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 How To Check Your Forex Broker Is Genuine Or Scam, Real FX Broker VS Scam FX Broker

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post May 5 2021, 02:46 AM

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QUOTE(waghyu @ Apr 19 2021, 05:00 AM)
Usually backtest result totally different than real trading.
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May I know why ? Cause I’m planning to invest in a GOLD bot and their backtesy results at least 10% profit per annum since 2015
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post May 5 2021, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(Razer_coc @ May 5 2021, 02:46 AM)
May I know why ? Cause I’m planning to invest in a GOLD bot and their backtesy results at least 10% profit per annum since 2015
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Normally backtest do not come with slippages that usually happened on real live market.
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QUOTE(Razer_coc @ May 5 2021, 02:46 AM)
May I know why ? Cause I’m planning to invest in a GOLD bot and their backtesy results at least 10% profit per annum since 2015
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Many reason / factor. Test is depends on historical data on which server provider, even historical data ticks u need to buy. Gold yes good cash cow.
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post May 5 2021, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(terrytan @ May 5 2021, 02:53 AM)
Normally backtest do not come with slippages that usually happened on real live market.
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gold vol quite big should be minimal slippage ah...

if position/swing bot... slippage not that big problem also

but you are correct slippage can be a big factor

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Nov 14 2015, 05:16 AM)
How To Check Is the Forex Broker Genuine :thumbsup:  Or Scam devil.gif

What sort of trader would not like the assistance of a broker that he can rely on? Most new traders struggle to find a genuine forex broker who is transparent and provides a great forex trading experience. There are several reasons for this, but one of the major reasons is the mindset of the traders themselves. As most new traders are lured into the forex game through a fake forex broker as an easy way to make money, they have a wrong image about the forex market and hence do not know how to get long term success. Most of us know that forex is one of the most volatile markets in the world, and due to its floating nature, the prices of the currencies cannot be predicted. But the question of how to identify weather a forex broker is genuine or not depends on several factors. You can also check the various internet websites like forexstars and other to get reviews about the various forex brokers. Here are some ways how you can check the authenticity of a forex broker.
MAKE SURE THE FOREX BROKER IS WELL REGULATED
Only trade or invest with top tier licensed brokers/banks who are under tier 1 and 2 licenses for highest protection. For example, in the event of a Swiss broker/bank bankruptcy, traders and investors are given up to CHF100k capital protection.

Tier 1 licenses under: US NFA, UK FCA, SWISS FINMA, JAPAN FSA, SINGAPORE MAS.
Tier 2 licenses under: European financial regulators (except Cysec), Australia ASIC, Canada IIROC.
AVOID UNREGULATED BROKERS OR OFFSHORE REGULATED BROKERS (Vanuatu, Seychelles, St. Vincent, Belize, Indonesia etc)

Traders and investors can check with their corresponding regulatory agencies that check the credibility of the forex brokers. They include the National Futures Association (NFA) and Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in the United States, Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) and Prudential Regulation Authority (PRA) in the United Kingdom, Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC), Swiss Federal Banking Commission (SFBC) and FINMA, Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht (BaFIN) in Germany and Autorité des Marchés Financiers (AMF) in France.
Analyze the Website
We all know that in this age of peerless internet technology, coming across fake content is totally possible and one must first check the website first for a clear picture of the reviews. Some websites are meant not for the viewers but an organization’s attempt at getting more affiliates. In such cases you have to judge for yourself whether the reviews are real or are posted through automated software to get more viewers.

Check the Comment Box
Some sites are highly moderated along with the viewer’s comments that appear on the website due to the fear of spam. If a website allows regular users to comment on their posts that is a great sign of openness. But if your comment doesn’t appear immediately on the website and is stuck in the moderation phase forever, you certainly do not want to waste a lot of time reading your reviews on such a website. Several times unanswered comment boxes also indicate the website’s poor activity.

Only Promote Genuine Reviews
There are several websites that post a review and also refer the viewer to a broker’s website as several broker’s pay the sites to promote themselves. While there is nothing wrong in referrals, the viewers must also use their full discretion when it comes to judging whether the reviews are genuine or not. Try to avoid websites that also provide a referral link in a review that also redirects the user to the broker’s webpage.

Transparency Is A Must
The best way to know whether your forex broker is a fake one or not, is to look for his list of clients. While several fake brokers might tell you that it is against the law to disclose such information, the reality is the total opposite and no genuine broker would be afraid to share the list of his clients. Genuine brokers use their network of traders more as their work portfolio and you can always judge the authenticity of a broker through the profiles of the various clients and traders that he deals with. More transparency in a broker’s activities will instill more faith in the clients.

Look At How The Broker Works
While this would be like judging a book from its cover, forex brokers can be judged based on how they deal with their clients. If the forex broker holds each client’s funds in a segregated account approved by the traders, then it is quiet likely that you’re working with a genuine broker. Make sure that the broker has a valid proof of operating under a government regulation.

Check the Broker’s Portfolio
After you have checked how the broker works and the long list of his client’s, you still need to see if the clients are earning regular profits or not. Doing a short background check on how the various traders are performing with a particular broker is one of the best ways to know a broker’s authenticity. Forex is a highly fluctuating market and to ensure profits one requires having a really keen eye and a really honest forex broker.

Forex trading is a risky business and requires a lot of experience and skills, to earn profits over a long term period. Hence it is highly important that the new traders must check the genuineness of a broker to experience a non-stressful forex trading environment.

Indication of SCAMs:
1. FIX RETURN (SCAM)
2. Unregulated or offshore regulated brokers (Potential SCAM)
3. Lucrative upfront commission (SCAM)
4. No live report/statement access (Potential SCAM)
5. Fix exchange rate for deposit and withdrawal (SCAM)
6. Cash payment or local deposit (SCAM) unless through regulated payment gateway.
7. Lock up period (Potential SCAM)
8. Hold good license but fund being transfer to different country or offshore bank
9. High monthly return with illogical low drawdown
10. Capital guaranteed


Any FX companies matched at least 2 of above indications, it is a potential SCAM. If matched 3 of the above indications, then it is definitely a SCAM!


List of Genuine Forex Brokers
1. Forex.com (Gain Capital)
2. IG
3. Pepperstone
4. Axi
5. Interactive Brokers
6. FXCM
7. ICM.com
8. LMAX
9. TradeMax
10. FXPro
11. Saxobank
12. IC Markets
13. Dukascopy
14. Oanda
15. FXTRADING.com
16. FXDD
17. ATCBrokers
18. City Index (Gain Capital)
19. Varianse
20. LCG
21. AIMS
22. Swissquote Bank
23. ThinkMarkets
24. Markets.com
25. Flowbank
26. Bloomberg
27. Tickmill
28. AVATRADE
29. Exness
30. eToro
31. Plus500
32. Admiral Markets
33. Global Prime
34. FXTM
35. BlueberryMarkets
36. TradeTech Alpha
37. Trade.com
38. ADS Securities
39. EasyForex
40. ACY Securities
41. Synergy FX
42. Halifax Investment Services
43. Capital.com
44. AAAFX
45. HY Markets
46. ActivTrades
47. EightCap
48. MaxFX
49. Advanced Markets
50. AKFX
51. Tigerwit
52. GBE Brokers
53. Rakuten Securities
54. GKFX
55. Go Markets
56. Vantage FX
57. Royal RFXT
58. Mex Exchange
59. CMS Forex
60. Amana Capital
61. ATFX
62. equiti
63. FP Markets
64. GMI
65. Aetos
List of SCAM Forex Brokers !ALERT!

1. LiteForex
2. GSM Financial Group
3. RCFX
4. Maxim Trader
5. ODFX
6. GM Trader (TriumphFX)
7. WFX
8. Eu Trading Group EUTG (NewTradeFX)
9. IBS
10. FXUnited
11. YouTradeFX (EUTG)
12. UFXMarkets
13. GVF
14. TP Eagles
15. Efzinitus
16. IGOFX
17. Vortex Assets and VFX Premium (Eu Trading Group)
18. KBFX
19. JJPTR
20. SFX Markets
21. FXMAC
22. Nordhill Capital
23. Otex World
24. ikoFX
25. FXcoliseum
26. FXCitizen
27. Capital Foster Advisor
28. IIB International Broker
29. PTFX
30. Falconaire
31. HotForex
32. Xtrade
33. iiinvestments
34. Exia International Group
35. MYS CAPITAL (SFX Markets)
36. Zurich Prime
37. VenusFX
38. WMS Capital
39. MXC Forex
40. ECM
41. Sentratama Investor Future
42. Midasama (Pruton Capital)
43. FG GLOBAL ENRICH (White Label of Fullerton Markets)
44. FCMIS
45. ODIN Management (odincapital.com)
46. BlueMax Capital
47. Questra
48. Atlantic Global Asset Management
49. FXPrimus
50. OctaFX
51. AccentForex
52. Financial.org
53. OTM Capital
54. MG Falconer (TP Eagle)
55. Starexfx
56. FintechFX (MIA)
57. SuperForex
58. Algotechs
59. Bealgo
60. FiFx Global
61. UTS (Sentratama)
62. Blue Trading
63. Midtou Financials
64. OTM Capital (Midtou)
65. MX Capital (Scrptx Portfolio)
66. EssenceFX
67. Tradesto
68. GCG Asia
69. Gold Tinkle - Genesis Business Group
70. WikiFX (fxeye.com)
71. TradeFred - BrightFX Capital Limited (MIA)
72. ICS Resources Sdn. Bhd.
73. OlympusFX
74. AIP
75. Ocean Bliss Investments (oceanicblissfx)
76. IronFX
77. Veonco Group
78. ECM Trader (ECM Group)
79. CK Ltd.
80. Daweda (Midasama)
81. HiiFX
82. HKdahui
83. Trilasia.com
84. Stone Lion Financial
85. Throne Legacy Capital 腾乐
86. Fullerton Markets
87. NARTT
88. Oribix
89. Awe SwissFX
90. CTIN (MDCFOREX)
91. MAXWISE Union (Sentratama)
92. TrealFX
93. 360coinpath
94. Jadesan Capital Investments (JCI)
95. Orion Star Capital
96. Maxi Services
97. Mahamudra (MMDFX)
98. Forex Chief
99. ATA Markets
100. Juze Investment
101. CP Markets (CooperMarkets.com)
102. FDX Capital (fdxcap.com)
103. Vextrader
104. Arotrade
105. MFM Group
106. Starling Gold Asset Management HK
107. SamTradeFX
108. Victory Trade International (VTFX)
109. Zentrade (NET89)
110. MaxGlobalFX (NET89)
111. Global Premier (NET89)
112. iAL Group
113. EOB Corporation (TriumphFX)
114. GFS Asia (Janis Urste)
115. Grex Capital
116. Trivial Capital (Grex)
117. Raffles Market FX
118. GST HUB
119. Sky Markets



List of Genuine CRYPTOS
1. Bitcoin
2. Bitcoin Cash
3. Ripple
4. Ethereum
5. Litecoin
6. Dash
7. Neo
8. EOS
9. Qtum
10. Ontology
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14.
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List of Suspicious CRYPTO Companies (SCAM!)

1. OneCoin
2. WoToken
3. S Block
4. Plus Token
5. Sixmos
6. Emas Fintech
7. Crypto Grand Trade FX
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In case you have invested or trading with any of the scam brokers above, try your very best to withdraw your money back ASAP. If you can't take out your money, file a report or complaint to your local regulator. In most cases, it does not help as scam brokers do not hold any licenses and end up regulators unable to trace them.

Feel free to share your experiences with any other brokers and allow us to add on to above lists.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC. icon_question.gif

Moderator, please do not move this topic to join with general Forex spread as it will served as a WARNING to those new to Forex. Thank you.
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post May 5 2021, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(ongjinyang @ May 5 2021, 11:11 AM)

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There's a company EOB corporation, number 113. Is this the same company as EOB infinity? Thanks.
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post May 5 2021, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(terrytan @ May 5 2021, 02:53 AM)
Normally backtest do not come with slippages that usually happened on real live market.
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The one I’m buying it’s a swing trading one . Should it be fine ?
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QUOTE(ongjinyang @ May 5 2021, 11:12 AM)
There's a company EOB corporation, number 113. Is this the same company as EOB infinity? Thanks.
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Both EOB corporation and EOB infinity are TriumphFX new SCAM scheme. devil.gif devil.gif devil.gif
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post May 5 2021, 07:50 PM

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vesbolt is is fund management, it work with some brokers might be "scammer" as in the list, that mean potential vesbolt is partner with scammer?

What is different with other fund management?

Thanks


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post May 5 2021, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(Victorng13 @ May 5 2021, 07:50 PM)
vesbolt is is fund management, it work with some brokers might be "scammer" as in the list, that mean potential vesbolt is partner with scammer?

What is different with other fund management?

Thanks


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Hi Victorng13,

May i know which brokers are on the scammer list? I didnt noticed that VESBOLT work with any brokers on scammer list.
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QUOTE(terrytan @ May 5 2021, 09:22 PM)
Hi Victorng13,

May i know which brokers are on the scammer list? I didnt noticed that VESBOLT work with any brokers on scammer list.
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post May 5 2021, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(Victorng13 @ May 5 2021, 08:33 PM)
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Hi Victorng13,

Do you notice that it's a list of GENUINE FX Brokers? It means NOT SCAM.

This post has been edited by terrytan: May 5 2021, 08:54 PM
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post May 5 2021, 09:27 PM

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Hi Victorng13,

Do you notice that it's a list of GENUINE FX Brokers? It means NOT SCAM.
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status : "Any FX companies matched at least 2 of above indications, it is a potential SCAM. If matched 3 of the above indications, then it is definitely a SCAM!" & highlight red with broker. i wrote work with some brokers might be "scammer" as in the list.


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QUOTE(Victorng13 @ May 5 2021, 09:27 PM)
status : "Any FX companies matched at least 2 of above indications, it is a potential SCAM. If matched 3 of the above indications, then it is definitely a SCAM!" & highlight red with broker. i wrote work with some brokers might be "scammer" as in the list.
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status : "Any FX companies matched at least 2 of above indications, it is a potential SCAM. If matched 3 of the above indications, then it is definitely a SCAM!" & highlight red with broker.

This sentence is talking about the indications above, not below. Our bad, we have draw a line to separate the contents. We believe highlight red is because those brokers added URL for those interested to open accounts. This is why your browser show red. We shall try to fix the brokers font color. notworthy.gif

We dont see any issue with the brokers that VESBOLT is working with. console.gif
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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 5 2021, 10:39 PM)
status : "Any FX companies matched at least 2 of above indications, it is a potential SCAM. If matched 3 of the above indications, then it is definitely a SCAM!" & highlight red with broker.

This sentence is talking about the indications above, not below. Our bad, we have draw a line to separate the contents. We believe highlight red is because those brokers added URL for those interested to open accounts. This is why your browser show red. We shall try to fix the brokers font color.  notworthy.gif

We dont see any issue with the brokers that VESBOLT is working with.  console.gif
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ok. Thanks.

I saw few traders drawdown is high, continuously performance negative & no consistency.. May i know what happen?
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QUOTE(Victorng13 @ May 5 2021, 09:59 PM)
ok. Thanks.

I saw few traders drawdown is high, continuously performance negative & no consistency.. May i know what happen?
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Hi Victorng13,

If you are looking for genuine trading, drawdown is part of the trading, only fake trading has no drawdown.

VESBOLT also have many good profitable and consistent portfolio strategies. I think you missed that. In genuine FX, there is no way to guaranteed 100% profits every month like FAKE FOREX. Every portfolio strategies come with profitable and drawdown period. Every month market conditions are different.

Currently we are offering 11 portfolio strategies with 100% transparency. If you looking for 100% profitable records, i think it's only exist on fake trading like TriumphFX, MIA, IGOFX, CP Markets, SamTradeFX, Sentratama, etc.

May be you can tell me what you looking for or what's your intention?
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QUOTE(terrytan @ May 5 2021, 11:09 PM)
Hi Victorng13,

If you are looking for genuine trading, drawdown is part of the trading, only fake trading has no drawdown.

VESBOLT also have many good profitable and consistent portfolio strategies. I think you missed that. In genuine FX, there is no way to guaranteed 100% profits every month like FAKE FOREX. Every portfolio strategies come with profitable and drawdown period. Every month market conditions are different.

Currently we are offering 11 portfolio strategies with 100% transparency. If you looking for 100% profitable records, i think it's only exist on fake trading like TriumphFX, MIA, IGOFX, CP Markets, SamTradeFX, Sentratama, etc.

May be you can tell me what you looking for or what's your intention?
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No expect 100% profitable or awesome record, understand on 2%-5% nett roi on trader strategies & risk management.. but is reasonable as drawdown more than 20%?

How to assessment on strategies & risk management if continuously few months negative performance?
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QUOTE(Victorng13 @ May 5 2021, 10:40 PM)
No expect 100% profitable or awesome record, understand on 2%-5% nett roi on trader strategies & risk management.. but is reasonable as drawdown more than 20%? 

How to assessment on strategies & risk management if continuously few months negative performance?
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For genuine trading, we talk about 1 year performance, not by months. This is not get rich quick scheme. FX Trading need times especially when going through drawdown period. Many people have wrong expectation about FX after the fake FX flooded in Malaysia. They think FX trading should be making profits immediately or must be consistently gain every month, no such thing in genuine FX, it's only exist in fake FX.

20-30% drawdown is very normal in FX trading if you are looking for 2-5% returns a month. If you are looking for higher returns, the drawdown can go much higher. Drawdown in FX is very common for trading with leverage. Without drawdown, there will be no profit. There are 2 types of drawdown, either realise loss or floating loss.

I have been in FX for more than 15 years now. Trust me, there is no FX trading without drawdown except FAKE FX. I believe there are many traders here can tell you it is impossible to have no drawdown to generate profits. It is like hoping for every stocks that you buy immediately goes up without fall short.

Set the expectation right, then you are good to go.
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QUOTE(Victorng13 @ May 5 2021, 10:40 PM)
No expect 100% profitable or awesome record, understand on 2%-5% nett roi on trader strategies & risk management.. but is reasonable as drawdown more than 20%? 

How to assessment on strategies & risk management if continuously few months negative performance?
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If there are few negative months, that's obviously the portfolio manager is going through drawdown period. This is normal. That's why we always talk about yearly return instead of monthly. Some quarter may be bad, others could be much better. Many Malaysian investors are impatient, they assess traders performance with 3 months time like HYIP or moneygame. This is completely wrong.

Investors should take at least 1 year to assess a trader performance, if it does not meet your expectation, you can decide to stop and switch to other portfolio strategies.

Before investing, ask yourself how much risk you can take. 20% 30% 40%? If only 10-20%, then FX is not for you. I wont ask you to waste your time either. FX investment should be only for fund that you can afford to lose. If you have USD100k, and you think 10% is the fund that you can risk, then invest only USD10k. And diversify among few portfolio strategies to minimise the risk and maximise your returns.

This post has been edited by terrytan: May 5 2021, 11:33 PM
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post May 7 2021, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(terrytan @ May 5 2021, 11:23 PM)
They think FX trading should be making profits immediately or must be consistently gain every month, no such thing in genuine FX, it's only exist in fake FX.
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... eh... your sig pic shows profit every month... must be scam!!!... /s

good reply as always from you thumbup.gif

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