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HHalphaomega
post May 24 2010, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(chew_ronnie @ May 24 2010, 02:48 PM)
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Thanks Chew_ronnie. biggrin.gif


Added on May 24, 2010, 3:36 pm
QUOTE(vandoren @ May 24 2010, 03:22 PM)
Thanks HH, great explanation!
I will pass the msg to my bf and let him to decide smile.gif
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You're welcome Vandoren. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by HHalphaomega: May 24 2010, 03:36 PM
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post May 24 2010, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(chew_ronnie @ May 24 2010, 03:41 PM)
What u say is exactly true. The plan he got from Pulbic Mutual covers until 70 only. Thats also one of the limitations.
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It's a group scheme insurance hence I suppose there's bound to be some inadequacies.

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post Sep 1 2010, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(simonhtz @ Sep 1 2010, 05:15 PM)
Sifus-Sifus sekalian,

First of all, I'd like to thank everybody here for contributing information, ideas and discussion for this thread, it really really help a lot.

I took up insurance a couple of years ago without knowing what is covered and what is not, and have no idea what I'm paying for.

I need your advise here, I have 2 insurance policies with, but I would like to start with my first one (ILP, I draw out the detailed below from e-Connect site, so most probably GE insurance agents can dicypher the information below):-

Total Installment Premium: 150.00 (Pay monthly, I was told by my agent that the premium payment stops after 14 years)

Details as follows:-
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GREAT PROTECTLINK INSURANCE    100,000.00
CRITICAL ILLNESS BENEFIT RIDER  100,000.00
IL-HEALTH PROTECTOR                    200.00 <- this guys comes with my car-plate registration number attached to it

ILP FUND DETAILS
Fund Name  Fund Units Price Eff. Date  Bid Price *Fund Value  Apportionment Rate(%) Fund Due Date
Lion Strategic Fund 824.48  27/08/2010  1.56  1,289.49  100.00    13/09/2010

POLICY VALUES
Surrender Value of SA 0.00 Net Surrender Value 0.00
Surrender Value of RB 0.00 Net Policy Loan Value 0.00
Surrender Value of TB 0.00 *Total Investment Value (for ILP only) 1,289.49
Gross Surrender Value 0.00 Accumulated RB as at  0.00

Alright, the data above might be a little scrambled, hopefully some GE agent will be able to make sense out of this, my questions are:-

1. For monthly commitment, am I paying too much for a month for the above?

2. Is the coverage sufficient?

3. For the 'investment-linked' portion, does it look good? (Well from what I read so far, investment-linked doesn't really cut it out..)

4. Can I restructure the premium (to be cheaper) and allocation so that I adjust the sum assurred to be higher or something?

5. Any other information I need to be aware of? I tried to reading the darn policy document...can't really understand much though... rclxub.gif

If there's anything, I willing to meet up with any the agents here. Basically I need more information, more comparisons and options. Much appreciated guys.

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Z Yuan
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Simonhtz,

You have a protection oriented product from GE.

A1) I would say the plan is good though it could have been a designed slightly different. This is my opinion.

A2) This is best answered by yourself as you would know best how much you're worth based on human live value as well as liabilities at hand.

A3) This plan focuses on protection hence the investment values to me are bonuses in addition to the protection offered. Apart from that ILP policies grow their investment values slowly and tend to fluctuate due to market condition.

A4) Yes you may reduce or even increase the premium and adjust the basic sum assured and/or riders which may alter your premiums payable.

A5) Well you should know your policy could lack (since it was posted here) waiver of premiums riders. Apart from that I don't see any major issues now.

Moving on, if you still need to meet up to review your policy, I'm more than happy to assist you over a cuppa. As a matter of principle, could you please allow me to ask what happened to your current servicing GE agent?

Cheers,

HH

HHalphaomega
post Sep 2 2010, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(simonhtz @ Sep 2 2010, 11:10 AM)
Thanks for the prompt reply!

For 2:-
$100,000, is this sufficient for any operation and hospitalization, I mean for the current medical trend in Malaysia now?

For 4 & 5:-
How do I find the rider portion in my policy? Is the 'investment-linked' portion's the rider? I'm just thinking if there's anything other that the medical benefits and IL portion, I thought of taking out (hopefully can decrease my premium a little)

My current servicing GE agent haven't been turning up lately. I do some spend some time on the phone with him on asking him to explain my policy, but the explanation didn't really drill into my head. rclxub.gif Plus, my credit card for auto-debit expired, I wanted to meet him up so that he could help me update my credit card details...he hasn't called / turned up yet...=.=;

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Hi Simonhtz,

The rider "IL-HEALTH PROTECTOR" 200.00 would take care of your operation and hospitalization. The annual limit is RM100K with lifetime limit of RM300K.

The latest medical rider for ILP policies is SmartMedic series which has lifetime limit up to RM1.6 million.

All benefits other than Basic Sum Assured are riders for your policy. Let me know if you need any further info or help with regards to your policy.

Cheers,

HH







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post Sep 2 2010, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(simonhtz @ Sep 2 2010, 12:47 PM)
Alright, another thing for this Life insurance, what am I suppose to look at? What's the main purpose of life insurance and what is the expected premium like?

From what I'm thinking, is there any policy that can do the following:-
1. If I die, a natural death / accidental / CL / went missing (probably die from earth quake, can't recover body), this policy would be pay x amount of money to my nominee? (Let's say pay to my wife or dad)

2. If the above happened, the policy would able to cover my outstanding loans and debts, don't have credit card debts though, but house loans most likely

Would a typical life policy able to do this?

All comments are much appreciated!

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Simonhtz,

The perception of life insurance differs from how one defines it individually. However the fact remains that it's the best available vehicle to be used to protect income, life style and even take care of liabilities arising from disability, death or critical illness.

A1. Yes the policy would pay out the Basic Sum assured to your nominees provided they're able to provide proof that your dead. The legal document for this must be present for the claim to go through.

A2. This depends if your policy has sufficient coverage to be used to settle off your liabilities. For an example, if you have a home loan with outstanding amount of RM 200K then a policy of that quantum is good to be used to settle it.

You can assign the policy to the bank but I would recommend you to put in writing in your will together with your other estates specifying the purpose.

Cheers,

HH



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post Nov 19 2010, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Nov 19 2010, 11:25 PM)
Yes.

20% rules still apply.

But one of GE claim that it will not be charge if its FORCED case.

http://cforum1.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?...e=2#pid81262576

Any GE agent here?
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Hi MNet,

If the room upgrade comes as a forced circumstances such as quarantined wards (SARS etc) then it would not be passed on to the policyholder. If the customer upgrades due to unavailability of their entitlement then there's a leniency of up to RM50, anything beyond that would be subjected to the ruling clause above.

Cheers,

HH
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post Dec 20 2010, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(mwkh_hope @ Dec 20 2010, 11:22 AM)
Hi guys, I'm seeking advice for insurance for myself, but I'm still a student yet I can't really afford to get too expensive insurance.

Mind to intro which insurance company that has better offer? or the pro N cons.
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Hi,

It's good that you're taking a positive step towards planning your life. Don't worry about the cost as you can get a decent coverage nowadays with minimum outlay of RM100 - RM150 thanks to the advent of ILP products.

Most insurers offer similar product differentiated by their key selling points. Apart from the product, choosing a reliable agent is a must when you're buying insurance for guidance & support.

Cheers,

HH

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post Dec 20 2010, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(ubsacc2004 @ Dec 20 2010, 06:08 PM)
to me life insurance , medical card policy.
will buy when i getting married.
of course for protection when go for operation. need a lot of money.
and when died, my wife still have a stable life.
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Hi,

In my opinion, you don't have to get married first to buy insurance biggrin.gif as the core principal of insurance is that a man may face the 3Ds anytime. Getting married doesn't increase your life risk in any manner but it does increase your responsibilities.

Cheers,

HH

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post Dec 20 2010, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 20 2010, 06:37 PM)
Its still same.

If u no believe u can ask the agent generate COI.

For example now u 25yr old,COI is RM100 but when u 30 yr old COI is RM200

Then you can ask agent to quote another ppl which current age is 30 yr old the COI is also RM200
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Age does have a role in the premiums. Don't forget other factors such as health condition, inflation etc.

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post Dec 20 2010, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 20 2010, 06:46 PM)
Yes but doesn't translate into the COI is same when u start buy the insurance.

Let say A buy insurance at 25yr old COI is RM100 then 5 yr later the COI is not the same already it RM200 already.

B buy insurance at 30 yr old,the COI is RM200.

So its the agent told u that buy early then the COI is cheap is completely a lie.
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There's few ways to look at it actually as it also depends on the plan purchased. I've got a traditional plan that I bought when I was 21 and it gave me RM70K for just RM101.00. For the same sum of money, I can't get the same plan even for a 21 year old person now.

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post Dec 20 2010, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 20 2010, 07:24 PM)
I toking about ILP
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OK noted MNet. I didn't want it to be misconceived by other as a blanket rule. smile.gif

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post Dec 21 2010, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 20 2010, 08:06 PM)
Looking for PA standalone.

Any recommend?
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I've got for myself Centennial PA. You can read about it at Centennial PA

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post Dec 22 2010, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(mwkh_hope @ Dec 21 2010, 10:36 PM)
I'm at Australia currently, just a student, but I'm from Msia. Currently holding medic bank which doesnt cover much as a insurance.

Well, I'm thinking to get one as a "insurance" for myself and possible a little investment, I know it's a long term investment, but I wouldn';t mind start small.
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Well do you plan to come back to Malaysia? When would you complete your studies in Australia?
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post Dec 24 2010, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(mwkh_hope @ Dec 23 2010, 08:25 PM)
I do plan to go bck Msia la but then it would be better if there is an oversea insurance coverage as beside the medicbank that every student must have, i think it would be better to get one for myself.
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The reason I asked is because almost all medical card would have a clause that says you're not covered if you reside overseas for 60 or 90 days continuously.

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post Dec 25 2010, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 24 2010, 12:48 PM)
if u work at SG but stay at johor still can
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Yes, this is possible.

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post Jul 19 2011, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(ResQ @ Jul 18 2011, 08:31 PM)
i'm 21 this year and non-smoker, can anyone recommend me which insurance shud i take? prefer rm50 permonth
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Ideally an ILP product to get a decent medical card, life cover together with CI benefits. The minimum starts at RM100.

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post Aug 12 2011, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(itsybitsy @ Aug 12 2011, 05:19 PM)
Hi, I need some advice about medical insurance. I currently have a medical card from my company and I don't own any medical/H&S insurance myself. I'm wondering if I should buy one for myself now or wait to buy one when I'm about to retire? If I only buy the medical insurance later in life, I save quite a bit of money.

From my understanding, the premium for medical/H&S insurance is not fixed like PA, where PA it's good to buy when young.
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As mentioned by MaxWealth, employer sponsored medical benefits are usually limited in their offering unless you're talking about blue chip firms or premium GLCs. So it's best to have this further checked with your HR department.

As to buying the medical card towards retirement could save you lots of money however you need to face the risk of not being insured later on should you contract any serious illness in this period.

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QUOTE(advanced @ Jul 19 2012, 12:05 AM)
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pls let me know if you need more info,tq
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Hi,

This is an whole life plan that provides coverage for death & TPD. The maturity of the plan is at 99 years hence the payment should be continued till then contractually but most people would surrender much earlier. I believe this was purchased when you were 6 years old & has hospitalisation benefit as well as payor benefit rider attached.

Cheers,

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