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post Jul 14 2011, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(lingloong @ Jul 14 2011, 05:40 PM)
FSP HEXA 400/500W is very good spec on the paper & "drooling"  drool.gif  with it's current offer/selling price. Saw a lot recommend them in this topic.

But IMO, after building some rig for my customer, I notice few flaws on this model. I guess that's justified the price / product offered. Not to "boikot" them but only want to express my opinion and any HEXA 400/500W user ca nshare your view too  smile.gif

1. 4+4pin cable for motherboard is shorter than other brand PSU, it's impossible to route from the back of the motherboard for neat cable management. Try on the CM Elite 430, Thermaltake V3 & Aerocool VS-9, all phailed  laugh.gif

2. Cable is not nicely sleeved, make it look like cheapo PSU. And not all cable is sleeved

3. And this PSU kinda light, again make it feel "kinda cheapo" or "cap ayam". It's lot lighter than other model like Seasonic, CM, SST, Corsair or Acbel @ 500W range models. Normally good PSU you can feel it's weight as good quality parts ect it's transformer, the heavier the better. The terms is like gold, "lagi berat, lagi best". It's more like the build "feel" solid and "ada UMPH!"
~ correct me if I'm wrong, maybe new technology from FSP in PSU can produce good quality PSU with light stuff  blush.gif

4. Power cable NOT included in package

For system builder and personal preference, my 1st choice will be Corsair CX500, 2nd will be Seasonic SP 500W & 3rd will be SST ST50F-ES if ya all looking for solid 500W PSU in term of quality, features, build & price/performance. All 3 models price range RM199-RM225 if you survey around garage sale or lowyat plaza

Suppose Seasonic S12II-520W will be my all time favorite/recommendation but as u guys know, this PSU is not avaialble in our market anymore  sad.gif

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1. Yeap, too short.. even reaching to the pin is just nice, do not mention about re-routing for cable management.

2. only the 20+4 is sleeved.

3. I tried weighting the hexa 500w and Strider 500, it is just a bit lighter.

4. Mine has cable provided in the package.

This post has been edited by mugenz: Jul 14 2011, 05:45 PM
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post Jul 14 2011, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(lingloong @ Jul 14 2011, 05:40 PM)
FSP HEXA 400/500W is very good spec on the paper & "drooling"  drool.gif  with it's current offer/selling price. Saw a lot recommend them in this topic.

But IMO, after building some rig for my customer, I notice few flaws on this model. I guess that's justified the price / product offered. Not to "boikot" them but only want to express my opinion and any HEXA 400/500W user can share your view too  smile.gif

1. 4+4pin cable for motherboard is shorter than other brand PSU, it's impossible to route from the back of the motherboard for neat cable management. Try on the CM Elite 430, Thermaltake V3 & Aerocool VS-9, all phailed  laugh.gif
Same apply to it's 24pin

2. Cable is not nicely sleeved, make it look like cheapo PSU. And not all cable is sleeved

3. And this PSU kinda light, again make it feel "kinda cheapo" or "cap ayam". It's lot lighter than other model like Seasonic, CM, SST, Corsair or Acbel @ 500W range models. Normally good PSU you can feel it's weight as good quality parts ect it's transformer, the heavier the better. The terms is like gold, "lagi berat, lagi best". It's more like the build "feel" solid and "ada UMPH!"
~ correct me if I'm wrong, maybe new technology from FSP in PSU can produce good quality PSU with light stuff  blush.gif

4. Power cable NOT included in package

For system builder and personal preference, my 1st choice will be Corsair CX500, 2nd will be Seasonic SP 500W & 3rd will be SST ST50F-ES if ya all looking for solid 500W PSU in term of quality, features, build & price/performance. All 3 models price range RM199-RM225 if you survey around garage sale or lowyat plaza

Suppose Seasonic S12II-520W will be my all time favorite/recommendation but as u guys know, this PSU is not avaialble in our market anymore  sad.gif

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Well, those is more like outer built or the 'solidity'. But the quality of FSP is wink.gif what we want is the quality and how this PSU can support a system without fail, not some outer stuff.
of course PSU like Silverstone Strider is another RM50 more? no?

and uhm, I thought Hexa is a relabeled version of the previous SAGAII?

This post has been edited by TechnoG: Jul 14 2011, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jul 14 2011, 05:58 PM)
Well, those is more like outer built or the 'solidity'. But the quality of FSP is wink.gif what we want is the quality and how this PSU can support a system without fail, not some outer stuff.
of course PSU like Silverstone Strider is another RM50 more? no?

and uhm, I thought Hexa is a relabeled version of the previous SAGAII?
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Well, mind to "spoon feed" as I hardly find reviews for this PSU in website with the help of google tongue.gif

Manufacturer can label the spec on the paper but I'm hardly convince by them as I trust more in 3rd party reviewer biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(lingloong @ Jul 14 2011, 06:45 PM)
Well, mind to "spoon feed" as I hardly find reviews for this PSU in website with the help of google  tongue.gif

Manufacturer can label the spec on the paper but I'm hardly convince by them as I trust more in 3rd party reviewer  biggrin.gif

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kingkingyyk owns both Hexa 500W and SAGAII 500W, and from what he concluded, both of them is the same. smile.gif Hexa is a relabeled version of SAGAII.

don't you trust FSP? tongue.gif ada banyak manufacturer guna OEM, bang. Be Quiet! etc.
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QUOTE(lingloong @ Jul 14 2011, 05:40 PM)
FSP HEXA 400/500W is very good spec on the paper & "drooling"  drool.gif  with it's current offer/selling price. Saw a lot recommend them in this topic.

But IMO, after building some rig for my customer, I notice few flaws on this model. I guess that's justified the price / product offered. Not to "boikot" them but only want to express my opinion and any HEXA 400/500W user can share your view too  smile.gif

1. 4+4pin cable for motherboard is shorter than other brand PSU, it's impossible to route from the back of the motherboard for neat cable management. Try on the CM Elite 430, Thermaltake V3 & Aerocool VS-9, all phailed  laugh.gif
Same apply to it's 24pin

2. Cable is not nicely sleeved, make it look like cheapo PSU. And not all cable is sleeved

3. And this PSU kinda light, again make it feel "kinda cheapo" or "cap ayam". It's lot lighter than other model like Seasonic, CM, SST, Corsair or Acbel @ 500W range models. Normally good PSU you can feel it's weight as good quality parts ect it's transformer, the heavier the better. The terms is like gold, "lagi berat, lagi best". It's more like the build "feel" solid and "ada UMPH!"
~ correct me if I'm wrong, maybe new technology from FSP in PSU can produce good quality PSU with light stuff  blush.gif

4. Power cable NOT included in package

For system builder and personal preference, my 1st choice will be Corsair CX500, 2nd will be Seasonic SP 500W & 3rd will be SST ST50F-ES if ya all looking for solid 500W PSU in term of quality, features, build & price/performance. All 3 models price range RM199-RM225 if you survey around garage sale or lowyat plaza

Suppose Seasonic S12II-520W will be my all time favorite/recommendation but as u guys know, this PSU is not avaialble in our market anymore  sad.gif

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actually i got extra budget from rm300 n below to RM350 n below... rclxm9.gif how about SeaSonic X560 560W 80Plus Gold its only RM350!! seems to be a good deal... drool.gif what do you think guyz

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The weight of a power supply used to be used by people to determine the power supply's quality, but now it's no longer accurate as technology has advanced to a point where power supplies can now provide more power with components that weigh less.

As for cable sleeving, it actually depends on the individual. While it may be an eyesore for some, lets face it; you get what you pay for. RM159 for a 500W power supply is pretty cheap. If you demand the rest of the Hexa cables to be sleeved, then be prepared to pay extra. Even without its cable sleeved, an individual's cable management for his or her system still can be very good provided that the chassis itself has the appropriate cable management holes.

Anyway, I believe the Hexa power supply is not only one that suffers from a 4+4 CPU power connector that's too short, my previous Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500W and even the Cooler Master Real Power Pro 650W power supply have a CPU power connector that's too short to be routed through the back of the motherboard tray and out from the top. These three power supplies are probably not the only power supplies that suffer from such an issue.

In my opinion, I'd say that FSP made it ( HEXA ) in such a way because they had low-budget users in mind, as in users that do not own chassis that is designed according to our decade's standard, e.g chassis that still has its power supply location located at the top instead of the bottom.

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post Jul 16 2011, 08:48 PM

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Need help here... I wanna build a rig...
And thebspec r ;

I7 2600k
Maximus z68
Dom 2x4gb
1tb hd
160gb 2.5 ssd
2x msi hd5870 lighting
Swiftec waterpump
Dvd
Razer mouse n keybord
2x230mm fan
5x120mm fan led
2x140mm fan led
4x ccfl

What is the best psu do i need?thanks

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post Jul 16 2011, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(buntalamus @ Jul 16 2011, 08:48 PM)
Need help here... I wanna build a rig...
And thebspec r ;

I7 2600k
Maximus z68
Dom 2x4gb
1tb hd
160gb 2.5 ssd
2x msi hd5870 lighting
Swiftec waterpump
Dvd
Razer mouse n keybord
2x230mm fan
5x120mm fan led
2x140mm fan led
4x ccfl

What is the best psu do i need?thanks
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You can consider the FSP Aurum Gold 700W for RM489 from ALL IT smile.gif. It will support two HD5870s and also the rest of your items fine.
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post Jul 16 2011, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jul 15 2011, 01:35 PM)
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The weight of a power supply used to be used by people to determine the power supply's quality, but now it's no longer accurate as technology has advanced to a point where power supplies can now provide more power with components that weigh less.

As for cable sleeving, it actually depends on the individual. While it may be an eyesore for some, lets face it; you get what you pay for. RM159 for a 500W power supply is pretty cheap. If you demand the rest of the Hexa cables to be sleeved, then be prepared to pay extra. Even without its cable sleeved, an individual's cable management for his or her system still can be very good provided that the chassis itself has the appropriate cable management holes.

Anyway, I believe the Hexa power supply is not only one that suffers from a 4+4 CPU power connector that's too short, my previous Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500W and even the Cooler Master Real Power Pro 650W power supply have a CPU power connector that's too short to be routed through the back of the motherboard tray and out from the top. These three power supplies are probably not the only power supplies that suffer from such an issue.

In my opinion, I'd say that FSP made it ( HEXA ) in such a way because they had low-budget users in mind, as in users that do not own chassis that is designed according to our decade's standard, e.g chassis that still has its power supply location located at the top instead of the bottom.
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pretty much agree on this...

Hexa/Saga for the low budget users and Aurium for high budget..

i bought my Hexa for almost 3 weeks and no funny sound and so far got no problem with.. really satisfied for rm153 after bargaining with the seller..

if its too short 4x4 then can be buy an extension? these extension wont cost a bomb rite?

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jul 16 2011, 09:54 PM)
You can consider the FSP Aurum Gold 700W for RM489 from ALL IT smile.gif. It will support two HD5870s and also the rest of your items fine.
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SO 700 watt is doing fine ar...thanks bos... still searching if any store that offer online purchasing via credit card...smile.gif ...
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Guys, may I know what's the recommended PSU for SLI setup? Specifically speaking, for GTX560 TI?

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Hmmmm, which of these few should I choose?
FSP aurum gold 700w
seasonic silence pro 760w
seasonic x750
silverstone strider essential 700w
silverstone strider 750w
I am wondering if gold efficiency is really that important.. I would prefer to get a 750w PSU for future proof but... hmm.gif
While I currently only use a single 6950, I may cfx it in the near future, so will need around 700w PSU.. But, if it's possible, when I change my system in the future, I hope that my PSU can migrate to the new system..
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jul 14 2011, 10:28 PM)
kingkingyyk owns both Hexa 500W and SAGAII 500W, and from what he concluded, both of them is the same. smile.gif Hexa is a relabeled version of SAGAII.

don't you trust FSP? tongue.gif ada banyak manufacturer guna OEM, bang. Be Quiet! etc.
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It's not that I don't trust FSP, just looking for reliable review on it. Just like you guys buying hardware, you will search for review before deciding to go for which one. Same goes to me as a seller smile.gif Branding is too subjective, let's say Cooler Master, their Silent Pro M series is good PSU like but not the GX. Same goes to other brand. Previous Corsair TX series which having high ripple also not preferred by end-user. You cannot justified the quality of the product just because of the branding now-days icon_idea.gif


QUOTE(mugenz @ Jul 16 2011, 09:59 PM)
pretty much agree on this...

Hexa/Saga for the low budget users and Aurium for high budget..

i bought my Hexa for almost 3 weeks and no funny sound and so far got no problem with.. really satisfied for rm153 after bargaining with the seller..

if its too short 4x4 then can be buy an extension? these extension wont cost a bomb rite?
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Even you plug in "cap-ayam" PSU, it won't cause problem for your system for usage around 3 weeks. By my experience, mostly is long term basis smile.gif You cannot judge the reliability only within a month of usage

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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ Jul 17 2011, 12:19 AM)
Guys, may I know what's the recommended PSU for SLI setup? Specifically speaking, for GTX560 TI?
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That depends on your entire setup, but a 600W power supply e.g the Corsair GS 600 can support 2x GTX560 Ti fine in a high-end system as its 12V rail's very beefy smile.gif.

To be on the safe side, you should get a 650W power supply or perhaps a 700W power supply.

QUOTE(Searingmage @ Jul 17 2011, 12:52 PM)

Hmmmm, which of these few should I choose?
FSP aurum gold 700w
seasonic silence pro 760w
seasonic x750
silverstone strider essential 700w
silverstone strider 750w
I am wondering if gold efficiency is really that important.. I would prefer to get a 750w PSU for future proof but... hmm.gif
While I currently only use a single 6950, I may cfx it in the near future, so will need around 700w PSU.. But, if it's possible, when I change my system in the future, I hope that my PSU can migrate to the new system..

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If you are looking for a power supply that has a good price to performance value, then your best bet would be the Seasonic Silence Pro 750W power supply. If you could afford the Seasonic X-750 then you should go for it. There's the Seasonic X-760 so you should take that over the Seasonic X-750 if you can. It has longer cables if I remember correctly.

If you intend on saving some extra money on your monthly electrical bill, then you should buy power supplies which have a high efficiency rating e.g one with a Gold efficiency certification. Power supplies that have a high efficiency also tend to run cooler as well as much more silent than one which is less efficient as there will be less heat produced because less electricity is wasted.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jul 17 2011, 01:02 PM)
That depends on your entire setup, but a 600W power supply e.g the Corsair GS 600 can support 2x GTX560 Ti fine in a high-end system as its 12V rail's very beefy smile.gif.

To be on the safe side, you should get a 650W power supply or perhaps a 700W power supply.
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Thanks. smile.gif

How about overclocking?
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jul 17 2011, 01:02 PM)
That depends on your entire setup, but a 600W power supply e.g the Corsair GS 600 can support 2x GTX560 Ti fine in a high-end system as its 12V rail's very beefy smile.gif.

To be on the safe side, you should get a 650W power supply or perhaps a 700W power supply.
If you are looking for a power supply that has a good price to performance value, then your best bet would be the Seasonic Silence Pro 750W power supply. If you could afford the Seasonic X-750 then you should go for it. There's the Seasonic X-760 so you should take that over the Seasonic X-750 if you can. It has longer cables if I remember correctly.

If you intend on saving some extra money on your monthly electrical bill, then you should buy power supplies which have a high efficiency rating e.g one with a Gold efficiency certification. Power supplies that have a high efficiency also tend to run cooler as well as much more silent than one which is less efficient as there will be less heat produced because less electricity is wasted.
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Is the electric bill difference noticable? If it's not, then besides for the sake of going green, there's not much point of getting a gold efficiency psu right?
The problem is, gold efficiency PSU are much more expensive than those normal one, which made me wonder if I should really spend the extra buck for it..
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QUOTE(Searingmage @ Jul 17 2011, 01:26 PM)
Is the electric bill difference noticable? If it's not, then besides for the sake of going green, there's not much point of getting a gold efficiency psu right?
The problem is, gold efficiency PSU are much more expensive than those normal one, which made me wonder if I should really spend the extra buck for it..
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If you want your system to run silently then getting a power supply with a high efficiency is one of the ways you can use to reduce its noise as the fan will not have to spin at speeds which can generate quite a bit of sound to remove the heat produced by the power supply.

QUOTE(Luftwacko @ Jul 17 2011, 01:09PM)
Thanks.  smile.gif

How about overclocking?
Well then, the Corsair GS 600 will still hold. Guru3D's test of two GTX560 Ti in SLI mode had the power consumption going at 449W ( whole system ), and the system has an overclocked Intel i7 965.

Since your system is using an Intel Core i3 530 ( if I remember correctly ) processor, then the power consumption will definitely be less than that. The GS 600 can supply up to 576W of power on its 12V rail and that's still more than enough for your system even when it's overclocked. However, again, to be on the safe side you should consider going for a 650W / 700W power supply smile.gif
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Like that I will have no worries powering my soon to get GTX570 paired up with my upcoming X6 Thuban smile.gif
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jul 17 2011, 01:38 PM)
Well then, the Corsair GS 600 will still hold. Guru3D's test of two GTX560 Ti in SLI mode had the power consumption going at 449W ( whole system ), and the system has an overclocked Intel i7 965.

Since your system is using an Intel Core i3 530 ( if I remember correctly ) processor, then the power consumption will definitely be less than that. The GS 600 can supply up to 576W of power on its 12V rail and that's still more than enough for your system even when it's overclocked. However, again, to be on the safe side you should consider going for a 650W / 700W power supply smile.gif
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Thanks a bunch.

I think I'll get a Corsair GS 700W based on ur recommendation. smile.gif

EDIT:
Is Silverstone Strider Essential 700W good?

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600w enuf for gtx 560 sli? would it be max out the psu. I'm using 850w on the safe side hahaha..

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