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 Investors Club V9, Previously known as Traders Kopitiam

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gark
post Mar 6 2017, 01:54 PM

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Since so many people interested in power... no one look at YTLP ah?

Even since they has their MY power license expiry, the risk of this counter has reduced dramatically. And now the price already reflects actual earnings without the MY power contribution.

Assets
Wessex Water - Earning GBP, govt mandated monopoly
Seraya Power - selling power in SGD, based on supply/demand
Java Power - stake in coal fired java plant supplying to PLN on long term contract, will build another plant in java tengah. ID is expected to need 35,000 GW capacity expansion in future.
Jordan Power - possible divestment to china group
YES - 4G provider in Malaysia
PG Power - contract expired, plant not running, no earning since 2Q2016. Under nego with TNB on land rental expiry and short term contract. Plant is still in good condition, can be sold off.

Pro : New power plant in Java (new project, more income), Divestment of Jordan power (cash in), Wessex water consistent contributor. Good dividend >6%. Cash rich (10 billion cash) for future projects. Possible winner for singapore water desalination plant tender (leverage Power seraya excess heat FOC).

Cons : Competitive power pricing in SG, YES is still losing money, PG plant not running

This post has been edited by gark: Mar 6 2017, 01:59 PM
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post Mar 6 2017, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 6 2017, 06:06 PM)
Cepat moved 10% since last mentioned  rclxm9.gif
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Hahaha totally forgot about it.. you bought? tongue.gif
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post Mar 6 2017, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 6 2017, 06:33 PM)
yup, now the dilemma is where to sell, perhaps you or anyone can help out smile.gif

will ask you more like these if you don't mind  icon_rolleyes.gif smile.gif
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Sell when CPO price going downhill..... brows.gif

Not that difficult to monitor.. tongue.gif

I just got time to see the cepat group.. 100% plantation in Sabah.. golden location for CPO. rclxms.gif

But got quite a number of old trees ... not so productive. tongue.gif

PE not too bad.

Sekian... laugh.gif

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post Mar 7 2017, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(Tzalikiar @ Mar 6 2017, 11:28 PM)
Hi there, guys! I am new to trading, and need some help from you. First of all, what do you recommend to start from? I have found some academies like that one and want to try it out soon. Have you used such help for you or learned everything on your own?
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Forget all the courses and academies, waste of money.

Read up more investment books and practice trading on paper, best way to hone your skills.
gark
post Mar 7 2017, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 7 2017, 10:37 AM)
I nak play antagonist today. tongue.gif

Circumstances changes, economic conditions change, market sentiments change.

Let's say u paper trade during a bull market, basically buy apa rubbish pun win. U ingat u a hero liao. flex.gif

Then u take out all your FDs and savings and start to enter the "warzone" bruce.gif

Bear market lai liao rolleyes.gif

All your "paper trainings" go down the drain whistling.gif
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Haha you expert mah.. newbie let them start slowly lar... tongue.gif

Nowadays youngsters easy to give up.. one time hantam in market lost a few K and then give up investing forever.. seen many cases like this, from friends and family.

Even until now, my neice says REIT is a scam, just because she lost some money buying high and panic sell and lost money.. even i try to explain, dont want to listen. She rather put the money in a RHB private fund (through FSM).. doh.gif . Well educated yo, master in engineering from aussie. laugh.gif

Each time I talk about stock, uncle and aunties all give me the funny look... one even ask me go buy properties, dont waste money 'gambling' in stock market...over and over yawn.gif

Even my parents is skeptical... dun want to invest in a single sen.. say stock market cheat people one. sweat.gif

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post Mar 7 2017, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 7 2017, 10:52 AM)
5277
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FP.. apa cerita? tongue.gif

PE 30X yor.. sweat.gif

But got chance to up like penta..maybe.. laugh.gif

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post Mar 7 2017, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 7 2017, 11:00 AM)

P.S. - That REIT must be IGBREIT laugh.gif
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Yes, why you so smart one. brows.gif

So, try not to kaboom young investors ok? Guide them like your boss guide you.. tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2017, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 7 2017, 11:09 AM)
Can "paper invest" wan meh? tongue.gif

Same argument again...

U "paper invest" in quality companies...

Let's say during last time when USD strengthen...

U pick condom counter, u pick rubber glove counters, u pick furniture counters, wooden frame counter, basically all export counters...

Wah, your "imaginery profit" fat like pighead drool.gif

Then u ingat u stock God liao... innocent.gif

Mari, enter "warzone" lor bruce.gif

USD story ends... rolleyes.gif

What happened to those USD play counters lately? tongue.gif

Paper invest/trade my foot whistling.gif
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You need to paper invest until you kaboom your imaginary capital.. then only will learn mah. laugh.gif
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post Mar 7 2017, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 7 2017, 11:39 AM)
Not to pick on Unker gark, that day kan u orang discuss about itu apanama ascending triangle pattern?

Some say, it usually is a bullish pattern... rolleyes.gif

Then unker gark says, IF quarterly announcement looks ugly, it will kaboom fall down.

So, apa conclusion? That apanama chart pattern can end up go further up, CAN ALSO end up drop like fall down from Genting cliff. tongue.gif

It's like u go to a fortune teller ask about your luck...

"Boss, your luck har...maybe tomorrow u kena 4D, maybe tomorrow u no kena 4D...both ways also can happen. Ok, RM100 please for consultation." biggrin.gif

U want hantam him or not? laugh.gif
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For me when pick stocks, FA first..MUST pass my criteria, then only look at TA for ENTRY and EXIT only...

New FA Criteria, for 2017 investing.. lets see the results. bruce.gif

dividend growth strategy (replace old cigar butt, value investing strategy)

1. Stock must make more money next year
2. Stock must pay more dividend next year
3. Stock must have higher net margin next year
4. Stock must have PE < 20
5. Stock must have dividend >2%

TA - entry at support / breakout
TA - exit at breakdown / ceiling
2Q no improvement in results .. sell.

No need so complicated....lots of rules etc, keep it simple only. tongue.gif

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post Mar 7 2017, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 7 2017, 11:54 AM)
This post...should be pinned at Post #1 thumbup.gif

I see Vanguard 2015 punya siggy I want rclxub.gif
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Edit a bit already, forgot 1 criteria... tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2017, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 7 2017, 12:01 PM)
how do you predict next year numbers?
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That requires macro economics research and looking at the trend ... can come from multiple sources.

You need to check info/news their production, commodity price, market feedback, plant expansion, analyst report, rumors, forex rate.. and mostly common sense. tongue.gif Investing is more ART then SCIENCE..

Not one source is ultimate, but take it all together into a matrix and you have a pretty good picture. 1 counter can take me up to a week to decide.

Sure you cannot predict 100%, who can? But at least you can make an educated bet. laugh.gif

If bet wrong, get out BEFORE it gets ugly and try other counter lo... wink.gif
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post Mar 7 2017, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Mar 7 2017, 05:10 PM)
Last time value investing strategy suggest PE below 10 right?

Your criteria of 2Q no improvement, is comparing its previous quarter or same quarter preceding year?

Thanks in advance
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Previous quarter. tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2017, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Mar 7 2017, 05:38 PM)
I din use cash ratio wan wo. Tak tahu leh lol
Normally to compare is a company making growth, do i need to compare annually, Q-Q or same quarter preceding year?
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Anyway you like it. can be Q to Q or annually.. tongue.gif

No right and wrong method.
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post Mar 7 2017, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 7 2017, 05:42 PM)
SKpetro and armada closing good today  rclxms.gif  drool.gif
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Haha yes, Armada almost breakeven for me.

Skpet already in the money.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Unload or not unload?, otherwise 3rd time miss the train liao.. hmm.gif

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post Mar 7 2017, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 7 2017, 05:52 PM)
Apa tu cash ratio unsure.gif
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The cash ratio is an indicator of a company's liquidity that further refines both the current ratio and the quick ratio by measuring the amount of cash, cash equivalents or invested funds there are in current assets to cover current liabilities


I also never use this ratio one... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Mar 7 2017, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 7 2017, 06:06 PM)
Aiya, academic ratio...almost useless in real life doh.gif
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Accountants like to use it a lot.. makes them like champion when presenting accounts. Use all kind of jargon...
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post Mar 7 2017, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 7 2017, 07:18 PM)
Noted Pink Spider. I am also eyeing Panamy at the moment. 😃
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LOL you have to decide you want to be divvy investor, long term investor, short term trader or chase whatever that is hot..... rclxub.gif

Gotta stick to one/two style otherwise your portfolio like rojak...

Now all stock going up is ok, happy happy bounce bounce.. everyone thinks they are super investor thumbup.gif

Later during stock market fall.. got nowhere to hide. Everyone cry here and there.. whistling.gif

So Better sharpen your skills now.. while you can and prepare for the worst. tongue.gif

just a friendly advice.. innocent.gif

Like what Buffett says..

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post Mar 7 2017, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Mar 7 2017, 08:49 PM)
guys, i bought this AFFIN-CU at 0.26.

Cabut at 0.35. Within 1 week cabut. Untung not much cause I dump in not more than 3k.

Actually what stock is this...
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Call warrant.

If dont know the calculation better dont play. Can lose 100% one...
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post Mar 7 2017, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(holybo @ Mar 7 2017, 09:43 PM)
if u see mine probably will  rclxub.gif  also  icon_question.gif
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Lol.. i thought u got few stocks only.

I usually keep less than 12 per market.. tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2017, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Mar 7 2017, 09:42 PM)
ya i can see, goes up very fast comes down very fast., i lose some at Ambank-CX though.
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Not the type of stocks you play if you are new to stock investing.

No different compared to genting.

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