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post Jul 23 2009, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 23 2009, 03:06 PM)
Hello Forumers,

Below is an Investment Linked Product for my daughter (next b/d = 3 y/o) that my Financial Planner proposed:

Prudential Investment Linked:

i) Basic Sum Assured - RM 150K, (Premium - RM 1,018.80 p.a.)
ii) Crisis Shield Plus (Dread Disease Cover) - RM 150K (Premium - RM 1,183.50 p.a.)
iii) Med Card (H&S) - Premium = RM 693.00 p.a. (RM 75K per annum, Life time = 750K, Daily bed = RM 200.00)
iv) Enhanced Prupayor basic - RM 104.70
Total premium p.a. = RM 3,000

What do you guys think?

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I think the most important thing is 'what do you think', what other thinks may not seems logical to you as they have a different needs I'm sure.

Like C.o.o.l mentione, 150K life for a kid.. You have to put realistic thought into yourself. "Do you need that kind of amount if the children pass away" ? Do you really need it?
If answer is No, ask the agent to reduce the Life coverage. I believe for every $Ks that you have in the life, your units in your ILP will have to work extra hard to give you positive returns.
And are you already well verse with how ILP works? If not.. ask the agent to explain to you how your premium is allocated each year to buy the unit trusts funds; how is the cost of insurance is charged every year after you pay the premium.. You will get a better idea whether ILP suits you or not after this..

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post Jul 24 2009, 04:37 PM

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I believe the only 'legal/correct' way is to deduct just the premium that is meant for the medical, not the whole lot - 3K.


Added on July 24, 2009, 4:38 pm
QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 24 2009, 04:32 PM)
Since there is a medical component in this proposed plan, I can still get the RM 3K tax relief under medical right, even if the insured is my child and not myself?

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post Sep 3 2009, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Sep 3 2009, 09:00 AM)
guys, anyone experience about AIA insurance? how is it?

btw, is there really any Unlimited lifetime limit  Medical Card in the market?
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AFAIK, the only cards in the market with U.L.L is AIA's ECP+MCP and AXA's SmartCare Opt.


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post Sep 11 2009, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(leecy @ Sep 11 2009, 01:26 AM)
agree with what he said.  Better be honest and don't give up policy.

Yup.loading might have since you have your health condition. i agree with what c.o.ol. said on medical card upgrade.
Please prepare extra  budget if you wish to buy a standalone medical card as standalone medical card cost increase by age.

any decision make on surrender or upgrade, please consult your agent for further advice.
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I'm not an insurance agent, but this is what I know as a fact :

Doesn't matter your medical plan is standalone or ILP, medical card cost/charges do INCREASE based on insurance co's band! Only difference in ILP is you won't notice the increase unless you read your yearly policy statement.

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post Sep 11 2009, 04:19 PM

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why don't you copy & paste the whole phrase from the AIA policy to show us where this RM250 comes from?

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post Sep 12 2009, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(c.o.o.l @ Sep 12 2009, 05:34 PM)
Prudential - 10%, min RM300, max RM1000
GE - 10%, max RM500, 20% if exceed room limit
ING - no co-insurance
Allianz - no co-insurance
AIA - 10% max RM3000 if exceed free co-insurance amount
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Someone should verify again :

Allianz - There is a 20% co-insurance if you upgrade Room that is higher than the plan purchased. And there is a deductible of RM100 per admission.

ING - Deductible of RM50 per admission i think!
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post Sep 16 2009, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Sep 15 2009, 11:49 PM)
is that impartial opinion or voted with vested interest? wink.gif
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is hard to answer this type of question, don't you agree? Each has its own 'unique' feature..ie. ING has no co-insurance in any case, but AIA has unlimited lifetime limits; ING has a lower pre/post outpatients days limit than AIA; and ING has per-disability limit on the the Room(60 days per disability)...blablabla.. Is an Apple vs. an Orange to be frank.
So, It all bogs down to what type of features in the card that attract you and that should lead to your selection.
I guess the best way is to list down the features in point form, mark each of the feature which favours you the most with a tick, and count them at the end , that should tells you which med card suits you more.

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post Sep 16 2009, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Sep 16 2009, 10:16 AM)
i was comparing the cost of ING and AIA ECP+MCP from >35 - 70 years old and found out that the total premium for AIA card is about 25k more expensive than ING card for the same age range.
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there u go, u got the answer don't you?
There is always a cost to something that is 'good', in this case, AIA's unlimited lifetime limit ! wink.gif
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post Sep 17 2009, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(c.o.o.l @ Sep 17 2009, 09:57 AM)
Also not to forget AIA is until age 100 while ING is only up to age 70.
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yup that's another difference...
but insignificant to me as I don't believe i would need anymore coverage after 70....
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post Sep 22 2009, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Sep 21 2009, 06:04 PM)
To all AIA agents out there, i have a question to ask. Currently, I have AIA ILP with the medical plan Excelcare 150. I would like to upgrade to the current ECP+MCP200. Can i upgrade/convert within the same policy? Will there be any increment of premium upon conversion/upgrade? what is the procedure to upgrade/convert?

appreciate your feedback. thanks.


Added on September 22, 2009, 5:15 pmmy wife bought prudential ilp sometime ago and it has PMM3 medical rider in it. can any prudential agent share out the PMM3 coverage, including co-insurance. cant remember the coverage now and not having the policy doc with me at the moment as well.
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where are the agents you bought ur ILPs from? all gone missing?
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post Sep 23 2009, 11:07 AM

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sorry to hear that jutamind,
i think we hv a few good pru agents here in the forum, i think c.o.o.l is one? Maybe they can help..

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