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 Choosing The Right PSU, Discussions about power supply units.

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vassalle
post Feb 26 2007, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(vey99 @ Feb 26 2007, 04:28 PM)
Seasonic 550 is around RM550, why not save 200 and get the Silverstone ST56F? On mine it says 12V is 40A... Of course if you want better quality, go for Seasonic / Fortron ...
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On mine it says 12v is 40A <- what are u referring to actually? The st56f or the seasonic?

Dont dare to use fortron coz there are rumours that my Mobo DS3 does not like fortron PSUs HERE
Doesnt say what model though.. But unless there's someone to prove otherwise, I wouldnt want to gamble on that brand for now.

As for the ST56F, i've been reading up a lot about it. The thing I like about it is the 36A and the price. But after reading a couple reviews, especially from SPCR (ironically i found this review from the product page), it was kindof a letdown tbh. Summore, there are ppl complaining about the buzzing sound in the silverstone bulk area. My PC is by no means silent, but i really cannot stand the buzzing mosquitoish sound. It drives me crazy especially because my PC is beside my bed. But i'm not writing it of just yet.
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post Feb 26 2007, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Feb 26 2007, 03:44 PM)
Hmmmm last time when my rig used the same mobo as yours n an enlight 420Watt PSU i faced the same prob as yours.. My PC sometimes reboots or hangs suddenly or wont start at all.. After i change the mobo n PSU the prob disappear.. Not really sure which is the culprit.. The mobo or the PSU..
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Err...changing both mobo and PSU is an expensive solution.. sweat.gif

I'll try the converter thingy first, if really cannot then only change PSU.....if it's not PSU...then $%^&^&* hafta buy another mobo!!!!. btw, i noticed ur CPU runs @ 2.5Ghz!!! using Stock HSF!?? i think the MSI mobo really hopeless when it comes to ocing...little bit also already cannot already. Or could it be the CPU cannot O/C??? Or maybe ur ABIT mobo very powderful? smile.gif

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post Feb 26 2007, 04:52 PM

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My PSU has 2 four-pin connectors labeled "for CPU only" and the mobo connector is 20-pin. Currently four pins are empty on the mobo. Should i connect the extra four-pin connector in? So far no reboot problems..

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post Feb 26 2007, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(Clavicus @ Feb 26 2007, 04:52 PM)
My PSU has 2 four-pin connectors labeled "for CPU only" and the mobo connector is 20-pin. Currently four pins are empty on the mobo. Should i connect the extra four-pin connector in? So far no reboot problems..
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You mean you have 24-pin on mobo but your mobo-connector is 20-pin or ?
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post Feb 26 2007, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 26 2007, 04:51 PM)
On mine it says 12v is 40A <- what are u referring to actually? The st56f or the seasonic?

Dont dare to use fortron coz there are rumours that my Mobo DS3 does not like fortron PSUs HERE
Doesnt say what model though.. But unless there's someone to prove otherwise, I wouldnt want to gamble on that brand for now.

As for the ST56F, i've been reading up a lot about it. The thing I like about it is the 36A and the price. But after reading a couple reviews, especially from SPCR (ironically i found this review from the product page), it was kindof a letdown tbh. Summore, there are ppl complaining about the buzzing sound in the silverstone bulk area. My PC is by no means silent, but i really cannot stand the buzzing mosquitoish sound. It drives me crazy especially because my PC is beside my bed. But i'm not writing it of just yet.
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My ST56F is at 40A for 12 V (the website says 36A, but actual unit I have is 40A, dunno why also)

Fortron incompatibility with PDS3 - unsurelah but Fortron Epsilon 600 price is around 435 and also approved for SLI at www.slizone.com...

ST56F noise - My unit doesnt have any buzzing sound, currently my rig is silent (zalman 9500 hsf + zalman vf900cu) and no diff after putting the ST56F. So far no one in Kingmakers bulk got problem (i got from him)

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post Feb 26 2007, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(vey99 @ Feb 26 2007, 05:27 PM)
My ST56F is at 40A for 12 V (the website says 36A, but actual unit I have is 40A, dunno why also)

Fortron incompatibility with PDS3 - unsurelah but Fortron Epsilon 600 price is around 435 and also approved for SLI at www.slizone.com...

ST56F noise - My unit doesnt have any buzzing sound, currently my rig is silent (zalman 9500 hsf + zalman vf900cu) and no diff after putting the ST56F. So far no one in Kingmakers bulk got problem (i got from him)
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There was one guy complaining about the buzzing sound in the moderno/zamree bulk. Your ST56F states 40A? Where does it say? On the sticker on the PSU is it? Really curious now hmm.gif Can take photo or not?
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 26 2007, 05:48 PM)
There was one guy complaining about the buzzing sound in the moderno/zamree bulk. Your ST56F states 40A? Where does it say? On the sticker on the PSU is it? Really curious now hmm.gif Can take photo or not?
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Yep on the PSU itself.

This a screenie of the box (too trouble to open my case)

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post Feb 26 2007, 07:45 PM

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rclxms.gif drool.gif DROOLLLL.. okayla, now i feel like driving to Subang and get one from Moderno! I think they must have made a refresh/updated for the ST56F. Weird that its not stated in their website or any where else.

Tried google Look what i've found! That was pretty fast.

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Feb 26 2007, 05:00 PM)
You mean you have 24-pin on mobo but your mobo-connector is 20-pin or ?
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Yup. 24 pins on mobo but only 20-pin mobo connector. There's a space 4-pin that's labelled for CPU. so should i connect it?
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 26 2007, 07:45 PM)
rclxms.gif  drool.gif DROOLLLL.. okayla, now i feel like driving to Subang and get one from Moderno! I think they must have made a refresh/updated for the ST56F. Weird that its not stated in their website or any where else.

Tried google Look what i've found! That was pretty fast.
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in PSU world, multi-rail - 20A + 20A isn't really 40A wink.gif, it's at least 36A

QUOTE(Clavicus @ Feb 26 2007, 07:49 PM)
Yup. 24 pins on mobo but only 20-pin mobo connector. There's a space 4-pin that's labelled for CPU. so should i connect it?
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hmm.gif what do you mean by that? 24 pin on PSU or 24 pin on mobo? i assume, PSU comes with 20+4 pin, 4 pin (CPU) wink.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 26 2007, 07:54 PM)
in PSU world, multi-rail - 20A + 20A isn't really 40A wink.gif, it's at least 36A
hmm.gif what do you mean by that? 24 pin on PSU or 24 pin on mobo? i assume, PSU comes with 20+4 pin, 4 pin (CPU) wink.gif
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Not really familiar with PSU to be honest. But it says "Combined 12V: 480W/40A". Does it still mean 36A?
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 26 2007, 07:57 PM)
Not really familiar with PSU to be honest. But it says "Combined 12V: 480W/40A". Does it still mean 36A?
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yes, indeed, it's 40A, but there's some tolerance so it's at least 36A on +12V rail, if you can look PC&PP or any other higher end PSU, they tend to use single rail with powerful ampere, around 80A+ - single rail with 80A is way much better than multi rail with 80A wink.gif
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post Feb 26 2007, 08:22 PM

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I'll just assume that PC&PP is the Tiger Woods or Roger Federer for PSU, which is really in a different league to the rest. 80A 12v is too l33t for me.

But for the middle tier PSUs, is the 40A for the ST56F comparable to the 41A for the Seasonic S12 550W? Or Silverstones 40A rating is not 'reliable'?
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QUOTE(Clavicus @ Feb 26 2007, 07:49 PM)
Yup. 24 pins on mobo but only 20-pin mobo connector. There's a space 4-pin that's labelled for CPU. so should i connect it?
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hmm.gif abit hard to determine your actual question...do you mind to post the mobo and psu you uses? icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 26 2007, 08:22 PM)
I'll just assume that PC&PP is the Tiger Woods or Roger Federer for PSU, which is really in a different league to the rest. 80A 12v is too l33t for me.

But for the middle tier PSUs, is the 40A for the ST56F comparable to the 41A for the Seasonic S12 550W? Or Silverstones 40A rating is not 'reliable'?
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actually, it's not a big deal comparing with small different IMO, anywhere 30A~40A on +12V should be ok nowadays...but be prepared higher ampere ok. Seasonic and Silverstone...actually low/mid/high all suffers on this tolerance - too bad, i forgot where the site - bookmarked but deleted doh.gif...
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post Feb 27 2007, 11:38 AM

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Anyway, moderno habes stock already for his st56f. By anychance ATE brings the PSU? C-zone charge quite expensive la @ RM 399. sad.gif

/sorry a bit off topic.
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 27 2007, 11:38 AM)
Anyway, moderno habes stock already for his st56f. By anychance ATE brings  the PSU? C-zone charge quite expensive la @ RM 399. sad.gif

/sorry a bit off topic.
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Try get from Kingmarker or Zamree.
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ATE doesnt bring Silverstone products, they got Tagan instead doh.gif...
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 27 2007, 11:38 AM)
Anyway, moderno habes stock already for his st56f. By anychance ATE brings  the PSU? C-zone charge quite expensive la @ RM 399. sad.gif

/sorry a bit off topic.
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U can get the Silverstone products fr Czone, All IT, MyPC and Prestige IT Base.
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post Feb 27 2007, 11:53 PM

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Thanks. GOt it from MyPC @ a very good price! From now on, im getting my stuffs from there.

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