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constant
post May 1 2009, 11:03 PM

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I need to buy insurance which has no investment component. I believe it is called term insurance. may I know what is the annual premium roughly for a 40 yo non-smoker male looking for a rm200,000 coverage? I have a quote from agent but I want to check whether it is too expensive. So as to be objective, I will not say the premium first.
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post May 1 2009, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(bbjslee @ May 1 2009, 11:10 PM)
How long the term you want it to be?
What coverage you are looking for? 2D, 3D, with or without medical card?
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What is 2d 3d? It is without medical card. I have seperate coverage for hposiptalisation and surgical. Sorry, I am not sure of the term either! Generally, how many years do people go for?

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post May 2 2009, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(bbjslee @ May 1 2009, 11:57 PM)
2D means cover only Death & TPD
3D means cover Death, TPD & Dreaded Diseases (36 CI)

How many years depend on you, only you yourself knows.
Term insurance increases every year based on your age.

GE, Term Policy with TPD benefit (2D only)
Minimum coverage is 5 years.
40 yrs old, male, non smoking, class 1 occupation (office, non dangerous).
For 200k coverage, RM1238 p.a.

If you start the 5 years coverage at 41 yrs old, it is RM1304 p.a.
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I am paying seperately for Critical illness so my term insurance must be 2d. Anyway, I am offered rm3100 for it. I am not sure how long the term is because I do not want to call the agent yet. But , even if the term goes to 20 or 30 years, can the annual premium be so much higher? Anyway, no medical examination is required according to him.
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post May 3 2009, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(bbjslee @ May 2 2009, 04:34 PM)
Yes it can be.
Anyway, for GE Term Life with TPD Benefit, 30 yrs term is RM2850p.a.

Require ME or not, is not up to agent to say. It is up to underwriter.
1. Are you married with children?
2. What's your occupation?
3. Have you been admitted to hospital? Reason?
4. Do you smoke?
Any few other questions.
Based on the questions, the underwriter will decide if you require ME or not.
Sometimes they might even have a lifestyle questionnaire for you, if you are over 40 and still single, if you work as saloon hair stylist.
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Thanks bbjslee.

Few questions. Just explain briefly will do.

1) term insurance. whats the difference taking 5 years or 30 years?

2) If my company already has group coverage for medical insurance, do I or people in general still take out medical cards on their own? Can I skip the medical card now and purchase only when I retire or no longer with the company?

3) Is whole life same as term? I read there are traditional producrs like whole life and endowmwnt. where is term life?

4) I also took MRTA for my housing loan. I compare roughly to the premiums i paid for term life and find that MRTA actually serves me better because it is cheaper PROBABLY because it is some sort of REDUCING COVERAGE where the coverage becomes lesser as more of the loans are settled. This suits me because as time passes I no longer need more protection as my kids become independent. Am i thinking correctly? If yes, can we get term life with MRTA characteriestics in malaysia? I find term life quite expensive in malaysia. I want to reduce the premiums. Maybe , I will cancel the term life, then get another smaller property under MRTA for extra coverage.

Thanks a lot./

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post Jul 4 2009, 03:23 PM

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Hi all,

Received a brochure from Maybank. For RM37.20 per month, can cover up to RM700,000 for disability from accident.

My question is:

1) Are accident disability insurance necesary and if so, is it better to get from a nrmal insurance company or from the bank?

2) This policy only covers disability from accidents..any policy that cover disability from ANYTHING including diseases in Malaysia?
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post Jul 4 2009, 04:30 PM

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ETIQA, which is Maybank's insurance arm right?

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post Jul 6 2009, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(c.o.o.l @ Jul 6 2009, 05:18 PM)
Cover death and total permanent disable from accidents? Or only death?
Any exclusions?
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Does not cover death, only permanent disability, from total to partial up to one hand or finger, max is RM700,000.
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post Oct 8 2009, 02:29 PM

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Assume that I have liquid assets enough to sustain my family for 10 years, do I need life insurance coverage? I have both life insurance and critical illness plus medical card coverage. Am thinking of dropping life insurance. What do you think? Mine is pure term life. If I stop the term life, does it somehow affect my track record with the insurance company? E.g. if I decide later to increase my critical and/or medical coverage, will they do it?
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post Oct 10 2009, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(Vitorbarbosa @ Oct 9 2009, 01:57 AM)
I'm from Great Eastern.

I'm not sure about people comparing the products. You guys should compare the agent as well.

Alsree, I'm not aware in Malaysia that it is mandatory benefits for staff.

It's just pure employee benefits, getting the staff morale higher.

@ Constant, you don't take out your life policy unless you really have to. However, you have enough liquid asset for 10 years. Do that means you are willing to sell those assets if you were to pass away? Do the yearly premium really create such a burden to your finances? In real world, the more money one have, the more insurance he is getting. Ask your wealthy friends how much insurance coverage he has. You'll be surprised rich people buy more coverage than low and middle income family.

Why?
1. Creditor Proof.
2. Emergency Cash (Policy Loan - create your own bank)
3. Proceeds and returns are tax-free
4. Create assets, instead of building assets
The company will suspect when you cancel and increase your coverage later, and query is normal. That is standard procedures. If you are healthy, that shouldn't be a problem.
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I lost my job. That means I am running on my reserve tank. But, luckily my reserve tank is quite ok and can last 10 years. However, I feel there is no point in using up extra funds unless absolutely necessary. I am trying to CUT DOWN all expenses. In 10 years time, no one is dependent on me for a living. Can I discontinue my life insurance? By the way, I do not foresee employment that soon.
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post Oct 13 2009, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(Vitorbarbosa @ Oct 12 2009, 11:12 AM)
Hey Constant,

You do not lost your job. You are given a better opportunity by the god. What you need right now is to open your eyes, see it, believe in it and receive it.

When you search the internet, there are tonnes of business opportunity. You can become the boss now. And give people employment, instead of asking for one. Some can be started with low capital.

You are lucky to have this things happens to you, as you now can truly decide on what you want to do next. No more obligation to serve a company.


Added on October 12, 2009, 11:21 am@ Constant,

On the insurance,

Insurance is not for yourself only. If at that time you have no more dependant, you can still pass the proceeds to the unfortunate one and help them to build their lives.

And since you do not have any income now, the life insurance might be far more important than ever. I'm not sure if your term life is covered  with CI or disability but if that to happen, are you willing to risk spending your 10 years reserve to get you back on your legs?

I think you mentioned you have your H&S and Critical illness, but I suppose that 2 are separate from this term life that you intend to drop? If that is the case, then if something were to happen, how this term life can help you?

If it won't help you at all, then you should seriously considering dropping that to free up some expenses.

And your problem with no job is only temporary.


Added on October 12, 2009, 1:00 pmJust posted on another thread.

How much Insurance do I need?

Use the calculator I posted. If have any bug, do let me know.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1191591
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Hi Victor,

Yes. The CI and H&S is seperate from the term life. i am confused by your opinion. First, you say term life could be more important now since I am unemployed. Then, you say, it might not help me and maybe consider to drop it to reduce expenses. I am thinking along the line of the latter. I think the term life will not help me much because if I drop dead suddenly, my reserve funds is enough for my family for more than 10years because I am no longer in the picture(family spending less). If I fall sick, then H&S and CI will help to cover. I might increase just a bit of CI and then drop the term life. What do you think? Like you say, i am more concerned about medical expenses when I am alive compared to when i am dead. Just want to make sure I have not overlook anything. I am trying to cut down my unnecessary expenses. of course, if cash flow is not a problem, everybody will agree having more insurance is better than less.

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