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post Apr 24 2017, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 24 2017, 08:38 PM)
For dividend investing
http://dividendmachines.com

Few others stuff
http://deepvaluedetector.com
http://investmentquadrant.com

Each course cost about SGD300 with lifetime updates. If I were to pick one, most likely Dividend machines.
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thanks for the info
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post Apr 24 2017, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 24 2017, 08:38 PM)
For dividend investing
http://dividendmachines.com

Few others stuff
http://deepvaluedetector.com
http://investmentquadrant.com

Each course cost about SGD300 with lifetime updates. If I were to pick one, most likely Dividend machines.
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SGD 300 is pricey!

Did you sign up for it ? was it worth ?



*On the other hand, the dow opened up around 200points higher and if it closes high, i guess bursa should be green all the way tomorrow ?
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post Apr 24 2017, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Apr 24 2017, 09:59 PM)
SGD 300 is pricey!

Did you sign up for it ? was it worth ?
*On the other hand, the dow opened up around 200points higher and if it closes high, i guess bursa should be green all the way tomorrow ?
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Apa pricey? For singaporeans it's just like RM300 for them. For us ya la it's pricey. RM300 vs RM600+ (the one posted by nemozai) for them it's not pricey.
No. Because it's more than a day course. Not going to stay in SG. dry.gif
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post Apr 24 2017, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Apr 24 2017, 07:15 PM)
Is it the right time to get into the banking stocks now namely MAYBANK & CIMB or am i too late ?
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I don't know, you look where they were and where they are...if you think we can go back to our glory days + expansion in foreign operations, there may be room to run further. But it would be with little margin of safety.

If you are interested for the really long term, no harm. Banks give good dividends and grow with the broader country. But if you want a short term run up, not sure if this is where you want to be.

I generally think the KLCI stocks don't have much room to grow relative to FBM70/SCAP stocks, but I did get Tenaga the other day due to how it's undervalued (you may have seen my other thread about it).

If you want to look for a finance stock, maybe insurance-related stocks can offer better upside.

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post Apr 25 2017, 09:41 AM

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guys, monitor MRCB, good FA and TA, low PE, high last Q earning etc

Tabung haji starts to buy back now.

Currently 1.6
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post Apr 25 2017, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Apr 24 2017, 12:31 AM)
I have doubt with books because I'm afraid some sections of those books from US may only apply to US stock market. Does this happen to be the case?
Can these two books be apply in our market? Thanks for your guidance  notworthy.gif

The Intelligent Investor: The Definitive Book on Value Investing. A Book of Practical Counsel (Revised Edition)
Security Analysis, Sixth Edition (Leather Bound Edition)
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Financial analysis basically is rather the same across, but due to difference in corporate practice, culture, how management being run even company history etc, it may affect how the company is valued by investors aka how the share price performance.

Eg,
Base on financial figure, some so called "red chips" were super cheap and extreme value, hard to resist.
Share price Rm0.10
NTA RM1.00
PE 1-3

Super duper undervalued and cheap.
But we know some of the outcome of it, despite look super duper cheap on paper.

Investing is not a science formula like everytime 1+1 must be equal to 2.

Today ABC company may be highly valued, but few years later due to obsolete/change in technology, change of favour of consumer pattern etc, its value can diminish quickly one.
We never know. This is something any book won't able tell us one.

In stock market, whenever we are paying a share price level, we are buying the company "future" not buying the past.
While the flaw of financial analysis is we are buying based on the figure that already happened aka the past.

So there is some "art" in investing as well.
Figure serves as guidance, but not a definite factor.

Some old timers using "art" or "instinct" of investing, only investing in some well known good management company that always rewarding the shareholders.
They do pretty well in the stock market, in fact may earn a fortune with long term holding.

While another person may be always punching figure doing PE, NTA count, financial analysis ended up bought tons of so called "red chip".


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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 25 2017, 10:16 AM)
I'm back from Bora Bora! biggrin.gif
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apa tu bora bora. mana lu pergi o.
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post Apr 25 2017, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Apr 25 2017, 10:18 AM)
apa tu bora bora. mana lu pergi o.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 25 2017, 10:21 AM)
I gaduh with Rempits at /k bruce.gif
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why they hit your city?
this year alot of new member rushing into stock market man.
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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Apr 25 2017, 10:23 AM)
why they hit your city?
this year alot of new member rushing into stock market man.
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/k = Kopitiam LYN la doh.gif

With my rather conservative portfolio rising almost 3% in 1 month...it's not hard to see why we have so many new bulls biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 25 2017, 10:26 AM)
/k = Kopitiam LYN la doh.gif

With my rather conservative portfolio rising almost 3% in 1 month...it's not hard to see why we have so many new bulls biggrin.gif
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cheh thought you fight with mat rempit -.-

I only wish for >15% for FY2017 tongue.gif
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post Apr 25 2017, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 25 2017, 10:26 AM)
/k = Kopitiam LYN la doh.gif

With my rather conservative portfolio rising almost 3% in 1 month...it's not hard to see why we have so many new bulls biggrin.gif
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walouwei..why u kena bora bora wan
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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Apr 25 2017, 10:37 AM)
walouwei..why u kena bora bora wan
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post Apr 25 2017, 11:20 AM

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I re-entered TENAGA today.

Sifu Gark posted picture that TENAGA gave free multi cooker during AGM. This is a good incentive for me to buy. tongue.gif

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post Apr 25 2017, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 25 2017, 10:06 AM)
Financial analysis basically is rather the same across, but due to difference in corporate practice, culture, how management being run even company history etc, it may affect how the company is valued by investors aka how the share price performance.

Eg,
Base on financial figure, some so called "red chips" were super cheap and extreme value, hard to resist.
Share price Rm0.10
NTA RM1.00
PE 1-3

Super duper undervalued and cheap.
But we know some of the outcome of it, despite look super duper cheap on paper.

Investing is not a science formula like everytime 1+1 must be equal to 2.

Today ABC company may be highly valued, but few years later due to obsolete/change in technology, change of favour of consumer pattern etc, its value can diminish quickly one. 
We never know. This is something any book won't able tell us one.

In stock market, whenever we are paying a share price level, we are buying the company "future" not buying the past.
While the flaw of financial analysis is we are buying based on the figure that already happened aka the past.

So there is some "art" in investing as well.
Figure serves as guidance, but not a definite factor.

Some old timers using "art" or "instinct" of investing, only investing in some well known good management company that always rewarding the shareholders.
They do pretty well in the stock market, in fact may earn a fortune with long term holding.

While another person may be always punching figure doing PE, NTA count, financial analysis ended up bought tons of so called "red chip".
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After some reading (I'm still noob I know), I believe that value investors do not invest only on super duper undervalued and cheap stock. What u mentioned here for those who ended up with "red chip" are because they are not interpreting the first component of value investing.

I think it comes down to 2 components:
1. First, find a good company
2. Then only we proceed to calculate it's intrinsic value based on whatever formula (and this intrinsic value is just an assumption, not a perfect number. We must act based on imperfect assumptions hmm.gif )

This post has been edited by Nemozai: Apr 25 2017, 11:26 AM
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post Apr 25 2017, 12:21 PM

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Anyone know's why air asia x is up today ?
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 25 2017, 11:20 AM)
I re-entered TENAGA today.

Sifu Gark posted picture that TENAGA gave free multi cooker during AGM. This is a good incentive for me to buy.  tongue.gif
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post Apr 25 2017, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 25 2017, 01:38 PM)
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Mengapa muka monyok? You don't like multi cooker? 😃

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 25 2017, 01:55 PM)
Mengapa muka monyok? You don't like multi cooker? 😃
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Of course I like, I sometimes use it to dry my girlfriend(s)' panties in an emergency. brows.gif

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