Capital A Berhad /AirAsia (5099), Asia's largest LCC group
Capital A Berhad /AirAsia (5099), Asia's largest LCC group
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Nov 1 2015, 08:57 AM
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Anyone bought aax-wa? Unker wil-i-am sure have haha
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Nov 1 2015, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 1 2015, 08:59 AM) Super like! Hahaha this time u bought lower then me again??Dunnnnn haha Ps: I am really keen to see what accounting magic or financial re-engineering takes place for AAX in the next few results to come. Too much negativity (losses), so Unker Tony and gang will definitely be doing something about it. This post has been edited by TC-Titan: Nov 1 2015, 09:11 AM |
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Nov 1 2015, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Nov 1 2015, 09:57 AM) 1 months and 23 days anything can happens. Goreng master detected that makes calls to buy and sell like Gordon Gecko! For that amount of money you put in, with my way, I think by the time to Christmas, I already make 3-5 times more than you keep and wait So your Bluestar Airlines is AAX? |
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May 27 2016, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 26 2016, 11:54 PM) AirAsia Bhd posted an almost six-fold increase in its earnings for the first quarter ended March 31, 2016 to RM877.8mil, mainly due to higher revenue and lower fuel price. I heard a number of "value investor" gurus targeting RM3. http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...lmost-six-fold/ Interesting thing is when I browsed thru their qtrly report, the forex gain is 400+mill which is half of the 800+ profit now. If u look around, there's a lot of hedging and derivatives being used. Some of this figures are seriously damn huge, that I'm not sure whether the comp already has a new business segment specialising and focusing in all this instruments instead of their core biz. I guess it's a lot of pressure for TF to make AA and AAX appear in the black a.s.a.p eh. |
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May 27 2016, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 27 2016, 06:46 PM) LOL! Welcome back and Thanks Sifu for making an appearance to give your insight on AA and Tony! You seem to bery active here. Why? Here nobody la.... Forex gain? If you look at the segmental, it's actually 547 million plus. But these type of gains..... it's half wet half dry.... cos with the bulk of its billions and billions of loans still in USD... AirAsia carries a massive chunk of unrealised loss in forex, Like I said before... Tony is STILL pissed poor in hedging. When USD starts flying... and the oil starts falling.... he fast hand fast leg... scare lose.... and he went on a hedging orgy.... started hedging oil at 80++ (ahem... scroll down to the end of the report, look at the fair value of the fuel contract) and also... as per report... AirAsia is still carrying more millions of barrels of fuel contracts..... looks like AirAsia bought more.... his crazed action.... was saved by the USD... cos his hedging of the USD started around 3.20+. and yeah... you are right to ask... and you probably wonder if he thinks he is hell of a super derivative trader. (he once almost lost the pants of airasia in hedging that he had to loudly claim that there will be no more bets (yeah.. that was the exact word used. 'bets') for Airasia.... having said that he made one hell of a move recently.... and that seriously changed the fortunes around for AirAsia. Hibernate for too long d. Lai come back discuss on stocks. Well, let's see how Tony continues to perform with his mastermind tactics. And yeah... he hedged for the next 3 qtrs already This post has been edited by TC-Titan: May 27 2016, 07:26 PM |
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May 28 2016, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 27 2016, 07:51 PM) Sifu, I don't really follow AA or AAX as an investment. Not too keen on their industry too.Not sure, whether the great move you were referring to was on the private placement (559 million new AA shares to Tune Live at RM1.84 per share). To me, that was a psychological/tactical move to cement the share price above the RM2 mark added along with other tactical moves and sweeteners if you like. The other key moves to me are as follows: 1. 4th Qtr 15 - hedged approx 58% of the US dollar liabilities (Note: forex range from start (Oct) to end (Dec) was around 4.40 to 4.29. Lowest was 4.12) - Fuel hedged for about 5+ months for 1st and 2nd qtr FY16 (Note: crude oil went from 47 to 37). AA became more creative in this department by entering into Singapore Jet Kerosene fixed swaps (SJKFS), Brent options and Crack swaps arrangements as opposed to just SJKFS as noted in 1st qtr FY15. VERSUS 2. 1st Qtr 16 - hedged approx 61% of the US dollar liabilities (Note: forex range went from 4.29 to 3.90) - Fuel hedged for the next 3 qtrs in FY16. (Note: crude oil went from 37 to 39. Lowest was around 28). The arrangement apart from those mentioned above was to add in Brent swaps. Apart from the improved market sentiment (passengers increase @ load factor) on using AA plus other marketing schemes plus doing other interesting things in Thailand etc, I think the above plays a big role on the results and the next remaining few quarters to come. Pass or Fail? This post has been edited by TC-Titan: May 28 2016, 11:51 AM |
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May 28 2016, 02:03 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Sifu, I hampir crap my pants after seeing your nice long post. Reminds me back of the days when people use to write pen-pal letters manually. On more info on the sale and leaseback arrangement can refer to 2015 AR - Note 29 b). AA's capital commitment hasn't reduced yet but still expanding... If I'm not mistaken they were suppose to receive 15 A320s and four A320neos in 2016. Not sure how many deferments are there apart from the 7 mentioned by you earlier. The only way for Uncle Tony to get a really GOOD night's sleep is to cancel some of the plane orders lo. 300+ plane of orders too excessive. No need to be a hero of the planet lo. My wild guess is he will continue with the sales & leaseback arrangements with all his associates, create more spiderweb Related party transactions, then ultimately list all of them in their respective countries. Win kao kao to the max $$$$$$ after plenty of sleepless nights haha Not surprised if he has other comps that he wants to bring for listing too (si beh not focused ar this Tony. Hand, leg and balls everywhere). But hor, I think now he has done well la on the hedging part this round (considered lucky or bold?), I think he will going to continue to play the game until full delivery of all the planes. |
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May 30 2016, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 29 2016, 09:48 AM) You need to look at the bigger picture. Agreed. Once he starts hedging... difficult to stop to see whether the hedging is really essential for the business or not.The fact is Tony is pretty much a very arrogant person and his hedging activities over the years shows his reckless gambling behavior. Instead of focusing on current hedging form/result... Go dig deeper. Look at the historical results from AirAsia. Go make a yearly comparison table... No need any bloody fancy formula... find out the past 10 years profit/losses in fuel and forex hedgng. Go have a look. For starters.... this wasn't too long ago. http://themalaysianreserve.com/new/story/a...rex-losses-year On the leasing part and doing IPO again, check out the latest news. AirAsia gets US$1 bil offer to acquire leasing company |
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May 31 2016, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 29 2016, 09:48 AM) Look at the historical results from AirAsia. Just for fun. Go make a yearly comparison table... No need any bloody fancy formula... find out the past 10 years profit/losses in fuel and forex hedgng. http://themalaysianreserve.com/new/story/a...rex-losses-year ![]() |
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Jul 13 2016, 11:56 PM
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Unker Tony is super aggressive eh.
Either way, I think it's good that he is bold and has big bola to do anything and everything. If he is so pussy, how is everyone gonna make money haha Chill and enjoy the game as it folds. |
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Jul 14 2016, 06:54 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 14 2016, 05:34 AM) Lol ! We have discussed before about him. Typical. Instead of simply saying chill... Go do some research la ... Like i said the same events happened before. It went overly aggresive.... Bought many fei kei... Stock tanked big time when its debts went crazy.... He was forced to eat humble pie.... Started to postpone delivery of fei kei... No choice.... Debts too high... No money... Balance sheet imptoved immediately.... Stock soared.... He got cocky.... Lol....typical.... Ordered crazy amount of new fei kei..... Stock tanked again.... Aax born.. No help... Lol.... It soon became a penny stock.... Then it was forced to.... Sell and leaseback... Private placement to raise funds... Lol...owners ownself bought.... Lol.. owners ownself fry stock or maybe ..what if they could not find any other party to buy?....doesn't matter.... Then...it postoone delivery.... Now is one a trader or is one the stupid keyboard warrior? Lol...... Stock flew of course.... Hmmmm..... Why do people study history? Lol... Recent events.... Harloo.... Started to poke poke MAHB.... Buy corporate jets... Talking big.... Started ordering many new fei kei.... Lol.... Washing machine? Doesn't matter......... Yeah I am a keyboard warrior.... My these comments are simply poison ..... Hahahahaha Key thing for me is he is very entrepreneurial and seems like a smart arse (or maybe that's his tonne of advisors). So whatever he does... I dun think it really matters at all. I just see more opportunities to trade or invest from whatever actions (whether it's dumb, smart, strategic or innovative) he makes in AA, AAX, tunepro, new listings etc. For all u know, he could be a Master trader himself either directly or indirectly as well and plays a major role on the trend of his counters. So if history were to supposedly repeat and AA drops to 1 Buck with other stories coming in later to defer the orders of the new planes or to do new listings etc, then not good for u? So just chill and let him play his game lo. |
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Jul 14 2016, 10:14 AM
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Aiyoyo. Awal pagi already Abang Boon3 sudah banyak energetic and excited oh.
Type long long and main with Beeeeeeeeeee-liiiiions. Make Beeeeeeeeeee-liiiiions sound like tissue paper money d Let Unker Tony manage his biz and play with his Beeeeeeeeeee-liiiiions lo. Whether possible to fund ke, sustainable or not, to be bailed out eventually or whatever, let him do whatever he wants lo. Who knows we might have our kampung made "too big to fail" scenario and have a movie made about it Either way, I'm sure all the big boys are watching and taking notes. PS: I was thinking last night, whether all this planes (about 400?) will still be used say after 2 to 3 decades. Why so hasty to over-commit and dominate everywhere. If there is a new tech or or even something close to a spaceship that comes out later, he could be screwed bad. But yeah, I'm sure he knows his biz well enuf to know what he is doing. |
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Jul 14 2016, 10:57 AM
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hahaha chillax lo Abang Boon3
U have made a huge killing already (or is it considered immaterial to you?) since u have made a correct assessment on their prior news and bet in the change in trend. No one is saying AA is correct and a sure win stock forever. It's subjective. But, I'm sure there will be more trends to come from Unker Tony's stocks. And I'm also sure u will be actively looking out for any good opportunities to trade after all your poison prerequisites are met. |
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Jul 14 2016, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 14 2016, 11:59 AM) Oolala....new engine orders somemore... Syukur~~~ http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/a...ircraft-engines So power Tony. Lol Ah Boon sure wrong.... See.... http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/a...rs-good-airasia Just a couple more Beeeeeeeeeee-liiiiions in the capcom. No worries mate~ They won a number of |
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Jul 15 2016, 11:06 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Wah Abang Boon ini still very turn on by AA. Kipidap and Curry On~! PS: why don't u write a formal letter to Unker Tony and AA's BOD stating your concerns? If u're more bold, cc that letter to the press and that would mean they need to officially reply u |
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Jul 15 2016, 12:00 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « A msg to yourself with a lot of notes for other people eh Nothing wrong with your risk assessment and nothing wrong with your postings. Ps: who dare to comment u're wrong la? Erm... who said u can't write in to the BOD without being an investor in their company? Alternatively just buy 1 lot lo. I think the points u have raised are interesting and any layman can relate to them. So I'm keen to see what is Tony or mgmt's response to your points. Shouldn't be that difficult to write a letter for a self-declared key-board warrior |
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