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post Oct 11 2010, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(vandoren @ Oct 11 2010, 10:25 AM)
i have some query regarding MLTA

my agent told me that i can assign my current insurance to MLTA. From what i understand, MLTA is some sort of life insurance, right?
but my agent advise me to assign my CI for MLTA, is that ok?
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MLTA = insurance for mortgage....
Do you have extra coverage?
if not, i think, you better don't assign it..
let your beneficiary to think about what to do with the fund..
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post Oct 11 2010, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(vandoren @ Oct 11 2010, 04:54 PM)
hi, thanks for reply. so, does that mean, CI can be assigned as MLTA?
my CI is 250K, while my loan amount is 135K
how do you think?  hmm.gif
the beneficiary actually is my mom
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As long as the policy is yours, you can assign to the bank.
But what for you assign it to the bank?
if you assign, you can get better rate?
btw, i dont think you can assign only 135k to the bank..
are you married?

MLTA/MRTA is actually insurance..
which means, if anything happens to you (for your case, critical illness/death and tpd), 135k will be used to repay the loan, and the rest 115k for your beneficiary...
why does your agent ask you to assign to bank for the first place?
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post Oct 12 2010, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(imran85 @ Oct 11 2010, 10:33 PM)
Any good life insurance to recommend? Basically more on medical. I am worried about falling sick and i am picky about being in uncomfortable places, thats why i want to have insurance. Any recommendations?
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There is not BEST policy in this world. But there are policy that might suits you.
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post Oct 12 2010, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(vandoren @ Oct 12 2010, 08:58 AM)
no, i will not get better rate if i assign it to bank loan.
i'm still single, what is the difference between single and married? mind explain?

my agent advise me to assign current insurance to the bank because if possible, i dont wish to increase my monthly spending on insurance.

currently i have one term life insurance 100K, CI 250K, and premier CI 25K with cash value
monthy payment cost 12.5% of salary.
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Then i don't understand why they ask you to assign to the bank. For me, i will not assign to the bank because after assigning to the bank, you have no rights on the policy anymore. Just my 2 cents..

is it term? non par policy?
which means, if death= 100k+250k+25k+dividend
if CI= 250k+25k+dividend and upon death RM 100k?
how long is your term?

If anythings happens to you, this fund will be paid to your mother. She has fully control of the fund.
But if you assign to the bank, the bank will fully repay the housing loan first. Then only pass the remaining to your mum.

Oh, regarding single or married. Before married, parents as nominee then the policy is a trust policy. If after married, then parents are not trust policy.
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post Oct 12 2010, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(vandoren @ Oct 12 2010, 08:39 PM)
hi, i'm very appreciate for your reply. i have 3 insurance
my term life@70, worth 100K if anything happen to me
CI 250K, no dividend, no value
CI 25K, with dividend, value grow by years

i understand that its better to assign a new life insurance to bank, but my current spending on insurance exceed 12% of my monthly salary, futhermore i haven't get my medical card yet, which i wish to buy later.
so, i'm now really no idea how to settle my MLTA.
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250k term @70 also?
Hmm, actually, you are secured at this moment even you don't assign to the bank.
If anything happened to you, your beneficiary will still get the money.
If you feel not comfortable, you can just assign the 100k term life to bank.
btw, how come you need so much coverage?
total of 375k..


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post Oct 14 2010, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(vandoren @ Oct 13 2010, 09:35 AM)
ya, total of 375K coverage  sweat.gif
when i bought, i have zero knowledge about insurance as i was newly graduated that time
thats why my agent said i could not buy a new MLTA as total coverage would exceed 500K, which need to do mecical check up and need to make application from insurance company

actually my bank loan had approved months ago.
i'm just worry if anything bad would happen if i didn't assign insurance to the bank loan.
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lol. Considering a very comprehensive planning for now and future, in my opinion, you buy too much term at this age.
But now, after getting your housing loan approved, then this 375k coverage is just nice. (still have 115k CI and 100k life.)
(ideal CI sum assured =3-5 times of your annual income)
Don't burden yourself with too much insurance. but try getting a medical card to make your whole planning comprehensive.
Dont worry, at your age ( i assume less than 28), you can buy more than 500k but you will need to do simple medical checkup if more than 500k.
btw, if you are healthy, why scare of doing medical checkup?
Still, why buying too much insurance?
go for saving and investment if possible. (equip yourself with investment knowledge before you start doing so)

Go ask a few more expert. See what them says.
Be happy. don't so stress la. make sure nomination is done properly will do.
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post Oct 14 2010, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(vandoren @ Oct 14 2010, 10:55 AM)
thanks for your helpful advise  thumbup.gif
i think i will assign my CI to bank and my mom
then in future, may try to look for a medical card which suit my need
i'm now already invest around 10K in public mutual, but the return is very slow
anyway, its long term investment, i can wait.
for other investment, i still need to study more before start tongue.gif
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If me, i will assign life.
CI, i might need those money to cure my illness and pay for my living expenses

Leave your mum as nominee will do. not assign.
Assign means the rights and ownership of the policy will be under the assignee..
that's why i prefer not to assign to the bank.

Lol. as long as you are not losing money in unit trust. It's a good begining.
Many suffer lose at the very begining of the investment process.

FOr shares and unit trust, make sure you don't do one lump sum investment. Split it into smaller lots.
If you are very confidende or have internal tips, 100% guaranteed correct, then what i say about lump sum is not valid la..

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post Nov 18 2010, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Nov 18 2010, 12:54 AM)
Anyone know more about this plan

GE protectlink?

I can't find at GE website
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It's a old ILP plan of GEL..

medical card wise seems like no coinsurance and upto 3 times of annual limit.
But cancer treatment and kidney dialysis only 25k per annum..
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post Nov 30 2010, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(Pseudonym @ Nov 30 2010, 05:05 PM)
I think already surrender, and the payment has been made by main branch. The main problem is no one is doing the following up work and it's my fault to have trusted the agent completely.  sad.gif  Do you think it'll work if i write a letter to the main branch, stating the agent in charge and hope that they will take action on her?
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Have no comment on the agent's quality.

Hmm, what action you suppose them to take?

As i know, they will only send some sort of warning letter to prevent such case repeating. Maybe they will ask for explanation etc...

Not much discipline action can be taken UNLESS the agent fake the cheque etc...
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post Dec 5 2010, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(laksaUTARA @ Dec 5 2010, 12:48 AM)
i have a dilemma, i took XX  life insurance  pay for RM200 per month ( starting 2007)  this cover only if i'm dead  ... and if i live  up till 2027 , i'll most likely get around 40K++ . If i got illness , the insurance only cover me RM50.00 (sad.gif ), now i am confuse :-

1. should i stop this insurance (75%  only  can be claim)
  , took another insurance  which cover medical  ....
    am going 30 next year
2. still pursue this insurance and get another medical insurannce that can
  cover me for medical purposes .. RM50 per night??? sound ridiculous

* i took life insurance policy , only after 4 years can terminate the contract and get 75%  back sad.gif
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Actually, i think you don't understand what is with your plan. Kindly check with your agent..coz i doubt that it has plan that only covers for RM 50?!
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post Dec 11 2010, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 8 2010, 07:40 PM)
Anyone know for ING ILP plan

Let say Mr A buy 100k life/TPD and 100k 36CI.

If Mr A kene CI,he claim 100k, then Mr kene TPD again,so can Mr A claim TPD 100k ?

Is it work this way?

Or only can claim one of it only( TPD or 36 CI ) ????
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If you want to claim 100k for CI and then another 100k for TPD/death,

You might need to buy 200k life/tpd and 100k CI

It is all the same for other company unless it is otherwise stated.

Usually with a "plus "word"

If he buy 100k life/tpd and 100k CI,

he can claim 100k for CI (T&C) and then another 100k for TPD/death

The premium for "plus" should be cheaper because if death, normal plan will pay 200k but "plus" is paying 100k only.
100k extra life/tpd for @age 30 (ILP) is only about RM135...
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post Dec 20 2010, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(mwkh_hope @ Dec 20 2010, 11:22 AM)
Hi guys, I'm seeking advice for insurance for myself, but I'm still a student yet I can't really afford to get too expensive insurance.

Mind to intro which insurance company that has better offer? or the pro N cons.
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hmm, i think, all the company is the same. Just the plans are different, t&c etc...

btw, you are from AUS? If possible, get a medical plan there first.
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post Dec 30 2010, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 29 2010, 07:52 PM)
Health expenses are actually quite manageable except when terminal diseases of cancer, diabetes strikes.

Cancer treatments commonly available in Malaysia include chemo and radio therapies. The next gen, already popular in more sophisticated societies are Molecular Targeted Therapies, where only the harmful cells are targeted. Downside is, cost for an advanced cancer can go as high as RM500,000 per treatment. Other than the rich who needs no insurance, insurance is the best way out for most of us.

Diabetes or specifically kidney dialysis is ever recurring and very costly.

Now why are AIA and AXA policies the worst: -

1. Look carefully at the contractual wordings aka fine prints, you will see that cancer out-patient and kidney-dialysis are the only 2 classes of treatment with lifetime cap.

So a promise of RM500,000 lifetime limit is not very useful when cancer outpatient is capped at RM20,000; right?
And kidney dialysis capped also at RM20,000.

Allianz policies do not cap, as long as the lifetime limit has not been exhausted, you can continue using the limits allocated.

2. For non cancer and non diabetic (kidney) related treatments, insurance companies don't lose alot. A complicated triple heart bypass only cost RM30K - 50K everywhere in Malaysia, that is nothing.

That is why the only company that make handsome profits from health insurance policies is AIA.

3. AIA policy even has stage claims, if you read the contractual wordings for all health products, you will find AIA's products most complex. And it is hardest to claim. That is why they offer the highest limit.

4. Co-insurance. Allianz is bad in this area, because if room and board entitlement is breached, 20% of overall bill has to be absorbed by the patient. ING & GE does not have such requirement.
5. Excess. Look out for excess in health insurance policies, introduced in 2006 by Bank Negara intervention. First RM500 or RM1000 to be paid by insured, to curb suka-suka masuk hospital. Modern day policies do not have such clauses anymore - if u have pls change.
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If not mistaken, GE does have such 20% co insurance with no max cap if stay in >R&B limit
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post Jan 5 2011, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jan 4 2011, 07:06 PM)
I don't want to sell the UT to cash out 1st.

I want to wait the right time when the UT is high price then only cash out.

So there is it possible to keep the UT but cancel all the rider+basic/life/tpd ?
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Reduce the sum assured to the lowest possible and keep only basic plan (cancel all riders). Do this only if you DO NOT need any insurance coverage and you are clear about what you are doing wink.gif
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post Jan 9 2011, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(snowyteddy @ Jan 8 2011, 08:31 PM)
izit good if a insurance saving plan is 2 in 1??which de saving plan is with de interest of 4 to 6% per year??
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You should study abit on various plan offered in the market, let it be traditional-par and non par as well as investment-linked.

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post Jan 9 2011, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(chuken123 @ Jan 9 2011, 09:48 PM)
may i know any type of medical insurance that i can buy for my parent ? they are now 45 and 50 years old and i am working now...thanks


Added on January 9, 2011, 9:49 pmmay i know any type of medical insurance that i can buy for my parent ? they are now 45 and 50 years old and i am working now...thanks
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You can get the a medical insurance and maybe some critical illness coverage for them..
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post Jan 18 2011, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 18 2011, 11:50 AM)
Is Allianz rate better than other insurance?
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you can compare the rate based on per 1000 sum assured..

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post Jul 19 2011, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(ResQ @ Jul 18 2011, 08:31 PM)
i'm 21 this year and non-smoker, can anyone recommend me which insurance shud i take? prefer rm50 permonth
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A medical card + CI term should be fine with it.
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post Aug 12 2011, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(itsybitsy @ Aug 12 2011, 05:19 PM)
Hi, I need some advice about medical insurance. I currently have a medical card from my company and I don't own any medical/H&S insurance myself. I'm wondering if I should buy one for myself now or wait to buy one when I'm about to retire? If I only buy the medical insurance later in life, I save quite a bit of money.

From my understanding, the premium for medical/H&S insurance is not fixed like PA, where PA it's good to buy when young.
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1st you should find out, what is the limitation for your medical card from your company. What is the annual limit, lifetime limit and will they exclude the illness upon claim?
Medical card from Employee benefits usually is very limited.
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post Aug 24 2011, 12:11 AM

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Normally, for life insurance, the premium is guaranteed for traditional plan, non guarateed for ILP.
Whereas for medical card, the premium is guaranteed NOT GUARANTEED wink.gif

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