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Depends.. my boss have told me that I'm outright competing with the Indians...

Ft do get treated differently than local Sg.. rightly so, you are here because of your talents and it is competitive. At the end of the day, the cream always rises.

If your only purpose to buy a car is to drive back to kl, forget it.. better take bus or flight. Save u thousands every month.

Sg economy is not as rosy as you think.. sure, the exchange rate is good. But you are coming in under some really difficult circumstances.

For one, youll need a work permit, which costs a bomb and your job can be easily filled by a local.

Those of us here are probably cheap labour. And since you are competing with the Indians and Filipinos expect to work doubly hard.

Now combine this with miserable pay and living conditions, it's a guess why anyone wants to come here to slog it out. Haha

I've been searching for jobs back in kl. If one can offer my asking rate, I'll jump. Sg is not fun. No joke.

This post has been edited by the99percent1: Dec 15 2015, 01:35 PM

High salary also got eaten by rent. Unless you go rent a small room with two random..

I'm on epass, so not affected by the levy. However, Spass levy is now up to 500 per month.. if you are on spass, the maximum salary you can ever get is 2800 sgd/month. Else, the company better off applying epass as minimum for that is salaried worker of 3300sgd/month with no levy.

Unfortunately for me, I have Indian colleagues on spass. So my boss being the typical stingy businessman decides to assign more work to us. The Indians will never push back.. they are obedient, listen to whatever you say types. So even if you reject the extra workload, you are forced to take on in other ways such as managing the Indians who now are overloaded and can't complete the tasks you assign them to do.. it's a lose lose game as everyone races to the bottom.

MoM rules are not rewarding for workers.. if you run a business, sg is good. But for salaried employees, life is difficult and hard.
Now, businesses are deciding to cut profit margins to kill their competitors or business in general is heading into that direction. Like I say, it is a race to the bottom.

Don't be fooled by the claims you can make 10k sgd a month. For every 1 person earning that much, there are 1000s on cheap, foreign labour..especially Malaysians.

Singaporeans have it the worst as no-one is protecting them from the invasion of cheap, foreign labour. Irony.. as msia gov is too hard in protecting the majority Malays, but sg gov is too soft in protecting the majority Chinese. There need to be a middle ground

This post has been edited by the99percent1: Dec 15 2015, 02:35 PM

All I can say is you are lucky the bangla hasn't replaced you yet. No offense to them.. they are just making an honest living.

But if they were capable enough to do your job, for a quarter of your salary.. well, capitalism and free market economy takes over.

U sure me? Mhaha.. well, I think for msian, yes, doing decent and stable. Now need to think where I'm heading and next year I definitely should increase my salary. But I'm handicapped because there are FT above and below me on spass. Ie earning less than 2.8k/month. And this is industry wide.. So me, on epass am stuck in no mans land. Can't ask for more from current company due to easily replace me with cheap FT and I can't jump because other companies won't willing to pay my salary..


And this is the fact for a lot of pass holders starting out or have 3-5 years working experience.. we are trapped.

I've been trying to convert to pr, but to no avail thus far. I think once you become pr, you are no longer tied to the merciless permit system and free to move around. Until then, salary is significantly surpressed and is frustrating.

This post has been edited by the99percent1: Dec 15 2015, 07:03 PM

All stuck in kl. Hahaha
Can't bring over also.

Not like I wanted to come here also.. company seconded me back to sg. Kicking and screaming.

But since I was here, thought why not make it. Situation in msia is getting worst and worst everyday.

And having sg experience also looks good on resume. End up now become kuli.

This post has been edited by the99percent1: Dec 16 2015, 10:31 AM

Ya, haha. I was lucky that salary in kl was also sg rate. After conversion, I was out earning even managerial level in kl.. No debts or commitment and lots of disposal income for 2 years, it wasn't hard for me to save up to buy the car and watches.

Can compete, but spass holder isn't making more than me, whilst doing the same kuli job. Hence, I'm stuck. Lol. Until I convert to pr, then may ask for more.

With the minimum salary of epass so close to spass, sg companies are just abusing it only.. sad but true.

Imo, they should abolish the minimum salary on epass as too controlling and counter productive. Award epass based on recognized degree, position in company and experience whilst make Spass strictly for blue collar or diploma holder. That way, there is no abuse of it. No one above supervisor level should be on spass.

This post has been edited by the99percent1: Dec 16 2015, 07:38 PM

Wow.. just wow.

Where's that flame shield of mine.

You sound like a typical yes man.

I made a reasonable suggestion on how they can improve the permit system. If you had an ounce of critical thinking, you'd see it as a fair assessment of the system in it's current form.

But no, only a yes man would close his eyes, put his fingers in his ears and scream "I don't wanna hear about this suggestion; it challenges my beliefs."

So act ignorant or indifferent to the woes of people who actually have to live through the system and make a living from it for all I care. It makes zero difference to my life. Next time you go off on that angle, do a proper analysis of where the Fuck that person is coming from before attacking the persons. That was seriously uncalled for.

Anyways, continue living in your tin foiled wrapped mansion of yours. God knows how hard you've work to earn it. Slow clap for the keyboard warrior, you sir, win the internet today.

This post has been edited by the99percent1: Dec 17 2015, 09:31 AM

what do you know of my accomplishments, experience, qualifications and skill to make such a judgement call?

Has it ever occurred to you that out of 20 people in kl operations, why was I the only one to not be let go and furthermore, brought into sg under all costs?

You know nothing about me to make a suggestion..

Heck, what do you know of my field or industry to be able to even suggest anything?

For someone who supposedly is earning a lot of money, haven't youve learnt to keep your opinions to yourself?

I know what is best for myself. If I say pr is the next route for me if I want to progress here in sg, then that is what I will do..

Damn.. looks like fun. Enjoiii.

More like show off how many expat PhD ang moh..

Dafuq... Thats like 18bucks a month... Ur sg salary cant maintain this small cost?

Gg already
Lots of indians and bangla have come in and taken up lower rates.

Our only plus is we can speak chinese.

You pay a 15% flat rate if work less than 183 days in sg.

However, can request a refund if you stay longer ie long term resident.

I took that package.. was fun for a year bur later will regret to the max when company move u back to sg on low package..

I say take the package, but later, discuss about accommodation and other allowances.. ur salary sure rugi one if they dont cover your singapore expenses..

its a trick to get good msian workers into singapore at a cheap rate.

Don't transfer savings... if you want, can play with some money you are prepared to lose. best to leave in fd collect interest.