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 ALLIANZ 1163, Undervalued stock?

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TSdarkknight81
post Nov 15 2015, 08:55 PM, updated 11y ago

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Allianz 1163
RM 10.68

PE 6.16
Market capitalization 1.808billion
EPS 173.39
Number of shares 169.31M
NTA : 14.50

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post Nov 15 2015, 09:27 PM

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The company's volume is illiquid and lacks the dividend attraction though...

Tasek is better though...

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post Nov 15 2015, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(ILoveLalat.net @ Nov 15 2015, 10:27 PM)
The company's volume is illiquid and lacks the dividend attraction though...

Tasek is better though...
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Lol tasek is different industry N dividend are not sustainable.
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post Nov 16 2015, 09:14 AM

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I've also been looking at this stock, P/E wise is quite attractive. However, dividend yield is pathetic...

But, this could be a potential future cash cow stock, but when will they start having a better payout? It's like ages already their DY being pathetic...
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post Nov 16 2015, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 16 2015, 10:14 AM)
I've also been looking at this stock, P/E wise is quite attractive. However, dividend yield is pathetic...

But, this could be a potential future cash cow stock, but when will they start having a better payout? It's like ages already their DY being pathetic...
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Bought LPi instead of Allianz today
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post Nov 16 2015, 12:42 PM

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I have been keeping tabs for 5 years on Allianz but I am not sure anything attractive on to it. Apart from Tasek, I'm good on United Plantations.

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post Nov 16 2015, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(ILoveLalat.net @ Nov 16 2015, 01:42 PM)
I have been keeping tabs for 5 years on Allianz but I am not sure anything attractive on to it. Apart from Tasek, I'm good on United Plantations.
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I Don know how much you bought for tasek but existing price are definitely too expensive. Dividend payout more than eps
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post Nov 16 2015, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 16 2015, 12:23 PM)
Bought LPi instead of Allianz today
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LPI...good FD stock thumbup.gif

QUOTE(ILoveLalat.net @ Nov 16 2015, 12:42 PM)
I have been keeping tabs for 5 years on Allianz but I am not sure anything attractive on to it. Apart from Tasek, I'm good on United Plantations.
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Like I've said earlier, it's a future cash cow stock

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post Nov 16 2015, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 16 2015, 01:58 PM)
LPI...good FD stock thumbup.gif
Like I've said earlier, it's a future cash cow stock
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Yup. Look at their retained earnings
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 16 2015, 01:10 PM)
Yup.  Look at their retained earnings
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u talkin' LPI or Allianz?
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post Nov 16 2015, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 16 2015, 02:14 PM)
u talkin' LPI or Allianz?
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Allianz
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post Nov 16 2015, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 16 2015, 01:24 PM)
Allianz
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Then why u bought LPI over Allianz? tongue.gif
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post Nov 16 2015, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 16 2015, 02:31 PM)
Then why u bought LPI over Allianz? tongue.gif
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I Don know whether u aware of Allianz - pa
The number of pa are more than normal shares which means
The actual PE are not 6.16 but 12.xx

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post Nov 16 2015, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 16 2015, 01:59 PM)
I Don know whether u aware of Allianz - pa
The number of pa are more than normal shares which means
The actual PE are not 6.16 but 12.xx
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enlighten me, apa tu pa blink.gif
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post Nov 16 2015, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 16 2015, 03:01 PM)
enlighten me, apa tu pa blink.gif
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Allianz pa are preference shares. The dividend payout are 1.2 times more than normal shares however preference share do not have voting rights

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post Nov 16 2015, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 16 2015, 02:03 PM)
Allianz pa are preference shares.  The dividend payout are 1.2 times more than normal shares however preference share do not have voting rights
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Oh thanks for the info, gotta study more into their financials then
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post Aug 15 2016, 01:55 PM

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Still coma and low yield doh.gif
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post Oct 21 2020, 08:14 PM

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Revive this tered a bit. Saw this counter and the sudden increase in the dividend since 2018. From 12 sen to 40 sen for ordinary shares.

But idk if I should buy the pref share or the ordinary share. The pref share very illquid, but about the same price as ordinary shares with 1.2x div of ordinary.
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post Oct 22 2020, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Oct 21 2020, 08:14 PM)
Revive this tered a bit. Saw this counter and the sudden increase in the dividend since 2018. From 12 sen to 40 sen for ordinary shares.

But idk if I should buy the pref share or the ordinary share. The pref share very illquid, but about the same price as ordinary shares with 1.2x div of ordinary.
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Can we choose to buy prefer shares? 🤔
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post Oct 22 2020, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Oct 22 2020, 08:45 AM)
Can we choose to buy prefer shares? 🤔
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Sewms like its possible. It's just under a different name called Allianz PA. Now selling at RM 13.90 compared to the ordinary share at RM 13.60
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Oct 22 2020, 10:03 AM)
Sewms like its possible. It's just under a different name called Allianz PA. Now selling at RM 13.90 compared to the ordinary share at RM 13.60
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Ooooooo. I see. I am also looking at some insurance shares haha.
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post Oct 22 2020, 02:04 PM

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undervalued, no doubt. But, disadvantage would be liquidity, if want to cash out then might not have enough buyers..
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post Oct 22 2020, 04:44 PM

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If want insurance company, can also consider takaful. Higher DY, higher growth. However, also illiquid stock
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post Oct 22 2020, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Oct 22 2020, 04:44 PM)
If want insurance company, can also consider takaful. Higher DY, higher growth. However, also illiquid stock
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Hmm, annual report gooding so far? 🤔
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post Oct 22 2020, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Oct 22 2020, 05:58 PM)
Hmm, annual report gooding so far? 🤔
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Last q dropped slightly, but just renewed partnership with RHB
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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Oct 22 2020, 07:41 PM)
Last q dropped slightly, but just renewed partnership with RHB
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I see. Will need to read sikit. 😁
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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Oct 22 2020, 04:44 PM)
If want insurance company, can also consider takaful. Higher DY, higher growth. However, also illiquid stock
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Takful seems a bit overvalue in my view. It has the highest PB among the other insurers and has comparable dividend yields to Allianz based on this peer comparison by Affin Hwang. Though its high ROE certainly is attractive.

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post Feb 22 2024, 08:45 PM

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hello sorry to interupt.

any allianz agent here?

just want to know that normally how long will it takes to complete the process
of policy surrender?

summited all required documents via email.

 

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