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TSstorm721984
post Nov 29 2006, 11:36 AM, updated 20y ago

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Ever since i saw the review of
MSI XA52P CD-RW+DVD-ROM Serial ATA Combo Drive i was hoping it will be available in Malaysia market but somehow it doesn't seem to be available... sad.gif
It would be very nice to have SATA ROM as i assume a lot of modder would want to have a very nice cable management and hate the hassle of PATA cable connected to our MOBO doh.gif

Here are some screen shot from what i saw in the review of this SATA ROM

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post Nov 29 2006, 11:46 AM

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the power socket still old style .... doh.gif laugh.gif
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post Nov 29 2006, 11:47 AM

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wa... using sata cable now? hmm.. nice..
only MSI has tis type of product now? really hassle free
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post Nov 29 2006, 12:01 PM

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aiyak MSi arh.
why not plextor?
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post Nov 29 2006, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Nov 29 2006, 12:01 PM)
aiyak MSi arh.
why not plextor?
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Somehow i only see MSI produce this type of ROM
i still can't find any other brand and sadly its only a combo drive... I would prefer if they manage to manufacture DVD burner using SATA cable
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post Nov 29 2006, 12:28 PM

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i think its not pratical to do so a even today burning speed has yet to reach to its max capability. i've tried ide to sata convertor on a dvd rom. sadly it wont detect
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Nov 29 2006, 12:15 PM)
Somehow i only see MSI produce this type of ROM
i still can't find any other brand and sadly its only a combo drive... I would prefer if they manage to manufacture DVD burner using SATA cable
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aiks dude, i remember last time plextor introduced one.
havent seen it in Malaysia, but i know its very expensive to get in the USA.
here are some pictures smile.gif

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taken from : http://www.plextor.com/english/products/716SA.htm
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post Nov 29 2006, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Nov 29 2006, 12:45 PM)
aiks dude, i remember last time plextor introduced one.
havent seen it in Malaysia, but i know its very expensive to get in the USA.
here are some pictures smile.gif

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taken from : http://www.plextor.com/english/products/716SA.htm
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I already using SATA for my DVD Rom.. HEHEHEHE..
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Nov 29 2006, 12:45 PM)
aiks dude, i remember last time plextor introduced one.
havent seen it in Malaysia, but i know its very expensive to get in the USA.
here are some pictures smile.gif

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taken from : http://www.plextor.com/english/products/716SA.htm
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ohhh cool~ Guess MSI is not the only one in the market thumbup.gif

QUOTE(moskau12 @ Nov 29 2006, 01:37 PM)
I already using SATA for my DVD Rom.. HEHEHEHE..
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What brand? Where and which shop you got it?
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post Nov 29 2006, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Nov 29 2006, 12:15 PM)
Somehow i only see MSI produce this type of ROM
i still can't find any other brand and sadly its only a combo drive... I would prefer if they manage to manufacture DVD burner using SATA cable
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well, i found two dvd-burner model with sata interface, both from Samsung, one of the model has lightscribe tech:

Samsung SH-S183L Link

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Samsung SH-S183A Link

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post Nov 29 2006, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 29 2006, 12:28 PM)
i think its not pratical to do so a even today burning speed has yet to reach to its max capability. i've tried ide to sata convertor on a dvd rom. sadly it wont detect
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wah laugh.gif u also using a ide-sata converter too, what brand? sweat.gif
i'm using gigabyte converter thumbup.gif

about the max capability, ur right but there is a pci card made by gigabyte to burst the transfer rate for ide & sata, called Gigabyte i-RAM Link

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this card allows the ide & sata device to have it's own memory & doesn't allocates certain memory like mobo, here are some shots:

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Here the result:

For HDD
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For ODD
Didn't found one but sure fast than the old one sweat.gif

Here's the review link

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post Nov 29 2006, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Nov 29 2006, 03:15 PM)
well, i found two dvd-burner model with sata interface, both from Samsung, one of the model has lightscribe tech:

Samsung SH-S183L
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That is cool~ but i'm wondering where can i get this burner. Did visit around LYP but no luck in find one....

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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Nov 29 2006, 03:34 PM)
That is cool~ but i'm wondering where can i get this burner. Did visit around LYP but no luck in find one....
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dunno where can get it, all i know that the two model are for u.s only, ask someone to do a bulk on it then tongue.gif or u can buy the ide-sata converter thumbup.gif
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post Nov 29 2006, 04:59 PM

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alrite guys, this is the best question of the thread.
what is this topic doing in this section?
should be in the hadware section smile.gif
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post Nov 29 2006, 06:08 PM

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the MSI drive was introduced long time ago. it was reviewed in HWM too. but they say got problem with the i865 chipset. but i'm not sure whether MSI has firmware that fixes this issue.

does that mean IDE-PATA will still live for a long time?
even the latest nforce 680 mobo has IDE port. maybe when windows vista is out for 5 years already, that big fat PATA cable is still there for the optical drive.

slim cable is always a good thing. i hope mobo makers can discuss with optical drive company to ditch the PATA standard.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 29 2006, 06:08 PM)
the MSI drive was introduced long time ago. it was reviewed in HWM too. but they say got problem with the i865 chipset. but i'm not sure whether MSI has firmware that fixes this issue.

does that mean IDE-PATA will still live for a long time?
even the latest nforce 680 mobo has IDE port. maybe when windows vista is out for 5 years already, that big fat PATA cable is still there for the optical drive.

slim cable is always a good thing. i hope mobo makers can discuss with optical drive company to ditch the PATA standard.
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hope so, but if all ODD interface change to SATA then we got another problem, SATA port are placed bottom of the mobo while we most likely to place the ODD on the most top bay! giving problem especially for those who using full tower casing laugh.gif rclxms.gif cry.gif
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dude, sata technology for dvd burning has been around for along time already, almost the same time sata hdds came out... just that it wasn't popular because of its extremely high price at first(expect a price of 4 digits), now even thoghthe price has been reduced but it is still high, for example the some plextor models cost around 200USD, bout 700 rm, u can get 3 dvd burners for that price. other companies have also made attempt at it but never successful, like the Samsung WriteMaster SH-W163(review here.-http://www.pcpro.co.uk/custompc/labs/91047/samsung-writemaster-shw163.html) at 30 pounds-roughly 210 rm...without shipping, and the Plextor PX-755SA (review here.-http://www.pcpro.co.uk/custompc/labs/91040/plextor-px755sa.html) at 70 pounds-roughly 500rm.....

even lite on has one, check the ppcs dvddrive section for more sata dvd burners...

but because of its high price currently it cant be bought by the mainstream which is the major market..only modders and high end users can buy it, also now most people already have a dvd burner and tho them it is more than enough to their needs, so they do not c the point in upgrading. same story with the malaysian importers and distros, they don't c the market is big enough but im sure if u contacted them they will willing put an order out for you, but remember the downside is the MOQ...

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Nov 29 2006, 03:22 PM)
wah laugh.gif u also using a ide-sata converter too, what brand? sweat.gif
i'm using gigabyte converter thumbup.gif

about the max capability, ur right but there is a pci card made by gigabyte to burst the transfer rate for ide & sata, called Gigabyte i-RAM Link



this card allows the ide & sata device to have it's own memory & doesn't  allocates certain memory like mobo, here are some shots:



Here the result:

For HDD


For ODD
Didn't found one but sure fast than the old one sweat.gif

Here's the review link
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif The Gigabyte i-RAM has got nothing to do with making ure SATA n IDE devices run faster lar. Aiyoooooooooooo.

It's function is like a solid state HDD. Coz it's using RAM it's super fast. Even faster than a Raptor HDD.
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Nov 29 2006, 06:46 PM)
dude, sata technology for dvd burning has been around for along time already, almost the same time sata hdds came out... just that it wasn't popular because of its extremely high price at first(expect a price of 4 digits), now even thoghthe price has been reduced but it is still high, for example the some plextor models cost around 200USD, bout 700 rm, u can get 3 dvd burners for that price. other companies have also made attempt at it but never successful, like the  Samsung WriteMaster SH-W163(review here.-http://www.pcpro.co.uk/custompc/labs/91047/samsung-writemaster-shw163.html) at 30 pounds-roughly 210 rm...without shipping, and the Plextor PX-755SA (review here.-http://www.pcpro.co.uk/custompc/labs/91040/plextor-px755sa.html) at 70 pounds-roughly 500rm.....

even lite on has one, check the ppcs dvddrive section for more sata dvd burners...

but because of its high price currently it cant be bought by the mainstream which is the major market..only modders and high end users can buy it, also now most people already have a dvd burner and tho them it is more than enough to their needs, so they do not c the point in upgrading. same story with the malaysian importers and distros, they don't c the market is big enough but im sure if u contacted them they will willing put an order out for you, but remember the downside is the MOQ...
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sata can be so cheap on hdd. why not odd?

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