proven how self sustainable this township already is... lol... a notch above against most of the newer/younger townships...

rimbayu there hard to say because u need to look at teluk panglima garang as a whole because ijm sold alot lands to tropicana gamuda and ecoworld... but i think in KV, elmina is bigger, i think total development land size there 5000 acre... but still sime darby being sime darby, their township need long time to flourish...

its true... haha... but still a decent township to stay if u are not office worker that have to go in office on time... everything i need for a township is there dy... just that those cheaper landed quite lousy and small sizes...

its a dilemma, you wish your township to develop further so can get capital appreciation and also convenience for living, but it always comes with a cost... noise, jam, pollution and etc... susah mau jadi human also... haha

dilemma bro... setia alam well developed compared to elmina, other than working issue, the rest all can be solve within the township without driving far away... elmina u wana do anything also need 30 mins journey at least... lol... the commercial there just too limited...

yea question is how long to wait.... most ppl bought setia alam because its already well developed and self sustainable for staying... and jam this issue... once elmina reached the maturity of setia alam... i doubt they can avoid the jam issue also... now in the morning the traffic volume around elmina is getting more dy, imagine when elmina reached setia alam maturity level...

yelek... lol... by right now the lrt mrt should have include setia alam or elmina since they both GLC developer... but too bad its not happening as at now... setia alam also have options to in and out... but too bad the population too huge til all options also jam

extra roads wont help le at this juncture... only public transport like mrt lrt can helps... at least u can rest on it while going to your destination and also no need face the hectic jams...