Is there any big difference between the quality of CBU vs CKD? Like C Class now CKD assembled in Malaysia cheaper, i believe some non-essential parts they also use Malaysia parts, so is there big difference in terms of quality & bult?

I believe CBU is made in South Africa, also will CKD last better in terms of small parts like rubber hose/rubber seals etc compared to CBU?

Any previous Mercedes owner know the difference between CBU & CKD of same models after using it for few years?

Cbu gt strict qc, ckd cincai buat saja... malaysia u know

Premium +-20%, CBU for peace of mind

Ppl rather pay the Extra 40K for CBU status

CBU = Quality control, like FrancescoTop8 said, peace of mind
CKD = Quality 5/10, U can modify jadi ricer, cheaper than CBU

have u all ever been to the mercedes manufacturing plant in pekan?

This post has been edited by NoNameSake: Oct 11 2015, 03:32 PM

not abt .... is worker attitude and behaviour ...

I heard qc there quite ok..better than most of ckd plants in malaysia

i've been there, and i can say this, every ckd mercedes car built there are hand weld, all of the component were assembled by hand not a single robot are use except during painting, where they dip the car in paint tank, not spray gun paint, and every car must pass a very strict qc, and if even there is single flaw the car will be allowed to be sold to customer.

This post has been edited by NoNameSake: Oct 11 2015, 03:46 PM

Thats is fantastic...i only know better than bmw...any youtube video to show

you mean the car body is 100% painted inside out?

what about Japanese cars? are they painted underneath?

lol come to msia dont have to uphhold their reputation right

So bad?

Ckd already localised to suit malaysia climate

Cbu later leaking here and there engine tak tahan malaysia weather

So many smartass here think they know better

Personally, I don't find any difference from naked eye and driving experience

I think we need to take a visit to Pekan plant then you are allow to comment on the quality

lol, everything also must talk shit about malaysia, even mercedes quality

If u not talk shit bout malaysia later ppl call u macai BN

ever watch how a ferrari car is painted? find out in youtube and u will know

u know how german work ethic are, they cannot tolerate with quality, every car have their specs and the workers must follow the specs 100%

u've never been there, and yet u dare to mock them, although they are not germans but i have lot of respect on them, one car only can be weld by only one welder per part, meaning that one welder can only weld one part of the car, and they must follow very strict qc with 0.001% margin error, their GM are german, very polite and down to earth, although he's the GM he only drove the cheapest mercedes and he even said that the mercedes sold in malaysia is overprice due to our tax

maybe he's not confident with local security, so choose the cheapest Mercedes, because he's not allowed to drive other brands car as the GM, if not i'm sure he's gonna drive a perodua or proton, or maybe a Kapchai like many Mat Sallehs working here.

The QC in Pekan plant is strictly monitored by Germans

Pekan plant is one of the highly rated that they one of their first oversea plant to be certified and allowed to install the latest S class

How do you explain Volkswagen's problems? German quality. Ya right.

Got so many moron in k/, with lowest mentality towards other Malaysian

May I ask, what about the local BMW plant? How's it.

wakakaka...CBU south africa is better than CKD in malaysia? funny leh
merc is big brand la dei...QC all over the world are the same..
u think CKD merc only malaysian drive ka dei to shut one eyes on QC...
come on la dei...jgn minom todi byk sangat la dei...

no wonder la malysia are at this level now...because people live with assumptions

Mostly /k drive only P1 P2 T&H, and now wanna comment Mercedes quality.

lol hahahahah

u comparing volkswagen and mercedes? both company are different, their targeted consumer is also different, in europe volkswagen is one of the cheapest car brand, only here volkswagen is consider as luxury car that's only because of the tax, if u order a brand new mercedes u have to wait for months, mercedes car are made by order not mass produce like volkswagen....

dunno CKD is for local market only or export, Thai no CKD plants?

Asal bukan recond cars. CKD or CBU doesn't matter to me.

not sure with thai...but here in singapore certain models are from pekan pahang...since the quality of CKD being question, let me tell u that singaporean are not like malaysian...u got defected products they dispute until can get 1 new car!

so tell me if CKD is less quality

some people doesn't like to show off although they are high ranking officer, doesn't mean u have the money u can spend like there's no tomorrow.

but Proton sold in overseas also come from same plant in Malaysia right? right? quality wise export models are better than local markets.

The QC at the Pekan plant is equivalent to the other assembly plants for Mercedes in the world. They have germans there monitoring as well
I wouldn't worry about it at all and I think 98% of Mercedes buyers in Malaysia won't worry about it either. Even if they do, the but are surely motivated by the price savings.

VW is the Proton equivalent in Germany - people's car.
They of course subsequently own Audi and Porsche which is up market.
I once spoke to some Mercedes senior executives and they told me to stop comparing VW and Mercedes - their most expensive car is Mercedes cheapest car. Not 100% correct but quite close.

But I'm sure GM Mercedes are give any Mercedes car they want to drive FOC, not his own money, unless he wanted exotic Mercedes. Sure S550 is not a problem, he will get Ahmad anyway. Probably wanna be low profile.

BTW, not sure if everyone is aware but Hap Seng is the biggest Mercedes Benx dealer in the world.

yea but Audi car is comparable to Mercedes. Porsche is comparable to Mercedes Sports lineup.

Got money to buy only open tered and ask about it.

Daisho cheapskate

lel..maybe most ppl who bashing ckd benz here dont even own a benz. just bashing anything that is associated with malaysia for the sake of bashing

Red shirt heard that.

Bye bye

Now mostly ckd assembled in pekan. Ini bukan proton tau.. Merc qc u think german bagi pass simply kah. Plus the difference over cbu prices is substantial.

This post has been edited by teehk_tee: Oct 11 2015, 06:33 PM

hoho

i drive lambo punya.

dun know

xp

Car industry people don't look at the group ownership level.
When they talk Volkswagen it's only Volkswagen.
When they talk Audi, it's only Audi regardless that it is part of VW group.
Same for Porsche.

Fiat also owns Ferarri but people treat them as completely different companies.

I often wonder why VW dsg gearbox is so much problem. The Porsche PDK is wonderful and very robust and I asked the people at Posrche why they don't share the knowledge with VW to improve their gearbox. The answer is they operate independently.

vw only own porsche but porsche work independently without vw interference, that how it should work, if vw takes over proton maybe proton would be one of the major player right now,but for the sake of cronyism....

CBU = Bought by stupid rich person who thinks Merc will allow quality control to drop just because its assembled locally.

CKD = Bought by stupid poor person who want to appear rich but cannot afford to buy the real thing thus settle for lower cheap version.

What is Volvo's position these days in comparison
With the German marquees?

so inhell chip that produced kat other country should be better than malaysia 1

For C & S class, the CKD parts are 100% from Germany. They came like lego set. Only E class are with local parts.

jom, lawatan sambil belajar to Mercedes CKD plant in Pekan

Count me in lel

Already went lawatan sambil belajar kilang Proton last year

what you mean by 'real thing'?

do you think CBU is made in germany?

Dunno about merc....but vw ckd mmg sucks....sooooo much diferen siaaaa....headlamp...side mirror...engine covers...demm sakit mata tgk...but not cheap oso...

they allow kah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueye3IWuotU

South Africa Land Rover Is To Expensive

wtf qc so bad? got flaw also give customer?

i think he meant won't sell to customer.

anyway i still find it funny recon shops trying to sell previous gen C180 for rm150k...

and they are selling current C200 for like 250k, more expensive than brand new C200 CKD...

and the best part is they sell A Class A200 around rm200k. I mean the spec for CBU really so advance people rather buy recon A200 than brand new CKD at higher price somemore?

i find quality of CBU is better after driving for couple months.
I got it from my cousin as he fully imported from England after his studied and worked as Aircraft engineer for couple years before back to Malaysia

i'm guessing the car is at least 8 years old.

why he sell it?

7 years old B class at RM40K, mileage 90k

Benz CKD definitely got some problems

Quality control is not on par with CBU

some people think that the qc guy in pekan is a cincai amik tepi jalan. No need interview all.

if really ckd quality is same with cbu quality...why bother bringing in cbu units ?

at the end of the day...it's your wallet that decides

inb4 ayam poorfag, can't afford conti cars

This post has been edited by lyc1982: Jul 20 2017, 01:51 PM

7 years 40k, still quite pricey lo. i mean i hear CKD B class alot of issues, end up cost alot to fix. urs sounds fine.

CBU usually fresh launch new model, local factory not yet CKD, normally takes 6-12 months to CKD.

about bringing in CBU, like the recon, i don't know.

Recon CBU selling more expensive than New CKD, i wonder who buy, really that worth meh the premium for a used car just because it has better quality & maybe some additional gadgets to sacrifice a New Car with Full Warranties & local SC support?

/k many expert what

is it?
but have checked market price is 50k to 60k !
anyway comfort to drive, better sound proof quality.

still much better than Myvi, as long no need much repair then very good lo.

Yes agree.

After comparing experiences of those W205-C200 car owners mentioned CKD versions have encountered problems on display LCD screen get blurred images, unexplanable error messages on screen, battery power warning, etc. However, CBU versions encountered less to nil such challenges.

wa new car also like this?

Just bash. Kesian malaysia. Anything made in malaysia kena bash. U know their qc is the same here, even cbu got issues, angmoh also 50% ular type

Volkswagen even cbu also shit quality la it's the brand problem, not where the car is assembled

many many moons ago, i was working there overseeing prep for the c-class, s-class production launches.

alot of QC is far lower than other plants, and they are mostly manually assembled compared to the robots in more proper plants. on the whole workers attitude is ok, just limited by plant capability

I have. We deliver various stickers to them.
Their QA, ok la. So so nia.

Good adviced here..

Cause now I comparing between CBU 2016 new car at 100k discount...

Vs new CKD 2018 car at about 50k more then the above...

unless it's s class or maybach, you can expect cbu or ckd to age like milk.
it's a german afterall.

Yes mostly kampung rempits and banglasia work there.

Same goes to Toyota and Lexus also.
Although Toyota owns Lexus, Toyota cannot campur tangan Lexus too.

Toyota & Lexus is different that they were original the same company just different brand to cater different market. they share alot of tech between each other if not you think Lexus can be Lexus if they built Lexus from scratch?

Same goes for Nissan & Infiniti, Honda & Acura, they are still the same company. unless you say Nissan now owned by Renault but Infiniti is independent.

For Porsche & VW it's very different as VW bought over Porsche and there are terms & conditions included in the purchase same as Geely & Proton. Unless Porsche went bankrupt and has no bargaining power, Porsche will retain their own Trademarks & Patents and won't be shared with VW. There will be some technology transfer but it won't be simple as copy pasta.

Same as Lotus & Proton, Lotus tunes some Proton cars but Proton doesn't really interfere with Lotus nor does Lotus provide full technology transfer to Proton.

Also Audi & Porsche being under VW group doesn't mean the shareholders of VW is the same as Audi & Porsche thus there are restrictions on what these companies can do for each other.

People have learnt the mistake from Compaq and has come up with many terms & conditions during a buy over.