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post Jul 31 2016, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(iamihaveto @ Jul 30 2016, 05:56 PM)
Hi guys, i would like to ask opinions from all the sifus here. I am currently dilemma on choosing my next job.

Option 1: 3.7k SGD per month (Yes, have to reside at Singapore)
Option 2: 7k MYR per month (My hometown, Selangor)

I am 28 years old in IT industry. Currently reside in PJ, stayed at Singapore for 3 months last year and i dont feel happy working and staying there.

But MYR is unstable due to recent economic situation. Which 1 do you think i should take? Thank you.
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My opinion:
1) SGD3.7k in SG is not equally comparable to RM7k in MY, (It is different lifestyle, SGD3.7k in SG can't do much and slightly underpaid. RM7k with wise financial planning, u can live comfortably owning a car and house be it landed at out-town or condo/apartment in town).
2) Career progression - U have to think and decide which one is better, SG is slightly favourable as overseas/international exposure which it can be converted to valuable bargaining power in your future track, but doesn't mean u won't do well in MY. Right career track, manager and company u will rise at same pace as SG.
3) Family and friends - MY is favourable, if u took SG then u will be away from home. Just like everyone came here for money, less livelier compared to MY. Assuming u have bunch of friends etc, some outing and activities will still cost money which translate to lesser money to bring home. U will also plan to visit family and friends once in awhile, which will also reduce your saving.
4) Working culture is not the same in SG to MY, not everyone like/can adapt to SG office culture. Hence, one point to note if u plan to take SG that non-resident tax applied for those worked less than 183 days in SG.

Good luck in whichever option u choose.
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post Dec 30 2016, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Dec 30 2016, 06:27 PM)
Why is it called business analyst? I tot u analyse businesses lol. So u r an IT specialist acting as a medium between client and another group of IT developers? This is essentially an IT related job, am I right?
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Nowadays, most BA in market are in this scope. They are not IT specialist because they are not specalize in core IT such as coding, programming etc (May have basic of IT though). Analyzing businesses in a broader perspective comes from strategic/consulting/decision management dept (For large companies). Why BA is in market is because Business don't really care what happen at back-end instead just want what they want as outcome, whilst most IT developers can't fully translate business needs and e2e life-cycle. So BA act as middle-man connecting the dots between business needs and IT back-end to translate business needs, requirements and ultimately delivering complete product at highest efficiency possible. Otherwise, it will be chicken and duck talking over and over haha biggrin.gif
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post Feb 4 2017, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(febreze2xxx @ Jan 31 2017, 11:50 AM)
Job Title : Senior Human Resource Executive
Job Description : Generalist (currently focus on payroll and compensation & benefit)
Years spent in company : 6 years (Same Company upgraded from clerical up to current position)
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Sr Executive
Experience before joining : 0 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Salary : RM3.3k
Location: Klang Valley

I'm 28 this year and thinking of starting a family. But I feel my pay quite low to start one. Currently job hunting and asking for RM 5K. Is it ok or should I lower the expectation?

I've just completed my degree last year off-campus and thought is time to leave my current company.
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Based on your profile, 3.3k is at lower end. The main reason is due to your career started as clerical to current position, late degree and been staying at the same company for past 6 years. A good performer at KL with your profile should be around 4k to 6k and some top 10% around 8k. Being in HR u also know that there is "allocation" of increment etc hence that limits your payscale growth even with promotion.
What I recommend to u is to brush up your skills and specialty and it is time to go. Next job should pay should be around 4.5k (It is up to u on how much u put on expectations but should nego at least 4.5k).
Of course, I am speaking based on my experience.
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post Feb 7 2017, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(febreze2xxx @ Feb 6 2017, 09:19 AM)
Thank You,

It is really an eye opener.  Perhaps I was to busy with my study till i've not notice it.
Currently in the market HR is gone out of the basic of only administration to development. But I've notice more company are hiring IR and litigation for HR. So which skill I should polish? Development (Training and Branding) or IR (Disciplinary & litigation) wink.gif
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I am in different view because I believe it is getting tougher with current economic condition. Your question is relatively broad and there is no better answer to this. Since u are in Generalist, I would assume that u know all functions thus u should not limit to these two (Unless that is your interest or your expertise area). U need to plan what is your strategy to bring u to the next level/job. My recommendation is to specialize first then to general, best to start with Talent/Learning > Comp and/or Ben > Engagement or Legal > Generalist/Partner. Some people do it the other way also.
Also note that some of the functions are thankless job, be prepared well with strong EQ smile.gif
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post Feb 13 2017, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(febreze2xxx @ Feb 8 2017, 10:00 AM)
Thank You for the suggestion, but there always be the low balling in the industry. I need them to feel the recruiter win some actually. I'm targeting 4.2 to 4.5k for next jump.

Then again the industry is quite slow now days and my current job had become mundane. Maybe I should lower the expectation. nod.gif
I'm Looking to do Master in business administration. Currently it is the fastest to complete and cheap for my line. Is ok? or is it a waste of investment and go for a specialist master such as Human resource development, psychology or leadership?

Maybe i'm just to long here. In my current company doing the job that nobody wants (a bit tricky or dirty such as "retrenchment").

Yeah in this job we try to help people but people will never understand. I believe myself one of the unsung heroes haha. laugh.gif
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It is very subjective whether to pursue MBA or not in this field and from my experience, MBA adds little value compared to portfolio/certification. If u plan to venture into Academic/GLC industry in later part of career then I will recommend u to take up MBA.
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post Aug 6 2017, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(party @ Aug 6 2017, 09:36 AM)
100 x 3 = 3,000 and + 3.5k = 6.5k and getting close to 7k so nope. + own thinking underpaid. So nope. Overpaid definitely 100%.
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Sorry, don't generalise by saying "we" all think overpaid 100%.
It is decent pay not overpaid. Just because u think so does not mean everyone think the same.
I am pretty sure u have not seen or experience those working offshore. They are basically slave to platform with a basic living during offshore period. They don't get to be with families and friends whenever offshore even with occasion such as birthday, wedding, or emergencies u name it.
There are also risk associated with working offshore thus it is compensated, this is not like someone working in office with air-conditioning and clock-in and out to have lunch and dinner with friends and family.
And no, I work in Financial industry with few friends working in O&G, so no conflict in defending him.
Cheers.
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post Aug 6 2017, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(party @ Aug 6 2017, 04:33 PM)
I work in Financial industry. Yeah its decent paid but when he think he is underpaid then he is overpaid. Its just that simple.

Also it seems you are the one generalize saying I never experience such thing. Now who is the one who is ermmmm generalize and make assumption?  whistling.gif  hmm.gif
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Okay my bad for assuming that u have no offshore experience - I admit it biggrin.gif I don't generalize but I assume because I am referring to u only rclxms.gif
However, I don't agree with your first sentence - there is no such he think he is underpaid then he is overpaid, this is purely your selective judgement and there is no "we" hmm.gif
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post Oct 20 2017, 10:54 PM

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I have been seeing your posts in different threads, although I don't surf LYN everyday nor visiting every single threads, but I am sure many would agreed that u have very high self-preservation + confidence.
While u can say anything u like, let me just correct some of your statement below and my personal feedback.
Your confidence level is impressive (honest feedback) and I am putting this as one of my personal development this year.

QUOTE(Ralna @ Oct 14 2017, 01:31 AM)
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My new company really likes me, coz I did well in the written test and stress/ case interviews. The management is willing to wait for me as I need to serve 2 months' notice. I am also the only new staff they're hiring, according to HR, though the position was open to the public (on their official website & Jobstreet etc)... AFTER I was hired. There was no competition & the whole process was fast and smooth--my work pass was approved in 5 hours.

As much as I wanted to believe, either HR lied to u to make u happy, or your story isn't right.
In SG, there is a policy called FCF by MOM (Google it up), it is almost impossible to hire a "foreign employee" without going through Jobsbank for 14 days AND Work Pass approval in 5 hours. Based on what you shared, neither yourself or your future employer fall within "exemption" to the policy.
There is no such as ads posted after u was hired OR no competition throughout the process.



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In other words, I'll never run out of jobs that I can pick and choose from. & I get to experience working different jobs for different companies and industries = never boring / stagnant, and at the same time, discover my interests and passion, and build a large network of contacts. People like me are called multipotentialites, & if you've never heard of this term, google it.

If you think about it, the 21st century workplace is a far more challenging, ever-changing workplace. 

"Economic, demographic, and technological changes are all contributing to a transformation that is making the corporate ladder — a metaphor well suited for the industrial world of the last century — obsolete."

"(In the corporate lattice model) Well-rounded workers keep their skills relevant, and firms are more agile and better able to drive innovation."


Indeed what u said is partially true. However, there is limitation to those what u mentioned because we don't live in an ideal world and things just don't follow textbook or theoretical terms.
All rounder does not mean multipotentialites because there is limit to different industries and specialty. This is back to supply & demand, a hiring manager in Financial industry hardly hire a person from O&G industry, vice-versa.
Chances are so low to zero unless the roles and work scope are the same, even that, if hundreds of people applying for the same job - literally the person will not get a chance to be interviewed or shortlisted.



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