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 New Honda City v06, First Batch, MUST check CVT Recall !

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post Jan 19 2016, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ Jan 19 2016, 12:55 AM)
1 mcgard lock nut with 3 ori nuts is a bad combination. After having 2 lock nuts on a wheel, leaving 2 wheels with ori nuts,  it's smooth.
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Wow, you can feel the different with just the difference of nuts?
Even the torque pressure of locking all nuts are different with the pressure gun. It doesn't matter it if it few grams different. I can't feel the defferents. The only thing a can fell is when my car is with 1 passenger or with 4 passenger in the car including driver. That I can feel the different.

Lock nuts with few grams different. Really?
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post Jan 19 2016, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ Jan 19 2016, 04:02 PM)
U having 3 ori nuts n 1 mcgard lock nut? 
Rotational force increases as speed increases.  Tyre balancing also play with  1g, 2g, 3g, 5g, 10g.

An imbalance of 28g is serious matter.
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You sounds serious. So what's going to happen?
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post Jan 20 2016, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ Jan 19 2016, 09:35 PM)
It's the same as driving with 4 unbalanced wheels... What do u think will happen? 
All I can say is, 28g diff is too much.
If 2g, then the effect is not so much.
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You haven't answer my question. By the way, what torque pressure did you use to tighten all the nuts?

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post Jan 20 2016, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ Jan 20 2016, 08:27 AM)
Sorry if i missed your question.
All nuts are tighten by hand by me. I don't trust impact gun, as many tyre shop will use too much torque to tighten those nuts. Mcgard lock nut also stated no impact gun as well.

Regarding how much torque to tighten, i can't answer as i dont use torque wrench. Anyway, it's not very important. As long as 4 nuts are tighten similarly, it should be almost equal in tightness.

Balancing is more important. Try taking of the balancing weight on your tyre and see what's gonna happen.
5g off in 1 of your front tyre is enough to send vibration to your steering wheel.
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The topic is an interesting thought for a min but when you sit back and look at it, its really an non-issue. Most performance car imported or gray import comes with the single lock nut on. I have been driving City with single lock nut without having any issue or felt any steering vibration. I think there are probably more important issues for you to consider than lock nuts.

Since you worry so much about wheel unbalance. You should invest in torque wrench. Every car has a specific torque pressure for their wheels nut and city wheel nut torque pressure is 80lbft.

All nut torque pressure must be equally torque. If either one nut is over or under tighten, that will cause imbalanced and will generate wear and tear issue on tires, wheel bearing brake pads and etc.

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post Jan 20 2016, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ Jan 20 2016, 05:15 PM)
There is specific torque for nut... But it's not necessary to follow very closely.  As long as they are tighten reasonably... There is no issue with vibration n other wear n tear issue. 
Nothing to be worried. If your 80lbft is right,  I think my nut is tighten around there.

If u didn't experience any extra vibration before n after using this setup, good for u. 

I have never experience any vibration issue with hand tighten nut on wheels.

My main point is,  introducing only 1 lock nut to each wheel,  and 3 other ori nuts is not recommended as this heavier lock nut induce imbalance rotational force. 

I'm just sharing my knowledge n experience.  Even before installing these lock nuts,  I had this concern, and the result didn't surprise me.

Blurjoey using splinedrive n it's lock nut,  which I think their weight is the same or very very close.  Therefore no vibration issue.  Probably,  can sifu blurjoey help measure the weight when doing tyre rotation then.
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Well if you have bad experience with single lock nut, that causes your wheel inbalance or whatever you are facing, that's too bad. Must be the uneven torque pressure you did for your wheel. Just get a torque wrench.

By hand you can know that u have tighten it around the recommended torque pressure. Champion.




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post Jan 20 2016, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ Jan 20 2016, 07:12 PM)
I have yet to explain this. The further the weight from the centre,  the more significant the effect. Thanks for explaining. 
So... A diff of 28g is at pcd 100mm is enough to cause my hand n butt to feel it. 
Hahaha.
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The further out from the center of the wheel that you find a difference in weight the stronger the effect will be. The difference here in weight is so slight and so close to the center of the wheel (axle) that there will not be any effect on balance.
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post Jan 20 2016, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ Jan 20 2016, 07:21 PM)
Didn't say I tighten to exact.  Just an estimate that I'm not too far off it. Torque wrench is not my concern. I'm not dealing with sensitive bolts n nuts. 

Did I explain that I put 2 lock nuts on 1 wheel... N the vibration went away?  That conclude the issue is not about how tight is those nuts or I tighten them with wrong o diff torque rate.
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Exactly. That's why I say you can hand tighten it around the recommendation torque pressure. Champion.

Maybe all these while your wheel nuts are in wrong and uneven torque pressure. That why you are facing the vibration. When you replace to 2 lock nuts and you carefully tighten the nuts with your hand that you determine close to the recommneded pressure. That's when the vibration went away and it got nothing to do with a single lock nut.

Your vibrate stop after you use 2 lock nuts. But the most important thing you didn't do is to properly torque it. You vibration may come back in future and it may
Damage you wheel bearing and other related component.

You should get a torque wrench. You sound like a pro. Any pro car shops users torque wrench for their wheels.

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post Jan 22 2016, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(lmmine @ Jan 22 2016, 02:26 PM)
Do u guys having a mild jerking when crusing at lowspeed? Somewhere 10kmh - 40kmh. Idling is very quiet and stable.

From p to d, how's the noise like? Its normal a tick sound for the gear unlock when pressing brake.

Dashboard noise can ask sc to settle, but bearing the risk of even more noise. Our sc......

Door noise can use WD40 to sette, but need identify the source first.
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Do u guys having a mild jerking when crusing at lowspeed? Somewhere 10kmh - 40kmh. Idling is very quiet and stable.
yes, but after received letter from HM and done the CVT computer upgrade, fixed the problem.


From p to d, how's the noise like? Its normal a tick sound for the gear unlock when pressing brake.
its normal. it is just a lock unlock mechanism.

Dashboard noise can ask sc to settle, but bearing the risk of even more noise. Our sc......
which part? diver side, passenger side?


Door noise can use WD40 to sette, but need identify the source first.
all new city facing this problem

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post Jan 22 2016, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(lmmine @ Jan 22 2016, 02:57 PM)
My city is 2015 version, not the 2014 batch version that recall by Hm. So don't need to upgrade CVT programming
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too bad that your 2015 city facing that problem then..
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post Feb 23 2016, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(LaVilla. @ Feb 23 2016, 12:36 AM)
Yea, i am suffering from this issue currently sad.gif
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I assumed all new city owners are facing this issue.. CKD issue.
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post Feb 23 2016, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(LaVilla. @ Feb 23 2016, 12:37 AM)
Guys, is all the Honda Service Centres in whole Malaysia liaise with each others? I mean if I service in SC A, will SC B know my record?

I mean do they have a centralized database and system for all their SC? unsure.gif
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yes, since last year all honda service records are centralized to honda malaysia. no matter where you service before, is all in their system no matter where you go.
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post Feb 23 2016, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(LaVilla. @ Feb 23 2016, 12:38 AM)
and any opinion about this?
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is not the matter of durable or not.
dohc ( double over head cam)
sohc ( single over head cam)

is matter of hp power and torque.
dohc has more torque. But is all depends on how the engine and gear box was tuned for 1.5 cc engine is not much different. The current city pick up ( torque) is impressive. All thanks to the new earth dream cvt and newly tuned engine.

ps: sohc is more fuel saving....

next, the vios guys will say, vios got rear disc brake and city got rear drum brake. lol

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post Feb 23 2016, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(LaVilla. @ Feb 23 2016, 03:46 PM)
So you got install the mudguard?
Oh i see. No wonder. Thank you for telling me.
oh i see. When he mentioned about reliability, that worries me. sweat.gif Thank you smile.gif
Weird, why got centralized system but no centralized pricing hmm...

Thank you so much ^^
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Mud guard yes. bought if from honda thailand by hingan auto

the centralized system is for honda malaysia to keep track on your car records for warranty claim purposed. so they will know whether your car is qualify or void warranty if there is a warranty claim been carry out.

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post Apr 19 2016, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(LaVilla. @ Apr 19 2016, 06:08 PM)
Hey, the other night, my friend asked me to stop my car and told me wanna check my car engine. So i opened up the engine hoot.. and surprisingly he went and reach a black plastic box located at the edge of the right side of the engine compartment. I think they called it "fuse" .

HE opened out then told me that my car do not have extra fuse or something. Later i only realize, it plan to take my extra fuse for his another friend..because his another friend's car having electrical problem or something.

So, i would like to verify with you guys, did he curi-curi take off my extra fuse or what? Can verify whether what in the photo is same with you guy's cars? Thank you sad.gif
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no spare fuses provided by honda city malaysia. cut cost to the max
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post Apr 19 2016, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(LaVilla. @ Apr 19 2016, 06:18 PM)
And also, i drove to genting the other day. While coming down..from genting. I overheated my brake and it lost its effectiveness. So have to stop down to let it cool down.

After that i went and check the brake.. the inner part seem to be like rusted. is this normal? Is my car..brake thingy ok? sad.gif
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that rust is normal. all disc brake rust.
if you felt your car brakes like spongy feel. Time to do brake bleeding. anyway whats ur car mileage?
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post Apr 21 2016, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(jusTinMM @ Apr 21 2016, 10:57 AM)
any idea when this model available here? the most important is got VSC?
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vios very good got rear disc brake lah......city only rear drum brake lol

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post Apr 21 2016, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(LaVilla. @ Apr 21 2016, 04:16 PM)
Oh ya, does the previous City model came with extra fuses? hmm.gif
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yes...2007 city comes with it...not sure about previous gen
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post Apr 26 2016, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(hockwei123456 @ Apr 26 2016, 12:10 PM)
I changed to borch ec6 horn but something when I press and hold the horn it'll sound like  BORRNNNNNNnnnnnnnNnnnnnNnnnNNNNN like sometimes to power... and the s horns are are the driver side fog lamps there..  Abit weird don't you think so?
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bosh ec6 is a good reliable durable cheap twin tone horn.
install the horn left and right side, dont install both horns next to each other, and install it with a relay harness...

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post Apr 26 2016, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(hockwei123456 @ Apr 26 2016, 01:16 PM)
I already installed it but both at 1 side... Where did you did yours?
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You can find this horn in any spare part shop. I DIY horn installation
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post Apr 26 2016, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Sh@rty 5 @ Apr 26 2016, 02:51 PM)
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u remove whole bumper for the installation job?
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yes...

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