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 INSURANCE TALK, ok let start

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post Mar 11 2013, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(joseph8 @ Mar 11 2013, 06:25 PM)
Hence, when you are healthy, get one. Insurance are bought with health, not wealth.
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Hi Joseph,

I'm looking to ride on a medikad on my AddVantage Plus. I just want a fairly basic coverage, tak payah sampai stay in single-bed hospital room.

SmartMedic 150 or 200? And SmartMedic Enhancer looks to me is more of a "luxury" than a "need" hmm.gif

Pls advice notworthy.gif
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post Mar 11 2013, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Mar 11 2013, 07:11 PM)
If no one want to entertain you boss, our doors are WIDE open  laugh.gif
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u really laugh.gif

"It is not advisable to terminate a policy in its early years due to ... ... ..." tongue.gif

QUOTE(roystevenung @ Mar 11 2013, 07:11 PM)
But seriously, where are you from? KL or Penang? If Penang, I can ask my brother in GE to help you :-)
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吉隆坡. U banana ka? whistling.gif

My agent is usually at Taiping doh.gif

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post Mar 11 2013, 07:17 PM

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seriously, sometimes I feel that most agents don't like knowledgeable clients like me bcos I ask too much and I know my maths
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post Mar 11 2013, 07:59 PM

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aku orang kl tongue.gif
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post Mar 11 2013, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(joseph8 @ Mar 11 2013, 08:18 PM)
For your info, are you aware that there is also SM100?

Most of my client chose SM150 because the price of SM150 is the most fairly priced compared to SM100 and SM200.
If you see your agent's quotation and compare it side by side you will see it clearly. Unless you want highest medical limit of these 3 then it is SM200.
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Ok, i think i pick the middle package will do. thx. smile.gif

btw, add on medikad, kena submit medical repot? my policy bought a few years ago
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post Mar 11 2013, 09:01 PM

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ok, all my queries settled, thanx Joseph biggrin.gif
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(foxtrotalpha @ Mar 17 2013, 12:36 AM)
Hi ppl, a quick question. Why do insurance charges go up as we age but premiums do not?  What happens if the insurance charges higher than the premium? Its quite confusing smile.gif
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When insurance charges > (accumulated) premiums, your policy will lapse and the coverage terminate.

That's where the policy projection comes in handy...

The agent will do a projection of insurance charges, and he/she will propose a monthly/annual premium that should be sufficient to cover the charges.

In the early years, your premiums paid will exceed the charges by a comfortable margin, that is when u accumulate your cash values for the later years when your premium paid might not be sufficient to cover the charges.

Of course, the flexibility of Investment-Linked Policies allows you to top up your premiums and/or increase the regular premium if you wish to.

Btw, I'm not an agent, just sharing my knowledge. wink.gif
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post Mar 17 2013, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(foxtrotalpha @ Mar 17 2013, 10:45 AM)
Pink Spider thanks
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roystevenung yeah sure.
Anyway y is it advisable to buy insurance at young age since the charges will go up anyway as we age?
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U start early hence build up the cash value "reserve" early with the excess of premiums paid over insurance charges, the "reserve" will help u cover the shortfall of premium vs charges in your later years.
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post Mar 30 2013, 11:07 AM

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Calling Great Eastern agents...

29 yrs old male, non-smoker
RM150K assured for life and TPD
Great Income Rider (RM500 per month)
SmartMedic 150
Premium waiver on TPD/CI
No need for CI cover cos I got another CI policy already

What is the optimal monthly premium I need to pay (minimum required to keep policy from out of cash to pay insurance charges)?

Reply here, don't PM me, thanks.
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QUOTE(AskChong @ Mar 30 2013, 11:47 AM)
How about other company with better plan, if...?
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No, because I already got an ILP with GE, a few years already. I wanted to add on a medikad, but my agent keep persuading me to top up my premium. So, I just wanted to check with other agents whether I can maintain my premium. smile.gif

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post Mar 30 2013, 02:33 PM

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Roy Steve, some insurers already launch policies that pays on initial stage of CI/DD, but not full la, only partial payout.

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QUOTE(ExpZero @ Mar 31 2013, 03:49 PM)
Ask your agent to provide you the illustration from ILP calculator. I'm unable to provide you a good projection because I can't factorize the cash value in your policy.

however, 2000/year is a suitable premium for the above plan.
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Hi there,

Thanks for the reply. My current premium is at 200+/month, and he said takut not enuff sweat.gif

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Mar 31 2013, 04:57 PM)
I can provide you with a projected of when your insurance charges is bound to overtake your premium and eats up on your cash value.... brows.gif
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Eat nvm, its expected since i buy for protection. Janji jangan lapse sweat.gif
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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Mar 31 2013, 04:57 PM)
I can provide you with a projected of when your insurance charges is bound to overtake your premium and eats up on your cash value.... brows.gif
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Eat nvm, its expected since i buy for protection. Janji jangan lapse sweat.gif
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QUOTE(great.eastern @ Apr 1 2013, 08:29 PM)
As requested > No PM.

RM170 monthly.
Package
RM150K assured for life and TPD
Great Income Rider (RM15,000 per month)
= a unit deduction rider that provides coverage in the event of Total and Permanent Disability (TPD)
= pay 10% of RM15,000 until age 70.
SmartMedic 150 Room & Board (Maximum to RM200)
Premium waiver on TPD only.
NO 36CI covered.

Minimum RM170 month for above plan. icon_rolleyes.gif
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I think something not right with ur GINCR...RM15K a month??? If i tak silap, GINCR pays 10% p.a., so to get RM500 a month, need sum assured of RM60K. I just checked my policy, my GINCR SA=RM120K. I'll keep it untouched.

And I got Waivrr of Premium "Plus", I understand that it also waives on CI/DD, no?

Thanks~
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post Apr 1 2013, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Apr 1 2013, 08:48 PM)
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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Apr 1 2013, 08:52 PM)
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Rm15k/mth income for Rm170 premium? Sure bo?
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I'd b more than happy to be cacat and take 15k a month blush.gif
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QUOTE(great.eastern @ Apr 1 2013, 10:06 PM)
Typo error - is RM15K for the GINCR. NOT MONTHLY.

Yes. Waiver for TPD. Since no CI inside your policy.
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RM15K for GINCR, means Sum Assured RM150K, correct?

My premium waiver plan code is U63 - IL Waiver of Premium Plus.
U sure no waiver on CI/DD? Contrary to my understanding la... hmm.gif

Anyway I don't think got CI/DD waiver or not won't be much impact, I guess I can safely reach a conclusion that RM200+ a month should be fairly comfortable for my coverage.

Thanks ya...for helping even though u know for sure I ain't gonna be a prospect (at least for now) notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(great.eastern @ Apr 1 2013, 10:34 PM)
RM15K for GINCR, means Sum Assured RM150K, correct?
>>> Minimum is RM15,000.
>>> Maybe yours policy is RM150,000.

My premium waiver plan code is U63 - IL Waiver of Premium Plus.
U sure no waiver on CI/DD? Contrary to my understanding la... hmm.gif
>>> I am refer to U102 IL PWE - Premium Waiver Extra Rider.
>>> My agency practise include the best waiver (Premium Waiver Extra Rider)

Congratulation to have the best policy in town.
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QUOTE(ExpZero @ Apr 1 2013, 11:05 PM)
You are right, GINCR pays 10% p.a.
Yes, it waives on CI/DD
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QUOTE(wwl86 @ Apr 1 2013, 11:00 PM)
thumbup.gif  Yup, That's the way it is.
Majority people wont be thinking the way you did.
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My policy GINCR's SA = RM120K
Means if I kena TPD, I will get RM120K x 10% = RM12K every year, right? I have the plan document with me icon_rolleyes.gif

Mine is AddVantage Plus, GE now no longer offers it. This plan will increase the Sum Assured on Life/TPD by 5% every year for 20 years, so that on policy year 20 the SA will be at 200% of the initial SA. Probably my agent is worried about my cash value not enough to cover for the insurance charges at later years when the SA is high. I guess I have these 2 options:
(1) manually reducing the SA to override the 5% a year auto increase of SA
(2) if I need the increase of SA, pump in Premium Top Up

Thanks all~ notworthy.gif

I know what to do now smile.gif

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post Apr 17 2013, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(Veda @ Apr 17 2013, 04:51 PM)
You can go for General Insurance instead of Life Insurance, standalone instead of investment linked.

By mixing and matching several standalone plans, I've got RM250k annual limit and RM1.15 million lifetime limit for H&S, RM220k for CI, RM180k for PA. And that's not counting company insurance. All for less than RM100 per month.
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Pls share how u do it notworthy.gif

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