QUOTE(befitozi @ Apr 10 2007, 02:43 PM)
Example?Discussion who's dive the most?, EPL players who dive the most in game
Discussion who's dive the most?, EPL players who dive the most in game
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Apr 10 2007, 02:46 PM
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Jun 20 2007, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(befitozi @ Jun 20 2007, 08:22 PM) aih WTF?? Go to youtube and search for Jonah Lomu. That guy does 100 meters in 10 seconds. And he doesn't fall over at the slightest hint of contact. In fact, he brushes of defenders for fun. And mind you, thats in rugby. So all this crap about running so fast that a small rock would fukking make him fall is just bollocks. If that is physics, you would see me flying off the twin towers tomorrow.at the speed ronaldo is running , even something as small as a piece of rock that hit his leg , he will go flying tumbling down. Learn physics. |
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Jun 21 2007, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE(befitozi @ Jun 21 2007, 01:11 AM) aiyo ... i posted a short thing nia ... But the problem is, more than half of the time, is not the ankles. Defenders just have to brush him a little and he will roll over. And mind you, he is not that small. He is at least 6 feet and 75kgs. fine i say full When you run at that speed , try having something knock you at say , your ankle , i dont think you will have enough strenght to remain in balance AND keep control of the ball DONT compare rugby to football. Look at his body build man. Ronaldo is so skinny compared to rugby players. AND , if Ronaldo were to 'strongly' brush of defenders, he will get a foul against him. Dont say its ok to be given a foul against. And comparing this issue with rugby is appropriate IMHO. In rugby, you get contact by a defender and you try your best to go forward still because you know you will get nothing if you fall. Just keep in mind that its so much easier to fall when you are tackled rugby style compared to the football tackle. But in football, a lot of players tend to fall over anytime there is a slight contact because it rewards the action. This goes to show that if a player wants to, he could have continue, but because of it is just so much easier to roll over and get a freekick rather than following through like a man, players tend to choose the former option. |
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Jun 21 2007, 03:28 AM
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Jun 21 2007, 01:58 AM) And did I say otherwise? QUOTE(befitozi @ Jun 21 2007, 03:03 AM) As of now , 90% of the times Ronaldo gets fouled , he goes on. I've missed none but 3 of ManUtd's games , and each of those games that Ronaldo played , there is at least 2 or 3 times he was clearly fouled but keep going on. Well, then that would be at least 10% or 33% of the time he would actually simulate (don't you just love that word |
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Jun 21 2007, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jun 21 2007, 03:47 AM) Are u comparing this: The point I am trying to prove with the comparision to Lomu is, being speedy does not mean you would fall at the slightest hint of contact. Lomu is used as comparision because he perfectly illustrates this point although he is a bit of an extream example. And yes, I am comparing rugby and football because as far as I know, the rule of physics does not change after the All Blacks scare the shit out of kids in front of the TV right before the game. Please refer to the original post I and what I was replying to before jumping around going holier than thou again.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « to this? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « oh come on! u do know the different betwen them arent u? Lomu is waayyy bigger than Ronaldo.. it's like comparing KLCC building with KL Tower (apart from the height) u know.. in football it's like comparing Gattuso with Ronaldo.. Ronaldo is not really a physical player compared to Gattuso.. Ronaldo and Lomu are speedy player but Lomu is a physical player, Ronaldo is not.. so speed and weight is related and weight is related to balance.. if Ronaldo has both i call him as a perfect player coz he has both speed and balance .. to @bwan.. Why would i defend another player playing for another club? if Ronaldo at another club.. i would admit he's a diver too.. coz at Man Utd i have no problem calling him a diver.. and diver & actor on the pitch are different thing.. i'm refering to Drogba who has both.. Conclusion: A lot of players, not only Ronaldo, could actually stay up during challenges but instead chooses to fall over because its more rewarding and convenient. |
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Jun 21 2007, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jun 21 2007, 09:58 AM) From ur sentence up there i can conclude ur main point is in the bolded sentence as ur remaining point i dont understand a single bit what u're trying to say.. RED is the color.Get a dictionary or something then. Not gonna discuss abou t physic or rugby or whatever again.. but last word.. it's related, running with full speed, slight contact BAM u fall down.. it's related.. not all players are balanced enough.. try to see the speed of F1 car.. what happen when the car being 'touch' from behind or anywhere.. Well, even F1 cars does not roll over when they get clipped. Most of the time they lose noses or tyres. and dont tell me u never saw a player running at full speed then fall down with a slight contact.. that means u never watch football.. I've seen. Most of the time I just call them cheating cun*s sigh.. if u really a fan of Man Utd and Ronaldo i think u'll understand speed and fall down after slight contact is related.. he's not choosing to fall over all the time.. if he is he never scored the most goals and assist the most goal in Man Utd.. Sorry. Me no MU fans. Me no understand speeds fall fall. Me see you in Beijing Olympic pool next year ok? Added on June 21, 2007, 11:00 am QUOTE(air_mood @ Jun 21 2007, 10:49 AM) Do you have friends who plays as a fullback or winger in rugby?? I used to play prop so it does not applpy to me but wingers and fullbacks, they are usually smaller than most...so the ankle tapping thing applies a lot to them, especially against bigger opponents. I dont do ankle tapping cause I'm a big enough bugger but I had it done to me before. And trust me, in my experience of playing rugby usually a slight tap on the ankles will get you falling over when you're running at full speed as it disrupts your balance and there's no point diving in rugby aint there cause you're just wasting time, it's part of the game.. That Lomu comparison is cack because for starters Lomu shrugs people off. If you watch him during his playing days, he does a lot of hand offs, and people rarely gets to his legs unless when they gang up on him. That touchline is like a straight run for him, using his hand offs and momentum to get past people. So the comparison between a running, charging bulldozer and a football winger is far off IMO. Yup. I have friends that plays 14 and 15. But most of the time they rather go in low from the sides. More chance for success. Ankle tapping doesn't work most of the time.The bolded part: Thats my point exactly! Thats why you see far less players in rugby falling over at contact. Whereby in football, you get rewarded, thus there is a very high tendency to just roll over. The bait is there. And some of the players are seen taking the bait more than once and then they or their fans would defend them by blaming that they are too fast. Which I think is bollocks. This post has been edited by Monstar: Jun 21 2007, 11:00 AM |
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Jun 21 2007, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jun 21 2007, 11:26 AM) Going low from the sides usually only happens when you get sidestepped and the probability of being handed off by going from the sides is very high. Hence why you see a lot of people getting handed off when they go against the man mountain that is Jonah Lomu. Hell, even the likes of Nonu, Rokococko and Umaga does that a lot. Ankle tapping is the most simple solution and is usually a last resort but it is very effective irregardless of the size of opponent the problem is the need of timing or to actually make sure you swipe the ankles. A slight swipe will you get you falling over. So yes, minimal contact when you're going at full speed still get you over. Like I've said I had it done to me before cause when I used to play rugby, stopping me head on might be a bid of a problem cause I use mybody and momentum a lot to knock people over. OK. Lets continue the first and second paragraph in the Rugby thread instead.I have no idea who came up with this quote but was told to me by my rugby coach. "Football is a gentlemen's game, played by hooligans. Rugby is a hooligan's game, played by gentlemen." In the issue of takign baits, what's your take on Gerrard's winning the penalty against Sheffield in both games?? As for Stevie, I think he overreacted to the challenges. I wasn't the happiest when we got the penalty. Of course, I still love Stevie mainly because of my heavily tinted red glasses. QUOTE(befitozi @ Jun 21 2007, 12:05 PM) You obviously havent been watching manutd matches No. You think I am that free? Go around watching compilations of Ronaldo diving. Mate I have better things to do. i bet all you watch were news reports and video compilations of how much ronaldo is a 'cheater' bla bla bla' to add to all that , of all of ronaldo's past dives , he NEVER ONCE feign injury to get others sent off , unlike some others no point i continue here , bye Bold: Ermm, winky winky? What I am trying to say is, defending a diver by saying he is just too fast has has no balance is plain stupid. Yes, they would lose balance, but flying like he just got hit by a truck? No way. PS: I am not talking about Ronaldo only. Fans of CR, don't be so sensitive. |
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