financial service capital. On the other hand, there is a lot of accounting graduates who are not able to get a relevant job because very few employer are willing to take on inexperience employees because they expect employees to hit the ground running - hence you have two tier job market for accounting roles.

On that note, I personally think it is wiser (and cost efficient) to study offshore and gain the relevant experience outside of Australia. Studying onshore does not give you much competitive advantage because it is the experience that matters. I personally studied offshore and have never set foot in Australia until 2 years ago after working in Msia and Singapore for about 7 years and I managed to get a relevant role in a professional accounting firm in Sydney anyway. Of course luck and timing helps too.

Hope that gives you some perspective. Cheers

This post has been edited by Justin Wong: Oct 22 2016, 03:50 PM

thank you, yes it does.

I'm aware of the SAFTA agreement, if I remember right they want 7-10 years experience... not quite there yet

I am not sure about the 7-10 years part, maybe you can enlighten me on this.

Regardless, getting the relevant experience is just one part of the equation, getting a job in Australia is another challenge of its own even with experience. You may refer to some of the earlier post in this thread as we have exchanged at length.

I think another important thing to note is how the accounting industry is evolving - overall accounting jobs are growing more sophisticated and the segment that is with strong demand are areas in financial analytics and modelling - an area that requires a mixture of accounting, finance (for project finance and M&A related work), programming and IT. Statutory reporting for listed co and internal audit is also going growing in demand because of more complex accounting standards and regulations. Traditional accounting roles (AP, AR, general compliance type) on the other hand will remain static and unrewarding in the future, not to mention it is getting competitive.

You might wanna give a thought about those points and carve your career path accordingly if you are serious about working in Australia in Accounting mate. Just my 2 cents.

Thanks again.

I misremembered, its not SAFTA but ACCA I had read about. Similar to SAFTA, there are plans to mutually recognise ACCA members and CA ANZ members of at least 8 years' experience.

Right. You are talking about the ACCA CAANZ Strategic Alliance. it is already effective and ACCA members are invited to join CA ANZ if they meet the following requirements:

1. At least five years of relevant post-ACCA qualification experience.
2. Two CA ANZ member's recommendation (CAANZ may ask for three)
3. Being a resident of Australia and New Zealand

I happened to be one of the beneficiaries of this Strategic Alliance.

This post has been edited by Justin Wong: Oct 23 2016, 07:25 AM

hi all, engineering graduate here with only 1 year of local chinaman company experience
I want to asl, is it possible for me to get a job in australia? I have asked some of my PR friends in australia, they informed me that the best chance would be to get MNC to send you over or just study my master in australia

Ah I see. The website makes it sound as if its not fully rolled out yet. Congrats and thanks again.

Hi u seem very successful , can I know what field you working