correct me if i'm wrong, but calculations are based on 20 days (monday - friday, 4 weeks, including return)
LRT/Monorail monthly/weekly pass is a joke?
LRT/Monorail monthly/weekly pass is a joke?
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Nov 9 2015, 12:14 AM, updated 11y ago
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So ayam and my friend did some calculations because no more 30 days unlimited travel pass, we found out that after the weekly/30days discount, it is more expensive than using it without pass
correct me if i'm wrong, but calculations are based on 20 days (monday - friday, 4 weeks, including return) |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:16 AM
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Yes it is a joke...u try
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Nov 9 2015, 12:18 AM
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Help me do calculation also on Sri Petaling-TBS-Masjid Jamek-KL sentral
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Nov 9 2015, 12:18 AM
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so...u r saying that using the card is more expensive thn using without?
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Nov 9 2015, 12:19 AM
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I don't get it why we need to pay them the card fee.
Are they going to charge us for not queueing to buy ticket? And if I use touch and go? Will it be considered cash less? Needs card fee too? |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:19 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 12:20 AM
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their calculation is based on 30D but disadvantage for 20D
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Nov 9 2015, 12:20 AM
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mthly pass can use on sat n sun too...
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Nov 9 2015, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(hirano @ Nov 9 2015, 12:18 AM) lel~ do yourself hahah Monthly - http://www.myrapid.com.my/sites/default/fi...ble_smart30.pdf Weekly - http://www.myrapid.com.my/sites/default/fi...able_smart7.pdf Cashless (touch n go card) - http://www.myrapid.com.my/sites/default/fi...le_cashless.pdf |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:21 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 12:22 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 12:22 AM
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malaysia train system is a joke, from ampang to wangsa maju need pay 2 train price separately and total duration is around 1 hour.
take uber more cheaper and faster. |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:22 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Nov 9 2015, 12:22 AM) malaysia train system is a joke, from ampang to wangsa maju need pay 2 train price separately and total duration is around 1 hour. The WHOLE public transport system is a joke, i need a bus ride + train to reach college, and i spend 1.5 hour averagely a day on the roadtake uber more cheaper and faster. personally while using the unlimited 30 days pass it was pretty worth it, but now |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:25 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 12:27 AM
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I preferred touch n go card instead.
Usable for toll, some shops, lrt, ktm. Compared to rapidcard which limited to their own services. Yeah its a joke too. |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(Boom Mortar @ Nov 9 2015, 12:25 AM) er...my younger brother study college will use mon-sun, Lol~ replacement classes on sunday is kinda sad... ofcos sun is seldom but sometimes got replacement classes but yeah if it's from Monday to Sunday then probably you'll save somewhere around RM10 per month... but still it's way too less that what we can save with the old pass |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:30 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Nov 9 2015, 12:27 AM) I preferred touch n go card instead. I dont really get why rapidpass and touch n go has to be separated too... I tried my rapidpass on a toll before... didnt end up well Usable for toll, some shops, lrt, ktm. Compared to rapidcard which limited to their own services. Yeah its a joke too. since my pass expired last month I've been using touch n go now |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:32 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 12:35 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 12:37 AM
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Ooo I get it, touch and go is considered cash less.
I think their plan will back fire since more people will go for touch and go, and not using rapidkl card. Basically if we use rapidkl card, not only we put our money in the card in advance (and let them invest on the money), we also need to pay them extra. Brilliant? |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:37 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Nov 9 2015, 12:37 AM) No prob! forumers must unite and stop this nonsense from RapidKL lol perhaps we'll see less treads on Garage Sales COD area - Any LRT/Monorail Stations, to xxx station lol... QUOTE(billylks @ Nov 9 2015, 12:37 AM) Ooo I get it, touch and go is considered cash less. Yeap, cashless is prob counted as Touch N Go... and hell no, never use Rapidpass... never works when you hop on the bus I think their plan will back fire since more people will go for touch and go, and not using rapidkl card. Basically if we use rapidkl card, not only we put our money in the card in advance (and let them invest on the money), we also need to pay them extra. Brilliant? especially when you hear the 'please try again' sound... damn annoying This post has been edited by jxsonl: Nov 9 2015, 12:44 AM |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:43 AM
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I personally calculated, for students/working people (travel two way on weekdays)
The price difference between the cashless & monthly must at least be rm0.30 for it to actually give a discount. The actual thing i don't understand is the rates. The whole journey is cheaper when it is further (eg. Gombak -> KL sentral same price with Gombak -> Kelana Jaya) |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:45 AM
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The whole fare increase is a joke itself..and yes. If u use those pass anywhere less than 25days u stand to lose money.
But wat to so..complete monopoly..u x suka drive urself |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(winter01942 @ Nov 9 2015, 12:43 AM) I personally calculated, for students/working people (travel two way on weekdays) Did not check for that... RapidKL is definitely playing jokes on us The price difference between the cashless & monthly must at least be rm0.30 for it to actually give a discount. The actual thing i don't understand is the rates. The whole journey is cheaper when it is further (eg. Gombak -> KL sentral same price with Gombak -> Kelana Jaya) Weird and confusing discount rates some more... |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE(billylks @ Nov 9 2015, 12:37 AM) Basically if we use rapidkl card, not only we put our money in the card in advance (and let them invest on the money), we also need to pay them extra. Brilliant? You don't have to pay them extraThe only benefit is its easier to top up rapidkl cards as some places like masjid jamek (interchange between 2 LRTs FFS) has no TnG top up And a big nono for busses as stated by jxsonl QUOTE(jxsonl @ Nov 9 2015, 12:46 AM) Did not check for that... RapidKL is definitely playing jokes on us It works like this (simplified version)Weird and confusing discount rates some more... there's a fixed amount which is charged when you get on ( like taxi ) Then if your destination is less than 'x' km away, each km is charged RM 'y' But if your destination is more than 'x' km away, each km is charged less than RM'y', therefore making it cheaper This post has been edited by winter01942: Nov 9 2015, 12:53 AM |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:54 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(epicfailguy @ Nov 9 2015, 12:54 AM) these cards are targetted at working/studying segment who uses it to commute daily. i dont get your comment... i study monday - friday ( enough to count as studying..? workers/students dont work/study everyday. workers also dont work everyday monday - sunday? most of my working friends work from monday to friday and saturday halfday |
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Nov 9 2015, 12:58 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(jxsonl @ Nov 9 2015, 12:58 AM) i dont get your comment... i study monday - friday ( enough to count as studying..? most of the companies work on mon-fri. sat usually just drive straight to office then go shopping, drinking, eating etc etcworkers also dont work everyday monday - sunday? most of my working friends work from monday to friday and saturday halfday you count the working weekdays la QUOTE(Baconateer @ Nov 9 2015, 12:58 AM) if u use it every single day..thn is good for u..but for others...it is not...but the savings..as u say..really really negligible... not many will use it every single day bcos public transport coverage still sucks. |
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Nov 9 2015, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(jxsonl @ Nov 9 2015, 12:22 AM) I'm doing it base on my college study days, 5 days a week, plus weekends i dont really go out often if working in jalan sultan ismail or klcc or even kl sental which fully congested?Not sure about working people, but most of my working adult friends drives or work mon - fri you got those fren there? |
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Nov 9 2015, 01:03 AM
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I wonder if i can snipe a Student Rapidpass on the end of Nov
The price hike makes my monthly commute go close to RM200 per month at least i pay RM100 for december |
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Nov 9 2015, 01:04 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(dewill @ Nov 9 2015, 01:03 AM) if working in jalan sultan ismail or klcc or even kl sental which fully congested? Yes got, maxis office around KL centralyou got those fren there? or tropicana mall, which has to drive back to wangsa maju area or hang tuah area back to putrajaya/cyberjaya most of them drive havent heard any of my working friends take train maybe got some, but most of the one that i'm close to drives This post has been edited by jxsonl: Nov 9 2015, 01:06 AM |
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QUOTE(jxsonl @ Nov 9 2015, 01:06 AM) Yes got, maxis office around KL central Usually due to parking.or tropicana mall, which has to drive back to wangsa maju area or hang tuah area back to putrajaya/cyberjaya most of them drive havent heard any of my working friends take train maybe got some, but most of the one that i'm close to drives If there is reasonable parking then people drive Some places in city center hard to get parking (for those non exec without reserved parking) And also is the person able to afford a car ofc.. |
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Nov 9 2015, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE(jxsonl @ Nov 9 2015, 01:06 AM) Yes got, maxis office around KL central ur fren could be manager lvl and above. rich fagor tropicana mall, which has to drive back to wangsa maju area or hang tuah area back to putrajaya/cyberjaya most of them drive havent heard any of my working friends take train maybe got some, but most of the one that i'm close to drives |
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Nov 9 2015, 02:33 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 02:53 AM
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Nov 9 2015, 12:27 AM) I preferred touch n go card instead. Yeah me tooUsable for toll, some shops, lrt, ktm. Compared to rapidcard which limited to their own services. Yeah its a joke too. It like having a debit card that can be use anywhere My Rapid probably dont want to pay commission to TnG And reap all money they could with their own system |
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Nov 9 2015, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(winter01942 @ Nov 9 2015, 12:49 AM) You don't have to pay them extra Yes, we are paying the extra RM10 charge monthly.The only benefit is its easier to top up rapidkl cards as some places like masjid jamek (interchange between 2 LRTs FFS) has no TnG top up And a big nono for busses as stated by jxsonl Think about this, if you are using Touchngo card, you are charged Rm0.50 per upload (maybe free at ATM), and the most it will cost you is Rm2.00 if you upload money 4 times a month. With this rapidkl monthly card, baamm RM10.00 one time. I don't see the justification on paying RM10 because some stations dont have Touchngo top up service, I rather pay using money if it happens that my toucngo card is empty. RAGE! |
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Nov 9 2015, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(jxsonl @ Nov 9 2015, 12:19 AM) nope, check their pricing spreadsheets. cash > TnG > weekly pass > monthly pass. the fare using passes are cheaper than TnG, but the downside is you'll hv to pay a card fee depending on which pass u use.QUOTE(billylks @ Nov 9 2015, 09:44 AM) Yes, we are paying the extra RM10 charge monthly. it actually depends on the places u commute. for me, monthly pass is cheaper (including the rm10 fee) than TnG.Think about this, if you are using Touchngo card, you are charged Rm0.50 per upload (maybe free at ATM), and the most it will cost you is Rm2.00 if you upload money 4 times a month. With this rapidkl monthly card, baamm RM10.00 one time. I don't see the justification on paying RM10 because some stations dont have Touchngo top up service, I rather pay using money if it happens that my toucngo card is empty. RAGE! i travel gombak -> klcc for work. let's say we hv 22 working days. monthly pass fare = rm2.80, return trip = rm5.60 TnG fare = rm3.10, return trip = rm6.20 total fare for, monthly pass = (rm5.60 x 22) + 10 = rm133.20 TnG = rm6.20 x 22 = rm136.40 i save rm3.20 monthly by using the pass. even though it's not much, i still pick the cheaper alternative |
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Nov 9 2015, 10:15 AM
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i just checked komuter monthly pass table far.
stupid monthly pass nakharom expensive >rm40 in comparison with cashless, at least at my destination. this is by calculation 2 rides per day for 20 days. |
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Nov 9 2015, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(jxsonl @ Nov 9 2015, 12:14 AM) So ayam and my friend did some calculations because no more 30 days unlimited travel pass, we found out that after the weekly/30days discount, it is more expensive than using it without pass It's not a joke. It is meant for frequent travellers. You travel distance too short or too less, your pasal. Just like you go supermarket, you must calculate whether it's worth it or not. Twin packs promotion doesn't neccessary means cheaper than one unit.correct me if i'm wrong, but calculations are based on 20 days (monday - friday, 4 weeks, including return) Be a smart consumer. Besides, our PM is very concerned for your kos sara hidup and hence introduce this plan for frequent travellers. ![]() |
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encourage us to use public transport,but pergi increase most of the stations price...
they know those increase wont affect much,that y they dare to increase the price. Rakyat have no choice but to pay for it. |
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Nov 9 2015, 10:36 AM
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Fffuu Bangsar to KLCC up 30 cents.
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Nov 9 2015, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(jxsonl @ Nov 9 2015, 12:14 AM) So ayam and my friend did some calculations because no more 30 days unlimited travel pass, we found out that after the weekly/30days discount, it is more expensive than using it without pass well i duno the rates though as i rarely take lrt. But still its better to take the weekly or monthly pass as you dont need to pay it everyday at the machine ma. Can save some time ma if you are rushing or what.correct me if i'm wrong, but calculations are based on 20 days (monday - friday, 4 weeks, including return) |
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QUOTE(billylks @ Nov 9 2015, 09:44 AM) Yes, we are paying the extra RM10 charge monthly. reload your TNG using your credit card and get the cashback instead.Think about this, if you are using Touchngo card, you are charged Rm0.50 per upload (maybe free at ATM), and the most it will cost you is Rm2.00 if you upload money 4 times a month. With this rapidkl monthly card, baamm RM10.00 one time. I don't see the justification on paying RM10 because some stations dont have Touchngo top up service, I rather pay using money if it happens that my toucngo card is empty. RAGE! read here |
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Nov 9 2015, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(jxsonl @ Nov 9 2015, 12:14 AM) So ayam and my friend did some calculations because no more 30 days unlimited travel pass, we found out that after the weekly/30days discount, it is more expensive than using it without pass Kalau u guna banyak2 berbaloi la correct me if i'm wrong, but calculations are based on 20 days (monday - friday, 4 weeks, including return) |
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