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Working in Singapore V18, All About Living in The Little Red Dot
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rookie93
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Apr 13 2016, 11:05 AM
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is it to say, basically impossible for Malaysia fresh grad mechanical engineers to able to enter Singapore for work? I've applied to many companies seeking fresh grads for the past 2 months, and none have even replied yet.
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rookie93
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Apr 13 2016, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Apr 13 2016, 12:05 PM) very easy actually , jus show in ur resume, wat u learn in ur study or intern tat you could actually help the company, oso show tat u can start work immediately and independantly and avoid much guidance. sure lots of company wanna hire u  did do as such but.... nnnnnnot really sure that works anymore  ..... i was of the assumption that Malaysians would generally be of higher chance because of "cultural similarity" .... and the fact that Singapore does recognize Malaysian higher ed institutions that are part of the Washington Accord.
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rookie93
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Apr 13 2016, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Apr 13 2016, 11:19 AM) nothing is impossible, but you have to understand that there are also competition coming from China, Philippines, Indonesia, Thai and other countries, which are willing to work for "cheaper, better, faster".. so if you are willing to lower your expectation, you can probably land a job faster, else just gotta wait until luck arrives on the salary front i've lowered right down all right, but from my little reading of work permits, it seems we do have a restriction on minimal salary right? Technical executives like , engineers require a minimum 3.3k i thought? or could an engineer also be granted an S-pass cause from what i read, S-pass is for semi-skilled workers, eg technicians..... dont quite know the work permit system in SG, but it seems to suggest if foreigners are to be hired we have to be given quite a high salary, well, at least much higher than the average junior/fresh engineer in Malaysia...
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rookie93
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Apr 13 2016, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Apr 13 2016, 11:28 AM) Not impossible but hard. I just received a call from one of the recruiters asking me whether still looking for job which I don't know when I sent that application (could be few months or 1 year back). Sometimes their preference is towards Singaporean/PR as they do not require to apply any employment pass. i did receive one offer back last month inviting for a Skype interview. they held on monday evening, i was ready but then it was postponed because the HR said "Boss is still in a meeting, i will reschedule" . followed up the next 2 or 3 days, HR says still arranging... so i thought i'd wait for another week, then sent in a follow up email no reply. Then last week i decided to call up the company, the same HR person picked up the phone and said, "boss is very tied up currently, we may need to wait a lot longer for this to happen" .. Is it safe to say, i've just been booted off the shortlist due to some freak nightmare bad luck despite being called for interview? I dont understand this scenario where i got called for interview, kena ffk-ed by the boss and now HR seems to suggest i've lost it before i even got the chance to discuss.
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rookie93
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Apr 13 2016, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Apr 13 2016, 01:42 PM) no... i know it says minimum 3.3k but i didnt follow on that... even in Malaysia asking for 2.8k i get accused by peers of asking too much.. my asking is closer to S-pass minimum which is 2.2k. But what do the employers think about it? I'm quite confused on this basis. Do they still seek lower asking candidates eventhough the minimum is to be 3.3k? OR what else are they looking for now?
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rookie93
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Apr 13 2016, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Apr 13 2016, 02:12 PM) there is no guarentee that engineers must be EP, and cannot be S-Pass or even WP... My sister was once hired on WP, she left the job 3 months later, and was hired on EP, and one year later she got her PR. She's a graduate from UK. to the employers, if they can get a cheaper person to do the job, they will.. why would one wanna pay more and lower the profit? like i said earlier, the competition is stiff, there's always someone ready to take your job at a cheaper rate, and willing to work harder and faster than you. oouh... well i think i'm certainly asking on the lower side of the payscale now... if i go unreasonably low, its like shooting myself in the foot too though... cost of living KO... or there really are people asking for that low.. like say... less than $1800?
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rookie93
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Apr 13 2016, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Apr 13 2016, 02:26 PM) In your case, don't give up on this job but at the same time continue to look for other job. by dont giving up for this job means...? i just wait for their reply one day? or i still continue to follow up on them? i kinda think following up is not gonna work anymore.. its like, if they want me, then they'll call me, if not, nothing else I can do. I've been trying on others as well, but it seems tough luck..... I dont know why i'm missing out....unknown university grad? too low pointer? not outstanding enough academically? Last year i read an article saying Singapore have a lack of engineers they're trying to bring in more since their own youths prefer doing medic, law and business. So aaargh.. its so confusing and tiring to dig up all the factors.....
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rookie93
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Apr 13 2016, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(deadravel @ Apr 13 2016, 02:44 PM) I also have this type of confusion, im from IT industry, by right salary should be s$3k+ and get EP according to standard, but some of my fren gt 2.2k and not EP. not sure why n how those company see the standard.  the govt ministry is the one issuing the pass right? how do they approve technical execs like (IT & engineers) to get so low? means they also quite cincai like our gomen also?
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rookie93
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Apr 13 2016, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Apr 13 2016, 03:26 PM) Put this job aside and go on look for other jobs. I usually follow up 2-3 times only. In my current employer, they only picking SG citizen or PR due to insufficient quota and the ratio of locals:foreigners is too bias. you're engineering also?
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rookie93
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Apr 13 2016, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 13 2016, 03:43 PM) if you ask me, for engineer, registered PE here is professional. graduate engineer not professional.. no?? graduate engineer may not even falls in the executive bracket the bracket shows min 3300 from executive to professional. if I remember correctly its from Q1, Q2, P1 & P2, then what is a graduate engineer known as? semi-skilled...?  wah. same rank as technician only... saad. but yaa, kinda true tho
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rookie93
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Apr 13 2016, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 13 2016, 04:02 PM) need to sabra la in blue, its MOM requirement now, vacancy need to lock in job-bank for a set period, open to only sin/pr only. employer need to prove singaporen core assessment before can hire others so whatever advertised in jobstreet or other portals means they have gone through job-bank and there were no local candidates applying then only they can open to foreign applicants?
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rookie93
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Apr 13 2016, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 13 2016, 04:20 PM) I don't know how jobstreet / other portal works. but u are right on the second part >>no local candidates hired (after MOM job-bank) then only they can hire for EP/SP/WP I can give you one advise here, for example my co. after the job-bank period and after several local/pr interviews and non take-up, the hr will start to open up write-in(s) to call up. it seems somehow, Malaysian knew this '"A"" company has vacancy lock in job bank, just start to write/drap in their resume. we never need to resort to jobstreet/portals/recruitment agencies. can you see that one step ahead here ???? but some companies just advertise in job portals only without further details on any other specific emails to write in-to. Those i have no other choice other than to just apply through the portal... so do i stalk job-bank positions as well? what i have been doing all this while is just writing in to companies of relevant work scope through their general/enquiry/info email, some do not provide recruitment/hr emails to send to. I dont know the likeliness they will even check my email... and what do you mean by "vacancy lock" in job bank?
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rookie93
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Apr 13 2016, 10:32 PM
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speaking of consultancy..... is it right that consultancy offers the opportunity to be involved in more diversified areas giving more options to specialize in a particular field later on, whereas going straight to factory/sitework/production/manufac makes it difficult to switch to different fields and gain seniority should one find the initial field has no growth potential / not suitable?
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rookie93
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Apr 14 2016, 07:37 PM
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...rvices-contractTroubled times coming for Singapore? I might as well stop dreaming of landing fresh grad job there now after this news...
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rookie93
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Apr 15 2016, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Apr 15 2016, 03:07 PM) dont worry, SG wont be the only country affected, the effect will be region-wide. so, are you gonna stop dreaming landing a fresh grad job in the region now?  difficult la.... i wont be going to apply every single possible job full of hope and glimmer anymore la... just apply only lorrr, if got get then good lor
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rookie93
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May 26 2016, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(QiAnG @ May 25 2016, 05:35 PM) I tried looking for a job there end of last year, but end up getting some... not so relevant jobs, mostly QAQC stuffs (I prefer learning something more relevant for my 1st job, thats why I accepted my current job, although pay is not so well, and living cost in PJ is very very high). I'll try job hunting in SG again after 1 year working in PJ, I'm originally from Sarawak. Hi, I'm from heavy machinery, my company is a supplier for Plastic Injection Moulding Machine, so I have to go to a lot of clients doing plastic stuffs. My current plan to learn technical hands on stuff for some time, then either continue with current stuff if I enjoy the work, or go over for bigger scale project stuffs in the future, still thinking, quite stressful thinking about the future.  Im on the same boat as you. Also just grad, tried my luck in Sg, none came unfortunately, but got a job in Msia so work for now. Dunno if during my current work i should continue applying for jobs there? Im under probation at my.current company for 6 months. Or should i just go up till 1 year then only give another try at Sg applications?
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rookie93
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May 26 2016, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ May 26 2016, 10:21 AM) Keep applying. It takes time to process everything Lets say the very hopeful scenario is, i get an offer in Sg but I'm still on probation at my current company. Is it ok to just leave during this probation period...?
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rookie93
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May 26 2016, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(KilJim @ May 26 2016, 10:48 AM) It's more okay to leave during probation compared to after being confirmed Oh izit? So it doesn't leave like a sort of negative impression for the future employer?
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rookie93
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May 26 2016, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ May 26 2016, 10:29 AM) Why not? Just serve the notice period of your probation. Don't be surprised if you see any employee working in SG leave 3 days after work commencement  Wah 3 days haven't start anything much also ciao d? Lol
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rookie93
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May 26 2016, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(KilJim @ May 26 2016, 11:13 AM) Of course it will, but you only asked if it's "okay" to leave, not what the future implications may be If you only have a few weeks then just dont show this experience in your resume, no need to explain Aaah i get it... Its like, i will be applying as though I'm still a fresh grad again. From that point of view, looks like getting past 1 year looks more established... I dont know if i shoud or not though, the job here now seems okay-ish, though long working hours (plus OT up to 12 hrs), i imagine working in Sg wont be much different other than the currency appeal....
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