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QuickFire
post Oct 14 2017, 01:29 PM

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Job Title : actuary
Years spent in company : 6-7
Industry : life insurance
Experience before joining : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background: almost qualified as a certified actuary
salary : RM 16.5k
Location: KL

Been in this company for a little too long I think, thinking of moving soon. I'm aiming for 20k, feels like I'm being a bit underpaid in my current company. But it's hard to tell what's the benchmark is really...

QuickFire
post Nov 7 2017, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(ms749 @ Nov 7 2017, 05:01 PM)
Hi. May I know how old are you? And how did you make it to RM16k bracket? Was it through promotion or actuarial paper-based increments? And you mentioned underpaid. How much do you think the fair salary would be?
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Both promotions and paper increments. I'm close to 30. I'll be looking for 20-25k if I move. In fact i did get an offer of 23k but the job is quite radically different from a traditional actuary role, so I'm still thinking about it.

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post Nov 14 2017, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Nov 11 2017, 10:34 PM)
That guy talking cock....
Appointed actuary do earn a lot, in fact, they could earn as close as a CEO.
But the earliest I heard of reach more than 15k also need more than 15 years of experience and a fellow actuary title.
Without a fellow actuary..... BNM don't allow you to sign off the rates ....without that, you are just a person doing pricing... there are tons of pricing actuary in both general and life insurance... they are not paid any higher than any other average salaryman
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I can assure you, if you're not half bad you can get 15k in less than 8 years. The basic starting pay for a fresh graduate these days is around 3k. Total paper increments alone, which are guaranteed, are about 6k (varies by company of course, but that's about the average). That's already 9k without factoring in yearly increments and promotions.

The appointed actuary role is becoming less glamorous though, mostly through BNM's regulations which aim to limit the influence of AAs on the running of a company (for example pricing of products), and shifts the focus of the role to one that is more independent from the rest of the functions to maintain the integrity when setting actuarial assumptions and the likes. I've already seen a few AAs in the industry move on the other roles (Chief actuary, CFO, etc) in light of these changes. I'm sure AAs are still paid quite highly though, although not as high as a chief actuary.

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