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Investment THE FENNEL @ SENTUL EAST by YTL (V2), Sentul East KL
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King Gor
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Dec 18 2018, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(gks @ Dec 17 2018, 11:57 PM) It is market sentiment issue at the moment. Ytl sold capers and fennels at peak of sentiment. And investors just ignore the fundamental of Sentul. IMO...in their next launches... They should launch bread and butter product and not those fancy facade. With exception of very selective location and product... Most developers are struggling to sell. Bread and butter product I think many developers can do it, they should do most people can't do it..up till today most people still don't have clear image about their masterplan
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King Gor
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Dec 18 2018, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(gks @ Dec 18 2018, 01:12 AM) Then good luck in selling. The market has show purchasers unwilling to pay anything beyond price point rm800k at this location. Whether it is iconic building and ytl or not. The demographic here simply cannot support such price point. And for outsiders.. There are so much choice with better branding/location out there. Just compare it with Southbrook which already 7788 sold out despite not launched at the peak 2012-14. Sold 7788? You may ask the person above got how many units left, only sold 78% chances higher..if they launch something iconic 500k but 900-1000psf in sentul I believe can sell very well This post has been edited by King Gor: Dec 18 2018, 09:59 AM
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King Gor
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Dec 18 2018, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 18 2018, 09:57 AM) never hope for a single light train line will change the fate of an entire townshiip. like that might as well cheonng sg buloh or cyberjaya, how can MRT line brings more class????? bangla class or pavilion class? Correct MRT can't brings more class even Sungai Buloh got 2 MRTs and 1 KTM station
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King Gor
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Dec 18 2018, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 18 2018, 01:51 AM) I actually applause YTL brings class to this old town. not many developers are willing to do so. they prefer to play safe with super boring façade n cheap price. maybe midfields apartments are the most boring apartments ever, they have masterplan, but developer needs to amend masterplan to suit current and future needs. I believe only Sentul west has not been fully developed. out of 4 proposed condos, only two were launched. Many developer save cost play super boring facade and provide super lousy construction materials..if got empty land sure maximize their profit build 40-50levels building, only YTL still build less 10levels commercial building like their D5, 2, 8, 6&7
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King Gor
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Dec 18 2018, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(johnrck99 @ Dec 18 2018, 09:59 AM) U like the entrance? Fennel entrance traffic flow is really horrible, the cris-cross of ingress and egress is haphazard and not efficient. No doubt there are some lessons learnt incorporated into fennel from capers and other ytl condo but still my wish list for fennel. what i really dislike so far. 1. corridor is always so dark. (dark theme) 2. tandem parking!!!! even saffron and maples dont have that. 3. main entrance. 4. guard house is lembab for ytl condo standard. 5. perimeter service road gets muddy during rain. 6. transparent bath room 7. bathroom window is very big opening. u probably have to close it when you are using it.. what i like so far 1. parking ramp. wide and the slope is gentle. 2. swimming pool 3. gym 4. lots of green like typical ytl condo. well, my view only. Difficult to please everyone, like their corten steel signage in front of the main entrance some people suggest to repaint it, they really dunno what is corten steel..only one question, do you think this condo worth buying?
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King Gor
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Dec 29 2018, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(indramerlin @ Dec 18 2018, 01:24 PM) The design too good for sentul.. btw, the price still too expensive for investment.. For own stay, not too bad.. Sometime value buy mean not exclusive, property this kind of thing the more expensive the more people want to own it..feeling of satisfaction, achievement and of course status.
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King Gor
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Dec 29 2018, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(planc @ Dec 27 2018, 11:37 AM) Their fansi and supporter spotted  can you read the comment above properly and answer it? Actually dun want to continue this topic as I am not the purchaser..since you ask then we can discuss a bit.. Do you think their facilities kids friendly? Got Jogging Track, Badminton Court, Basketball Court, Water Park with Water Jet, Spa Pool, Jacuzzi Pool, Barbeque Area, Rooftop Skydeck? All these dfficult to maintain it? Maintenance and cost cutting is different story.. Big build up does it mean their layout practical and family oriented? Sauna difficult to maintain and sustain? Have you heard about infrared sauna? Today if you are 5 Stars Hotel can you tell your customer because of Spa/Sauna difficult to maintain and sustain so don't have it? Can...just remove 1 Stars from your hotel first..You can do what others can't do then you only jutisfy that level..do what others can do then you are ordinary.. Have you visit there before? Any other developer in whole Malaysia had done the same thing before? If no, meaning Capers and Fennel are remarkable.
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King Gor
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Dec 29 2018, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(planc @ Dec 27 2018, 01:49 PM) Cheap doesn't mean ppl will buy..Today, if a Datin look for a condo for retired, will they consider here? If want to buy groceries no Jaya Grocer, Villege Grocer or BIG here..Pets food no Pets Wonderland..F&B, Japanese dining or want to buy wine also nothing here..Thai Odyssey, Healthland or Reflexology centre? Hair Salon, Nail Salon, Nail Spa, Weigh Management, Beauty & Skincare, Aesthetic Dermatology Centre? How about Wellness Centre, Pharmacy, Dental Surgery? If her grandchild stay nearby want to bring them attend Creative Class, Learning Centre, Preschool, Dance Academy, Child Specialist Clinics also nothing here, have to go KLCC, Mont Kiara, Hartamas, Acardia, might as well buy a unit there instead of Sentul..Can attract ppl from other place to come, they like they feel convenient, want to fail also difficult This cannot be denied, they have to work harder and harder.
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King Gor
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Dec 29 2018, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(planc @ Dec 26 2018, 02:18 PM) Millions dollar properties but got millions dollars environment and facilities or not? Tell ppl got MSC status but providing the most expensive and slowest speed home broadband  Time Fibre 100Mbps only RM99/mth..how much YES charging for unlimited 100Mbps now? Maxis broadband is another option while waiting form JMB and Time fiber..but signal not good for level 30 and above
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King Gor
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Dec 29 2018, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(johnrck99 @ Dec 29 2018, 10:41 AM) The layout is quite ok already for the various sizes. Some has ensuite which is good. The drawbacks that i can see is the lanai. Some r quite big (which eat up) ur sqft), some r too small that u cant fully utilize it (maybe just planter box). For some unit that come with big foyer... may convert into storage area with cabinets. At least u can gate up the foyer The big size 2 rooms unit is type c if not mistaken. Not the ideal unit as unit is sharing wall with the lift core. Do you know for highrise building the strongest structures is lift core?
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King Gor
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Dec 29 2018, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 29 2018, 12:01 PM) Unless one has concern with structure integrity, is it relevant to stay next to lift core/strongest structure? Strongest structure meaning the wall thick enough and barely hear the sound from elevator.
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King Gor
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Dec 29 2018, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 29 2018, 02:20 PM) What about vibration? Concrete is a fairly good sound conductor. Elevator motor usually operate in rooftop machine room.
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King Gor
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Dec 29 2018, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 29 2018, 03:52 PM) For your query, they are using KONE elevators, smoother ride with lesser vibration and noise https://www.kone.my/Images/brochure-kone-el...tcm94-18863.pdf
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King Gor
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Dec 29 2018, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 29 2018, 04:28 PM) Manufacturer may be good. What about the installer? Track perfectly aligned? If you curious about the ability of their professional project management team you should contact them directly as I believe no one in this low tat forum can provide you a satisfying answer.
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King Gor
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Mar 3 2019, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Mar 2 2019, 12:58 AM) at night like this loh. Still ok. Can see capers[attachmentid=10193748] Million dollars unit come with million dollars view, another superstructure next to Maybank building under construction now. This post has been edited by King Gor: Mar 3 2019, 01:04 PM
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King Gor
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Mar 13 2019, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Mar 11 2019, 01:19 PM) How to sell when developer is now giving lower than launching price and additional carpark! Die. The offering include KLCC view units. When up there to view the units. Anyway, passed...this area, better play lower end segment as the price of 700-1mil prop sure cannot fetch good rental as the support rental level is not here. Among all the layout, dual key the highest roi...studio fully furnished unit can rent RM1400-1600, 2 rooms fully furnished unit RM2200-2400, so whole unit minimum can get RM3600 to RM4000..easy get tenant than the 1500sf unit
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King Gor
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Mar 13 2019, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(tetsu @ Mar 13 2019, 02:09 AM) According to the owner's group, 11 units left now, after "sales". Not sure if true lol. People here gonna say you're lying because some units were rented out at 2k LOL  Dual key type 2room bare unit got owner rented out that price but include the studio unit rental whole unit still can get above RM3k..3room basic unit with fan and light only RM2500-2700 but fully furnished decent renovation all RM3k above
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King Gor
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Mar 13 2019, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(BeastB @ Mar 13 2019, 08:28 AM) Not trying to rub any salt, I took interest to this location because I actually looked into it since it's the first time in my life where I've seen developers actually letting go units at below launch price years after the launch. And I agree, many other developers are doing the same thing - to me this is a big red flag for property for the next few years. Owner not stupid, some bought few units, even the new phase.. especially when you know how much downpayment have to pay for every unit, definately not everyone can pay it, many want to buy but can't fork out RM80-110k cash
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King Gor
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Mar 13 2019, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(BeastB @ Mar 13 2019, 12:03 PM) Advertisement price attract you to call and actual price is different. "Looking for a place to rent from next month, anywhere near LRT/MRT and is a large studio or 2 bedroom unit if possible. Serviced condo preferable. Partly furnished is okay. 2 car parks needed. Local Msian, for my own stay and fiance. Pls PM me if you have a unit. Thanks." For your requirements maybe can consider dual key studio unit with the tandem carpark..RM1400-1600 for studio unit, RM200-250 for tandem carpark..
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King Gor
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Mar 13 2019, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(tetsu @ Mar 13 2019, 11:40 AM) When you can't even understand and misinterpret "If price and rental is all that matters" ---> " price and rental doesn't matter", your English comprehension is hopelessly terrible lol. Don't blame others. Same goes for your terrible "research" of the Capers when there's no 1000 sqft KLCC view unit., without taking into account your 700k offer. Plenty of people own the same property for more than 10 years especially the older generation, how is that a lock down lol? Especially with 5% RPGT. Till now, no one can suggest a better alternative to the Fennel to stay, that's as close to KL, walkable to LRT & KTM, freehold, walking distance to shops, good density, "iconic" design at the price of under 700psf.  Not a bad buy, but what is better?lol For that price really need to work hard. No need wait 10years, at least many the crappers owner oredi earn some money for toastbox coffee and roti bakar now https://imgur.com/DcLVCuYhttps://imgur.com/2ss0mWlThis post has been edited by King Gor: Mar 13 2019, 01:32 PM
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