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 INSURANCE TALK, ok let start

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vandoren
post Jan 13 2010, 09:31 AM

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may i know what is the differ between tranditional insurance and investment link insurance in terms of advantages and limitation.

i've compare my insurance package with my friends. Mine is tranditional where i have to pay a fix amount till the end of policy (if not mistaken)

while most of my friend buy investment link insurance.
i found that normally their payment is cheaper than mine for same coverage, let's say 200K life insurance.

Next, a friend told me that she only need to pay for 20 years, after that she no need pay for the insurance but she'll still be under protection.
vandoren
post Jan 13 2010, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(weikian @ Jan 13 2010, 10:25 AM)
Traditional and ILP both have their benefits.
ILP you can get big protection in young age with cheap premium. However, when we are getting older, the insurance charges will increase drastically. Thus, if you were paying quite a low premium for that, your cash value inside the policy might not sufficient to cover the insurance charges and riders.

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Does that mean ILP payment will increase according to age group? same like medical card?
Is that a chart or details regarding this increment?
I'm quite sure that some agent may not highlight on this part because I never heard my friends mention that.

I'm worry my friend may not able to afford the ILP in her later age since it already mentioned that the insurance charges for ILP will increase a lot.
vandoren
post Jan 13 2010, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(HHalphaomega @ Jan 13 2010, 12:58 PM)
Vandoren,

The insurance charge is a figure based on risk factors associated with a particular gender and age.

ILP premium payments don't increase with age but the amount paid (insurance charge) by selling your investment units would increase many fold by the time you reach 55 etc. This insurance charge table is usually provided in the ILP quotation from your agent.

You can assure your friend that her premiums would remain as it is but she may not be able to afford newer policies if she buys at an older age.

Cheers,

HH
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Can you explain on the highlighted part?
Just an example, my friend bought an ILP
let's say my friend paying 100 monthly for a coverage of MC - 90K, life - 100K, accident - 50K.

so, by the age 40 or late 50, she will still need to pay 100 monthly only to maintain the same coverage?
sounds like ILP is good that we pay cheap to get big protection?

then, i'm still not sure what's the traditional insurance's advantages over ILP.
Can explain on the below case?
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Traditional policy might be more expensive compared to ILP. However, the premium is fix because it do not have insurance charges for that. Another benefits is that the death benefits will continue to increase with age. Lets say you buy 100k protection at age 30, the amount of protection will increase with the cash value and it might reached 400-500k, and with the same premium you pay. Like me i bought a life insurance at age 1 about RM20 per month, now i still paying RM 20 per month and the protection is massive.
vandoren
post Jan 13 2010, 05:34 PM

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thanks all for the explaination biggrin.gif
i understand that the best insurance is the coverage that suit our needs with affordable payment.

however, I'm not sure how many agents out there are sincerely recommend suitable insurance to their clients. i believe that some agents only wish to get high commision regardless if the customer really need the insurance/saving plan.

just my 2 cents~
vandoren
post May 24 2010, 12:29 PM

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my bf purchased Mutual Life Plus 2 Coverage. http://www.publicmutual.com.my/page.aspx?n...lus#isrn_top_01

The Mutual Life Plus 2 is a term insurance policy which protect you against;
A. Group Term Life (GTL)
B. Group Personal Accident (GPA)
C. 36 Critical Illnesses

now he is considering of purchase more for his protection, any recommend?
vandoren
post May 24 2010, 02:34 PM

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thanks for some agent that PM me and appreciate HH for the reply.
i'm actually asking for advise, what other coverage my bf should look for?
he's currently have Group term life, Group personal accident and CI.
so, next he should look for medical card? or....?
vandoren
post May 24 2010, 03:22 PM

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Thanks HH, great explanation!
I will pass the msg to my bf and let him to decide smile.gif
vandoren
post Oct 11 2010, 10:25 AM

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i have some query regarding MLTA

my agent told me that i can assign my current insurance to MLTA. From what i understand, MLTA is some sort of life insurance, right?
but my agent advise me to assign my CI for MLTA, is that ok?
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post Oct 11 2010, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(MaxWealth @ Oct 11 2010, 10:52 AM)
MLTA = insurance for mortgage....
Do you have extra coverage?
if not, i think, you better don't assign it..
let your beneficiary to think about what to do with the fund..
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hi, thanks for reply. so, does that mean, CI can be assigned as MLTA?
my CI is 250K, while my loan amount is 135K
how do you think? hmm.gif
the beneficiary actually is my mom
vandoren
post Oct 12 2010, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(MaxWealth @ Oct 11 2010, 06:48 PM)
As long as the policy is yours, you can assign to the bank.
But what for you assign it to the bank?
if you assign, you can get better rate?
btw, i dont think you can assign only 135k to the bank..
are you married?

MLTA/MRTA is actually insurance..
which means, if anything happens to you (for your case, critical illness/death and tpd), 135k will be used to repay the loan, and the rest 115k for your beneficiary...
why does your agent ask you to assign to bank for the first place?
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no, i will not get better rate if i assign it to bank loan.
i'm still single, what is the difference between single and married? mind explain?

my agent advise me to assign current insurance to the bank because if possible, i dont wish to increase my monthly spending on insurance.

currently i have one term life insurance 100K, CI 250K, and premier CI 25K with cash value
monthy payment cost 12.5% of salary.
vandoren
post Oct 12 2010, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(MaxWealth @ Oct 12 2010, 02:32 PM)
Then i don't understand why they ask you to assign to the bank. For me, i will not assign to the bank because after assigning to the bank, you have no rights on the policy anymore. Just my 2 cents..

is it term? non par policy?
which means, if death= 100k+250k+25k+dividend
if CI= 250k+25k+dividend  and upon death RM 100k?
how long is your term?

If anythings happens to you, this fund will be paid to your mother. She has fully control of the fund.
But if you assign to the bank, the bank will fully repay the housing loan first. Then only pass the remaining to your mum.

Oh, regarding single or married. Before married, parents as nominee then the policy is a trust policy. If after married, then parents are not trust policy.
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hi, i'm very appreciate for your reply. i have 3 insurance
my term life@70, worth 100K if anything happen to me
CI 250K, no dividend, no value
CI 25K, with dividend, value grow by years

i understand that its better to assign a new life insurance to bank, but my current spending on insurance exceed 12% of my monthly salary, futhermore i haven't get my medical card yet, which i wish to buy later.
so, i'm now really no idea how to settle my MLTA.
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post Oct 13 2010, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(MaxWealth @ Oct 12 2010, 10:02 PM)
250k term @70 also?
Hmm, actually, you are secured at this moment even you don't assign to the bank.
If anything happened to you, your beneficiary will still get the money.
If you feel not comfortable, you can just assign the 100k term life to bank.
btw, how come you need so much coverage?
total of 375k..
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ya, total of 375K coverage sweat.gif
when i bought, i have zero knowledge about insurance as i was newly graduated that time
thats why my agent said i could not buy a new MLTA as total coverage would exceed 500K, which need to do mecical check up and need to make application from insurance company

actually my bank loan had approved months ago.
i'm just worry if anything bad would happen if i didn't assign insurance to the bank loan.
vandoren
post Oct 14 2010, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(MaxWealth @ Oct 14 2010, 01:41 AM)
lol. Considering a very comprehensive planning for now and future, in my opinion, you buy too much term at this age.
But now, after getting your housing loan approved, then this 375k coverage is just nice. (still have 115k CI and 100k life.)
(ideal CI sum assured =3-5 times of your annual income)
Don't burden yourself with too much insurance. but try getting a medical card to make your whole planning comprehensive.
Dont worry, at your age ( i assume less than 28), you can buy more than 500k but you will need to do simple medical checkup if more than 500k.
btw, if you are healthy, why scare of doing medical checkup?
Still, why buying too much insurance?
go for saving and investment if possible. (equip yourself with investment knowledge before you start doing so)

Go ask a few more expert. See what them says.
Be happy. don't so stress la. make sure nomination is done properly will do.
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thanks for your helpful advise thumbup.gif
i think i will assign my CI to bank and my mom
then in future, may try to look for a medical card which suit my need
i'm now already invest around 10K in public mutual, but the return is very slow
anyway, its long term investment, i can wait.
for other investment, i still need to study more before start tongue.gif

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