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 Can I afford a BMW f30 with my current income?

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post Oct 23 2022, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(_kt_ @ Oct 23 2022, 01:14 AM)
That's quite surprising to hear, always see people complimenting Bimmer's drive and handling, especially the F30's for more recent times.
1. I always thought F30 was a driver's car? Alot of people complimenting it, even when compared to the newer G20. This should probably be another thread, but what would be a nice 2nd-hand driver's car for someone like me to upgrade to?

2. Just thought that my savings could be buffer enough for some maintenance costs neglected by previous owner, or maybe more downpayment so that can have less loan amount. 😅
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F30 is first and foremost a family sedan with a pretty good chassis and powerful turbocharged power train.
Things that you generally harder/more expensive to modify already taken care of.

And that comes to modifications - with good suspensions and some miscellaneous plug and play resto mods (considering it being a used car), it can be a very good Sporty family sedan. And in good driver's hands, command a very respectable SIC lap times or even our regular Touge routes or highway sprints.

But, is it feasible for you to spend more cash into modifications and restorations? Even assuming the used unit you're getting isn't a lemon?

1) depends how much of a driver's car you want in compromising your family requirements.
You can look up actual sports cars/sports coupe
86 BRZ first gen is the definition of a driver's car and very attainable (even in Malaysia) sports coupe.

2) for F30 no
And for 86 BRZ even more no if you gotten a badly modified and trashed used unit/lemon unit.
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post Oct 25 2022, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(_kt_ @ Oct 23 2022, 07:07 PM)
Yeah, seems like better keep my head down and work harder before thinking about it. Thanks for all the feedback, guys! 🙏🏻🙏🙏
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oh ya, in case still have doubts, cyxnide already done your homework for you, go thank him.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5296063
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post Oct 25 2022, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(hungrygodzilla @ Oct 25 2022, 03:50 PM)
It's kinda funny, back then i always wanted a Merc, but when i can afford one, i chose another car. Merc too milo tin and flashy for my age. Damn... my childhood dream gone, replaced by reality. Need to earn even more to buy car based on dream instead of reality.

oh well, work work.
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I used to say I'll never buy any Toyota (no thanks to them making boring Prius for over a decade and our God car/UMWT etc)

That i own a Toyota for more than 5 years.

Such is reality sad.gif

QUOTE(TheodoreRBR @ Oct 25 2022, 04:00 PM)
Compared to F30, E46 is a really hardcore choice that cannot be justified if the reason to get it was the badge alone. It no longer meets the minimum criteria to be considered a luxury car in today's standards. The MyVi owners would be teasing their keyless entry and ignition. No wonder that thread starter found the bitter truth when he drove his relative's X50.

However, all of you are right about the economic situation currently. If he is not confident with his own career growth, it's best to re-consider. Unfortunately, if he really wants a spirited drive, there isn't any brand new models below RM100k that can match the performance figure except X50.
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Yeah not exactly a good comparison aside both cars having the same badge.

But it's a good reminder on how we may overestimate our financial capabilities or just generally being young and stupid.

While it's easy to say you can learn easily through other people experience/age of internet etc. Often, for most people the best lesson is still to self experience (pain).

Lee82gx well apparently X50 is a bad drive.
I have no personal experience with X50 yet however to me, I'm inclined to agree as it is a SUV after all.
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post Oct 25 2022, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 25 2022, 05:03 PM)
Toyota is the best Japanese car maker ma! Has the best reliability
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post Oct 25 2022, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Oct 25 2022, 05:54 PM)
One man’s poison is another man’s meat. Or something like that haha.

One does not buy a “sporty suv” unless it’s a PuroSangue or a Urus lol.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 25 2022, 06:10 PM)
Like new Supra, yours is not a real Toyota but some bastardized version. Lol  Real Toyota like mine has unbeatable reliability.
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Seriously la, gone are the days of Toyota bullet proof reliability.
Unless of course they continue regurgitating old drive trains. Hey maybe UMWT is profiteering for YOUR own good! Reliability is priority right?

The new GR Yaris also have their issues but everyone is accepting it being the sports car it is and generally people are grateful Toyota churning out sports cars.

And of course there's Lexus, still getting generally new stuff and still have Toyota legendary reliability (mainly from over engineered drive train) , however there's a catch - Lexus luxury brand premium. It's like that general 3 items and you can only pick 2 - price/performance/reliability

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post Oct 26 2022, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Oct 26 2022, 12:58 AM)
How much repair costs to expect per year on average? Just repairs alone..
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What car?

QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Oct 26 2022, 01:02 AM)
His repair costs only around rm10k per year. Doesnt sound horrifying actually. I already spent rm6.5k repairing my mazda for the past year alone.
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Depends condition of used car and how the new/current owner uses/maintains the car also.

And for that guy, how detailed he recorded his repairs may be a variable as well.

Just be aware of how the cars were priced originally disregarding it's used car price/resale value
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post Oct 26 2022, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Oct 26 2022, 01:51 AM)
That makes a lot of sense, thanks. Asking for f30 and 86.
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I don't own F30 so can't comment

86 is a tricky thing when it comes to only repair
If nothing goes wrong, you don't spend a single cent.
But if you happen to get a blown engine/transmission, be prepared between 10-40k repair bills/half cut/rebuilding etc

It'll be hard to summarize in a single off topic post
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post Oct 26 2022, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Oct 26 2022, 01:59 PM)
Ok that’s quite a lot. It’s tricky because of boxer engine?
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that's just one reason.

Please don't forget:
1) it's a sports car - comes with sports car premium, or if you want more technicality, economics of scale
2) the car original price was RM220-250k+ your parts/engines etc are all based on that pricing. (this should give a good hint for a BMW too, look at the original price)

 

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