hahahaha.....want to do TT between us 2 onli huh ....hehehe...that will be like comparing drain water (which is my setup) and champagne (which is ur setup) ....cant bear the humilation man....

ahboy, I have been browsing those sites since I started to get involve in ICE some few months back, anyway....thank u...

damn, still havent ler ....been thinking of going for american based set rather than european based one since most of the type of music that I listen is US based genre...

wat u think, is it wrong to think this way ? been thinking like LA (new LA of course), RF (perhaps fanatic series) and others....still need to go to asacar and see how ler...

roughly, how does we differenciate dynamic music and warm music.....

hehehehe....I was expecting a good answer but I got a pre-christmas joke

so is it right to say dynamic music is like mainstream music (hip hop, R&B, pop, rock, techno/trance/disco etc etc) while warm is like jazz, classical, orchestrial type of music....

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 23 2006, 11:43 AM

so guys, after browsing high and low for 1-3 weeks, I think I have roughly made my mind on wat I would like to take...

below is my options but Im not sure which one to take just yet:

alpine type R : RM980
alpine type S : RM680
MBQuart DSF216 : RM980
helix blue 62 : RM680

looking to pair either one of the above component sets to a 4 channel amplifier, perhaps an alpine one since I can get one at less than RM1K...

as for alpine type R and S, Im not sure wat exactly is the model no as there is some 171, 176a, 177 hehehehe...confusing.....

music preferance would be like mentioned before, just would like to add that I prefer my music setup loud and clean with no breaking up at high pitch/frequency...

please advice if there is any better sets than those above ones at about the same price or shud I just take either one of those above ones ...will probably be installing one set dis week or next.....still dok tahan the temptation of new speakers coming soon....

edit: personally prefer alpine sets R or S but need inputs from others...

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 26 2006, 01:08 PM

thanks for ur comments, still undecided for now....

haiya brother, last time u recommend alpine rite ....wat u think of it now ler...I think seriously before buying will need to test out those speakers in the car ler....da other day, tested out in open space.....

dat day, tested few comps set, like RF punch, LA strike and alpine type R, found dat RF punch bass is higher followed by LA strike and lastly alpine type R, but both punch and strike costs more than RM1.3K and RM1.5K respectively , totally out of my budget...

thanks .....this might be the answer I was looking for....rougly u answered like I mentioned before....

thanks for ur comments.....

hehehe, thanks to u also bro .....but dat day was offered type R onli at my budget, dang need to look around again then....

do u meant that if wanna take R better go for cheaper S since u said just average, u think got huge difference is it ?

Im more into dynamic music then warm, I realised this now....



I think so the same also, but sifu driftmeister said its about RM1K....



do u mean I have to look for asacar's boss/manager.....

the price range I mentioned in few posts back on 4 component sets are based on asacar's pricing brother....thats wat they offered to me...



LA strike I saw at asacar is new one and new model with new LA logo at RM1.5K....u think better take new one or old one if I choose LA instead ?

some ppl would say old is gold but some says old is mold hahahaha.....



yeah, end of the day, it all boils down to whether it fits ur budget and ears...cheers...

yeah, the pricing mentioned before this is taken by asacar staffs.....just went there like last week....

boss how to meet him huh? cos go to the shop immediately kena attack by their staffs.....hahahaha

waiting for u to recommend ler ....then I can get discount also ler...kekeke...

so talk about alpine type R or S, the new version one got different housing is it like below ?





the ones which I tested and being offered are those with normal honey comb housing but got alpine wording on top, not like these pics ....besides that the crossover housing is not same like in those pics above and their tweeter is not like those standing in da pics above but normal ones flat bed type...

am I being offered old stuff or wat ....thanks for replying...

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 26 2006, 11:48 PM

I heard that only type R speakers are made by vifa.....

no subwoofer yet bro ....not even an amp also, still using standard setup ...concentrate front setup first then look back, ICE principle is dat benefit urself first then think of others in da back...hahaha...

just got a reasonable HU ler ....cannot say great cos its among entry level HU....works fine to me in my usage...

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 27 2006, 02:55 AM

I answered ur question HERE....



price shud be around RM480-500 now, I bought it higher some more ...model no is inside this thread as well, please do a little bit reading and searching first before .....I dont mind helping but u must help urself first also ler...

no problem bro, we learn together with our sifus here...

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 27 2006, 05:13 PM

ooooiii, wats happening to my thread huh became some sort of joke...hahahaha...

anyway, Im back with few questions again...hope to get some answers from sifus here...

1. is it true those speakers sets have almost very limited warranty ? I was quoted alpine gives 3 mths warranty and sony gives no warranty watsover for their speaker sets ? how about other brands ? normally this is not the same for HUs and amps however which gets 1 year warranty, according to a salesperson....

2. so I guess I have finally decided wat to take...the alpine type R SPS-176A for about less than RM1K ...wat u guys think of this ? any comments...if everything goes well today, will go and install it in the evening today..... pics are as below....mind to say its not the latest type R model with different grill set and different looking crossover....

3. between this type R and type S, how much difference is it in between these two? I mean any huge differential features or functionality? price difference between the 2 is about RM300....









hopefully to read some comments before going to install it....thanks to all...

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 29 2006, 06:21 AM

guys, as I said before HU and amp no problem normally got full warranty .....its the speakers that is Im worry about because thats wat Im getting in the meantime....

anyway, I will contact the distributor based on contacts given by driftmeister to confirm....thanks again..

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 29 2006, 12:55 PM

loon, I only manage to compare this to LA bolt (RM400) and RF punch (RM1300) component sets, type R doesnt have punchy bass compared to above LA and RF, vocal and dynamic is acceptable IMHO, need to listen it the car then only know....

I got a question, if between type R and S, of course R is better but then wat might be the biggest difference between these 2 ? I didnt get to test R and S side by side....

compared them at ur recommended shop asacar maa....

I listened using their CDs, they have few CDs that is kinda the type of music I listened...yeah, in between each songs, swapped the speakers to see the difference lor...

hahaha .....u so high end leadi now even RM1K speakers also u say chaplang...kekeke....

if like this which one matches the same price stuff but have the sound characteristics like u wanted ?

to me when I compared between those limited 3 sets and brand, type R stands out more ....and at the same time since I didnt compared with other models or brands, I cant say anything also, thats why I ask u within same range of price if there is anything better than this...hehehe...

but I cant say anything about u tho....wat is nice in my ears might not be nice to ur ears and the other way around ...so no need to keep on comparing as this would become nvr ending story ...

anyway, I got a question regarding warranty on speakers only (like I ask before), is it true warranty for speakers are very limited, like alpine 3 mths only and sony no warranty at all, other brands Im not sure...

do u know anything about this, I havent call distributors and ask about it tho..

yeah, u are rite there ....buying ICE must be based on personal liking and self budget, this shud be primary ....secondary would be on other ppls recommendation based on budget and music type....

so u have any infor on warranty as I asked before this ?

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 29 2006, 11:33 PM

OK, thanks for ur reply...will head down there tomorow and check it out...