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 Working in Singapore V18, All About Living in The Little Red Dot

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oe_kintaro
post Nov 11 2015, 10:54 AM

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I received my offer letter earlier this week so once I put my signature on the dotted line my move to Singapore will be put in motion. I should be in Singapore by mid next year if all goes to plan. No turning back now.
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post Nov 11 2015, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(KilJim @ Nov 11 2015, 11:27 AM)
Mid next year?
My god...you have a 6 month notice period?
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No. This is an intra company relocation.
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post Nov 11 2015, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Nov 11 2015, 12:17 PM)
Can review how's the package like? Dollar to dollar match? With accommodation provided and any other perks?
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Dollar to dollar for my base is within 10% variance of my last drawn, but there are additional living and commuting allowances as well as loyalty bonuses. Other benefits should be same as regular employees. Should be fairly comfy for one person. In interests of confidentiality I'd rather not reveal the actual range.

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post Nov 11 2015, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Nov 11 2015, 01:10 PM)
mind sharing which industry you belong in?
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Engineering
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post Nov 11 2015, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Nov 11 2015, 01:24 PM)
Just saw your tag you're from penang, seems like one of those US firms that operates in penang and singapore as well?

very nice opportunity you have there rclxms.gif congrats!
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Yup MNC
Thx hope I'll like Singapore brows.gif
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post Nov 11 2015, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 11 2015, 05:08 PM)
Anyone know what's the average pay for a Finance Manager or Audit Manager in SG?
What's the range for small, medium and large (MNC/Listed) companies?
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Personally I found this site quite useful for assessing one's market rate.
Auditing Manager
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post Nov 12 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Nov 12 2015, 02:05 PM)
is that S**** company just by M*****?  tongue.gif
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Errr nope don't think so sweat.gif
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post Nov 19 2015, 11:01 AM

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Can anyone here share their experiences managing their personal finances? I'm planning to ask my employer to bank my salary to an international bank (HSBC). Will there be TT charges between HSBC Singapore and HSBC Malaysia? I plan to use a HSBC Singapore account for my daily needs and remit the majority of my savings to my HSBC Malaysia SGD account, converting only when exchange rates are favourable.
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post Nov 19 2015, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Nov 19 2015, 02:54 PM)
I suggest use maybank, cimb or more recently uob.
U can still keep ur money in hsbc sg but when u want to transfer back remit to ur mbb/cimb/uob singapore accounts via Fast (instant), then only remit back. Mbbsg to mbb my is free if u keep a certain amt .
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Apparently there is no charge to transfer from HSBC SG to HSBC MY either. Just need to pay the conversion rate... brows.gif
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post Nov 19 2015, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Nov 19 2015, 04:12 PM)
Isit? I have a hsbc ac as well but didnt see it. Maybe i shud explore tht as well.
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Apparently if you have Premier Account in Malaysia, it allows you to leverage Premier facilities in Singapore as well. I can thus repatriate to a SGD account in the Malaysian branch without fees or needing to convert.
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post Nov 19 2015, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Nov 19 2015, 04:23 PM)
Ah premier accounts. Too poor for tht.
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ayam just a regular wage earner. You'll be surprised you don't really need to have a lot of cash inside to open one. just that total cash + investment holdings need to maintain around 200K MYR.
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post Nov 20 2015, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Nov 20 2015, 10:52 AM)
Yup yup I heard HSBC is the best bank in the world. No fee to any branch worldwide, truly the world's local bank. People working there all very most bestest one. Rate wise better compare though if TTing big sum. But you premier that few % nvm one la.
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Are you referring to the spread between buy and sell?
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post Nov 20 2015, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Nov 20 2015, 12:43 PM)
The rate comparative with other banks or money changers. HSBC is not known for the bestest rate the last time I check.
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aah oic. I'll take a note on that. thx.
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post Dec 17 2015, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Dec 17 2015, 09:23 AM)
Wow.. just wow.

Where's that flame shield of mine.

You sound like a typical yes man.

I made a reasonable suggestion on how they can improve the permit system. If you had an ounce of critical thinking, you'd see it as a fair assessment of the system in it's current form.

But no, only a yes man would close his eyes, put his fingers in his ears and scream "I don't wanna hear about this suggestion; it challenges my beliefs."

So act ignorant or indifferent to the woes of people who actually have to live through the system and make a living from it for all I care. It makes zero difference to my life.  Next time you go off on that angle, do a proper analysis of where the Fuck that person is coming from before attacking the persons. That was seriously uncalled for.

Anyways, continue living in your tin foiled wrapped mansion of yours. God knows how hard you've work to earn it. Slow clap for the keyboard warrior, you sir, win the internet today.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 17 2015, 09:37 AM)
Don't be such a baby. Already work the better part of a decade still can't take criticism? I'm not commenting on your "suggestions to improve the permit system."  I'm merely disputing your assertion that the permit system is the barrier to your growth.
Your posts imply that "If only you were a PR, then your growth wouldn't be held back by all the kuli FT S-Pass holders doing your job for less pay," to which I say bullshit. It's exactly as you claimed in an earlier post - "The cream always rises." The question you need to figure out the answer to is, are you the cream, or are you the milk? And if you're the milk, what aspect of your profile is stopping you from becoming cream?

Identify it and then fix it. And no, the "lack of a PR" is not one of those aspects.
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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Dec 17 2015, 10:16 AM)
take it easy man

Some ppl cant take critism  biggrin.gif
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Wah lau guys, no need to take it so personally. In the end we are just replaceable cogs in a machine. No such thing as fair in this world. IMHO Singapore gov just wants the best people to stay and grow the human resources in their country. Unlike Malaysia, they have no natural resources to subsidize their state so it obviously means once you go in they want you to stay as long as possible and settle down and make babies there. That's why the pressure to convert S/Epass to PR and then to citizenship is strong and deliberate from a policy perspective. Some of my friends who went down south felt they had no choice in the end to go down that path. Sure, some companies will try to exploit you here and there, but so do our Malaysian employers when they bypass locals for Bangladeshis, Filipinos and Nepalese. My perspective is that you can live with it and try to squeeze what you want out of the system or move elsewhere. It boils down to our own choice. "You tak suka, you keluar" applies to almost any place I think.

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post Dec 17 2015, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Dec 17 2015, 11:21 AM)
I've heard a lot about this, but been working and living here for the past 7+years (PR for 6+ years), and i've yet to experience this...
married (wife MY Citizen, SG PR)  with 2 kids born here in SG (also MY Citizen, SG PR) and own a HDB here, renewed my REP (including my kid ones, since kids REP are tied to parents) online without much drama.
So i'm not sure if SG Gov is still pressuring PRs to convert.
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Yes, but the fact you converted from E-pass/S-pass means you have one foot in the boat already, and furthermore your kids have to do NS. You haven't gone completely over but obviously the way is open for you and you might feel tempted at some point to convert. some of my friends who are still single felt it was their only logical choice.
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post Dec 18 2015, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Dec 18 2015, 10:25 AM)
I'm banking on the high speed rail.
Can't understand why the opposition is dead set against it. It'll open up the labour market in KL, forcing many companies to start paying competitive rates as the ada oomph workers can easily travel down south for work...
Oh, mebbe that's why...
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It's just populist nonsense to attract the east Malaysia crowd. The crux of their idea was to divert the funds to build a proper highway in east Malaysia. Like what you see in Penang, things that the opposition opposed eventually went ahead anyway if it made economic sense.
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post Jan 5 2016, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Blues89 @ Jan 5 2016, 09:25 AM)
the 80% is general guideline,but many ppl can get 1:1 or even more than 1:1 depending on their skills and negotiating with the employer.
so jia you!
i also dunno ill be in sg for how long
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I noticed a lot of repeated questions from many of the folks here on market rate salary in this thread.

Just a sharing, but I found this website quite useful for estimating one's market rate, not just in Singapore, but other places as well. Hopefully someone can pin this up somewhere: www.payscale.com. I'm glad used this as a guide when I negotiated with my bosses on my relocation.

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post Jan 5 2016, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Blues89 @ Jan 5 2016, 10:43 AM)
yea thatll be great as well,but some uses ur current pay ( they always request for payslip or smtg).
maybe its good to have payscale as one of ur negotiation point.but if ur already overpaid ...haha then too bad
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The path for relocation is usually easier compared to jumping companies. Your boss / company usually knows what you are really worth to them in terms of skill sets / experience and how much you are getting already.
Assuming no hitches in the EP, I'll get about 1.25 (allowances included) when I come over. In retrospect I should not have asked for so little....for me, I know I'm still relatively junior within the pay grade.

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post Jan 5 2016, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jan 5 2016, 03:00 PM)
So many elite have great increment, I jealous.

I start work in SG 10 years ago at s$1,350. After 10 year work anniversary syukur managed to increase to s$2,700 now. Dunno how to count the percentage increase over last 10 years also.
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double every 10 years, at linear rate that an average 8% increment every annual review.
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post Jan 5 2016, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Jan 5 2016, 03:35 PM)
He is expat. 8% so tall. My increment only 2% cover inflation.
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The more usual case I think is a staggered line, maybe lower annual increment but having a significant bump every few years due to upgrade / promotion / job change. Average out is 8% p.a. lah

Here in Penang, I think the average median increment (at least in my MNC experience) is 5-8 % p.a. maybe due to higher inflation rate compared to Singapore. So if you adjust for an annual 3% inflation rate that's a net 2-5% p.a.


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