First of all,
I would like to greet all of you with a big thank you. I really appreciate the willingness to help here since I have no knowledge on insurance. THANK YOU!
QUOTE(lcl832002 @ Apr 26 2009, 11:24 PM)
To me, as long as the plan is attractive to you, you should not think too much. If the plan is not attractive, then just don't buy it. Why? Every product in the market has its own strengths and weaknesses. We can never find a perfect product that suits all our insurance needs. There are too many plans in the market offered by 9 life insurers and 25 general insurers. How are we going to compare all the plans?
Product brochure is actually a important summary of a policy contract. You may ask the agents to give you the brochures of the plans they recommend you.
Like what I have written in my blog, if you find that the benefits you agent mentions to you before you buy a plan are not stated in your policy contract, you can choose to surrender it within 15 days from the date you receive your policy contract from your agent and get back all your money after deducting all the expenses incurred by an insurance company for processing your application.
To me, only the person who has the ability to predict his own future doesn't need any insurance plan.
To me, I cannot bring myself to commit on something just because it's attractive. For something we are going to pay for the next 30 years, we need it to be practical, to be worthy to every single cent of our hard earned money. If Benz, attractive, you buy boh? I think not. That's what I'm trying to say.
Yes, I am aware there are a lot of packages coming from every different brand in the insurance industry. All lucrative, all attractive. I cannot have all. Today, I will buy for myself, 5 years down the road, I have to buy for my children and possibly spouse, etc. How much we can commit, yes? I'm a normal working adult, not a rich kid or a business man. So, I cannot afford to go wrong here, thus I have to be careful with my choices.
Thank you a lot for your advise. It is helpful too but in a different perspective - I am grateful.
QUOTE(Tatsumaki @ Apr 27 2009, 12:58 AM)
Firstly, as a buyer I feel that you should know as much information as possible. What do I mean when I say that.
Some things which I personally deem important that you should know are:
Annual, Semi-Annual, Quarterly, Monthly Premium rates.
Is plan participating or non participating. If participating how at what rate does it grow
Is plan purely Life coverage or does it have riders attached
If participating plan, approximately when will plan be self-sufficient (if ever)
Surrender returns from year 1 until final year.
Detailed break down of Surrender value and/or death benefit from present day until end of year coverage.
For reference: Participating plans means that the policy earns dividens /interest
Non participating plan means policies do not earn dividend / interest.
I am not meaning to talk bad about Prudential or any insurance company, but as with
any product we as consumer / users before purchasing - we need to know all details about it including after sales service before making the decision.
In addition, with regards to you being single, you do need some sort of coverage. There are real life incidents which I can share if you are interested about people whom I know personally whom are single and had similar mentality. At the end of the day, the cash that you put aside for insurance isn't 'taken' by the company. You still can withdraw it later on in life if you wish to say, purchase a boat or property - that's do-able!
Yes, as a buyer I should need to know as much information as possible. Even when buying a computer, I do extensive research. Worry not, I will do extensive research before commiting into an insurance plan.
Thank you for the list of detailed information but there are a few things I do not understand (again, I have no idea about insurance).
I was advised to pay RM150 - RM300 monthly for the insurance plan. I am assuming RM150 is the lowest for PruLink. I believe it is a participating plan, meaning there is interest involved, 11% ROI based on previous years record but there are colleagues who warned me that Prudential buyers ended up break-even because they didnt do so well previously - not too sure if the news is true.
What is riders attached and surrender value?
Do share with me a few life experience, if you have any. I would like to dive more in-depth with this whole insurance thing. Thank you.
QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 27 2009, 02:15 AM)
Pennywise,
1) Insurance do not protect you if you lose your job and has NO INCOME. So, you NEED 3 to 6 months worth of emergency fund / savings first before you even talk about buying insurance.
2) If you have NO DEPENDENT aka nobody depend on you for support, why do you need life insurance?? Your DEATH represent no economic loss to ANYONE.
3) You MAY need some medical, PA, and disability protection when you are young But, before you buy, do you have any of those coverage from you job??
4) Can you afford to buy insurance?? If you cannot save 10% to 15% of your gross income after buying insurance, you cannot afford insurance.
Search on my posts.
I am NOT insurance agent. I am NOT interested in selling to YOU. Others are insurance agents. They ONLY make money when they sell insurance to you. So, how many of them will advice you not to buy insurance and break their own rice bowl??
Buyer beware!! Shop around.
Most young Malaysians overspend on insurance and ended with NO SAVINGS. So, when they lose their job, they can no longer pay insurance and they have NO COVERAGE. And, they are MORE LIKELY to lose their job than anything else. But, they are NOT protected.
Dreamer
Dreamer,
Insurance do not cover me if I lose my job and has no income but at the moment, I am not thinking of that. I am thinking of saving up, let the money get some interest and in case something happens to me, the beneficiary can receive some money.
I am single but I have parents and sisters. I do not mind making them my beneficiary and someday if I am married, there will be wife and kids too and buying later means higher premium = not worth it, yes?
Yes, I have a medical coverage from my job. I work in a MNC and will continue to work in different MNC which I believe at the minimal will provide medical benefits in the form of medical cards (like ING card). This was also why I thought since I have medical benefits from my job, should I not concentrate more elsewhere? Sort of like lower my coverage benefits but increase on my returns since my coverage also been covered by the company medical benefits but I do not know if this is applicable - just a thought.
Yes I can afford to buy insurance.
Thank you so much for a different perspective. I will NOT buy from anyone in the forum. I will source for my own and I know there are a lot of people / colleagues / friends out there who are insurance agents. It's not that I dont trust them but I want to come to the forum, voice out and see some different perspective, like yours!
It's great. Thank you!
QUOTE(richnet @ Apr 27 2009, 02:36 AM)
Hi Pennywise,
PruLink is an investment linked plan, which the basic, it will cover Death and Disability. The rest are optional and depend on the agent whether how they wanted to package for you. Most of them will also package a Critical Illness benefit and Medical Card into it.
PruCash is an endowment plan. And if I'm not mistaken, it's also based on investing into funds like the PruLink. You should ask your agent more about it.
Talking about no proposal before signing up ==> BULLSHIT !!
Added on April 27, 2009, 2:39 amI totally agree with what you replied here on lcl832002. Especially the bold words.

Added on April 27, 2009, 2:43 amlcl832002,
you're a Life Insurance Agent yourself, but looked at what you've replied on the forum, it's totally not professional at all. The information you have given is totally
INCORRECT!I dont think mine is package with medical card, only with critical illness benefits. I asked a lot about Prulink but all I'm given is hand drafted paper and I'm not quite satisfied with it.
I scribble something and ask you to pay RM200 for it for 30 years, you buy? I am sure not. This was how I ended up here.
QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 27 2009, 05:19 AM)
lcl832002,
If you as an insurance agent and you are TOO LAZY to come up a good plan that WORKS for your customer, why should ANYONE buy from YOU?? This is what we call customer service.
<<Every product in the market has its own strengths and weaknesses. We can never find a perfect product that suits all our insurance needs. >>
If you BELIEVE that you SHOULD NOT be an insurance agent. In fact, you are in NO BUSINESS selling ANYTHING. A good sales person SOLVE PROBLEM for their customer. They find out what the customer NEEDS and what they are WILLING to pay. Then, they PACKAGES the BEST combination that WORKS for the customer.
<<How are we going to compare all the plans?>>
It is YOUR JOB as a sales person to compare ALL PLANS. Then, come up a combination of YOUR PRODUCTS compete well against OTHERS and offer the BEST VALUE for a particular customer.
This is WHY some people are VERY SUCCESSFUL sales person while OTHERS are not.
A good sales person DO NOT SELL. They SOLVE customer problem.
Customer do not want to BUY. They want their problem SOLVED. They BUY from ANYONE that solve their problem.
Dreamer
P.S.: I used to be a sales manager. We cornered 50+% of our market. So, you could either learn or choose to ignore this advice from a sales veteran. No, I do not sale insurance. So, you can choose to believe what I posted is IRRELEVANT to selling insurance.
You must make a damn good sales manager. I'm impressed, really. And I do believe this isnt the first time you have advised me. I remember your name from way back when I've asked other questions in this section of the board. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge.