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post Oct 7 2015, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(upgraded @ Oct 7 2015, 11:46 AM)
anyone try MYLK original from brewell USA before ??
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yes i have, very subtle, not for those looking for a flavorful vape. Overall i'd give it a 6/10.
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post Oct 9 2015, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(suj87 @ Oct 9 2015, 01:06 PM)
Hi guys. Got this long long message on whatsapp. Will post it here. Tell me what do you guys think about this. Let me just stress I did not write this and I do not know who did. Just thought the writer has some valid points. Please read and let me know what you guys think
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Surat Kepada Brewer dan Tokey Vape..

1. Semua penguna vape tahu kos untuk membuat liquid tidak sampai RM5 ringgit.. Jika botol liquid di "UPGRADE" kepada botol kaca pun masih tidak sampai 1 ringgit.. kerana harga botol plastik hanyalah RM 0.70 sen dan botol Kaca RM1.50.. beza hanya 80 sen.. Tetapi harga Liquid botol plastik RM40 dan botol kaca RM50-60. Sungguh menyedihkan apabila kita menghentam kerajaan yang menindas rakyat dan zalim sedangkan banyak brewer dan tokey vape menindas komuniti vape dengan harga yang melampau2.

2. Semua tahu brewer ada resepi masing masing dan memerlukan proses peram yang lama untuk menghasilkan liquid yang berkualiti.. tetapi tahukah anda BUDU memerlukan 10 jenis bahan dan proses peram selama 40 hari minimum dan proses packaging yg setaraf antarabangsa botol kaca dan sealed dengan plastik. kapasaiti satu botol budu 250ml dengan harga RM4.50. tokey budu masih kaya. Tokey budu pun ada kilang dan pekerja juga.

3. Ramai brewer yang menyatakan bahawa flavour yang digunakan adalah dari US.. adakah kami bodoh. harga flavour US Grade di Amazon adalah 6 dolar untuk 1 OZ bersamaan 29.5ml.. atau dengan kata RM30 untuk 30ML. Satu botol iaitu 1 OZ dapat menghasilkan 7-10 botol liquid kerana bahan lain adalah VG, PG,  STEVIA, MINT, MENTHOL dan pelbagai lagi...

4. Harga 5 liter untuk PG ialah RM30 ringgit dan 5 liter VG adalah RM80 ringgit di kedai2 yang menjual bahan2 untuk membuat kek.. campuran 10 liter PG dan VG boleh menghasilkan 300 botol liquid.. dan kos hanyalah RM0.36 sen untuk 30ml.. Jika dicampur flavour US yang 'MAHAL DIKATAKAN' stevia mint menthol dan botol kaca kos masih lagi sangat murah. dibawah RM5 ringgit..

5. Jikalau harga kos dikatakan mahal untuk membayar pekerja dan kilang semua.. 'INGATLAH.. KILANG BUDU PUN PAKAI PEKERJA DAN GUNA KILANG JUGA'.. jangan sampai saya sampai libatkan botol kicap, sos cili, minyak mahal olive oil dan banyak lagi..

6. Patutlah saya mendengar cerita sampai ada tokey2 brewer pakai Lamboghini. Dan ayat paling sedap didengar ialah "JANGAN BUANG HARGA, JAGALAH SCENE VAPE KITA'... dan saya tanya andalah tokey2 dan brewer, SIAPA YANG BAKAL MEMBUNUH SCENE KITA? SIAPA SEBENARNYA? tepuk dada tanya selera.

7. Anatara isu isu besar yg dimainkan oleh kerajaan ialah isu vaping di bawah umur... SIAPA YANG MENJUAL DI BAWAH UMUR WAHAI TOKEY2 VAPE? siapa yang membunuh scene vape. DAHLAH HARGA LIQUID MAHAL WAHAI TOKEY2 DAN BREWER..

8. Keadaan ekonomi yang tidaklah berapa baik, kos sara hidup yang tinggi, harga liquid mmg tidak masuk akal. Jangan sesekali membandingkan harga liquid dengan US. kerana ingatlah harga timun sebatang di Malaysia ialah rm0.80 sen. di New Zealand RM 6 ringgit sebatang jika kita convert duit kita.. Jangan kita memandai nak convert semua benda kerana faktor ekonomi dan mata wang adalah berbeza berdasarkan keperluan ekonomi negara tersebut. Kami tidak bodoh.

9. Jika kita benci kerajaan menindas kita, pemimpin yg korup, peniaga2 yang menindas penguna.. Kenapa kami sebagai penguna ditindas dengan kejam harga yang tidak masuk akal didalam "SCENE VAPE"... yer saya ulang sekali lagi "SCENE VAPE"..

10. Saya sebagai rakyat marhaen hanya menulis untuk melahirkan ketidak puasan hati sebagai pengguna. harap2 tidaklah ada ayat2 dari pemimpin Ahmad Maslan seperti 'xmampu hisap john' 'ayam mahal makan daging' 'ikan mahal jangan makan ikan'...

11. Belum ada cukai dah mahal dan menindas. apalagi kalau kerajaan kenakan cukai.. Lagi mahal lah jawabya..

12. Please Share. Tq.. sekian terima kasih..
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I totally agree, i personally have a brewer friend, his cost was A LOT less than RM5 (more towards RM3.50) per 30ml. He priced it at 40 bucks just because "the others do it too". Even though his juice is not that popular, he still moves a few thousand bottles a month and earns a lot more than your typical 20k /k/standard.

Not to mention his juice isn't even that good, way too sweet and too minty, the two very common traits of local juices which is why i just can't give local brewers my full support, shitty product at exorbitant rip off prices. I'd say getting it to RM10-15 per 30ml would be the most i'd pay for a local juice.
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post Oct 9 2015, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Tenshi @ Oct 9 2015, 05:11 PM)
KGD?
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So far i've not seen any vape shops carrying KGD. I did bought like 5 of them direct from Japan a year back, sold out almost instantly. 1 packet has lasted more than a year for me, totally worth it, most consistent cotton i've tried thus far.
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post Oct 12 2015, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(sui @ Oct 12 2015, 01:11 AM)
does anyone know if its legal to bring our personal vape gear / e-cig into South Korea: Seoul & Jeju?

flying with AirAsia & EastarJet

TQ
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Hey, i'm going to Korea as well today. Will be bringing my vape set and a single bottle of juice. Hope everything goes well since e-cigs I checked are legal there.
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post Oct 12 2015, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Roshie @ Oct 12 2015, 11:52 AM)
Safe trip bro.. Do share with us your experience later smile.gif
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Thanks bro will do. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(vcfong @ Oct 12 2015, 12:17 PM)
what about China?
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If i'm not mistaken it is illegal in China, despite most of the mods come from there, lol. But i've never been to China with my vape set so i can't say for sure. sweat.gif
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post Oct 12 2015, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(michael666 @ Oct 12 2015, 12:54 PM)
China didn't ban vape. In fact they have a lot if review about MY juice. And they have lots more variety of US, EU juice.they have more vapex than us. And very frequent. If u know Chinese. Go visit their forum. Full of surprise as their news is much more update than us.
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Thats good then, cus from the sources i checked it said their government banned them.
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post Oct 20 2015, 04:22 PM

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Is there any vape shop that has stock of Steep Popdeez and Mothers Milk? Been looking everywhere, all out of stock.
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post Oct 23 2015, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(junkieG @ Oct 23 2015, 06:38 PM)
live from my office room..

im a vaper. i love vaping! been vaping for half decade.

Wa syiok sama vape, boss wa kat office x kasik. butoh dia la. depan2 ckp ok kata im ok and im used to chemical smells..butoh dia! belakang kata x ok . memula ckp x kasik pasal ada staff complaint. ok fine. now staff tuh dah blah ke unit lain, aku pon vape la INSIDE MY OPEN ROOM WITH OPENED WINDOW! lagi skali cibai tuh kata xleh gak..else nak kasik aku warning letter.

BUTO AAA AKU SUKA VAPE LA CIBAI! salah ke!?

FYI unit aku skrg nih hanya ada staff aku yg semua pon kata ok and cool Termasuklah HR division yg ada dlm 3 org amoi...

see i like vaping, boss aku x suka. hence aku akan bikin duct aluminium yg akan aku diy bersama 120mm intake fan yg akan aku beli kat kedai komputer dan itu alu duct hose aku dah usha harga rm80+ pantek mahal la plak jilake!

fuck ar..aku nie multimedia designer..otak nak kene tenang sambil vape sambil berkarya...ingat x guna otak ker!?

ini lah aku...aku adalah aku! fuck la still a policy is still a fucking policy...now nak vape kene langkah dalam 6-7 tapak jumpa toilet vape...ko hingat aku bole berpikir ke tgk toilet bowl tuh!? butooo llaaaaaa!!! fuck fukc fuck!!!

aku emo nih!
ini bukan pasal racist!

ini aku x faham kenapa memula lu ok passtue lu x ok?!u ceret depan2 wa...fuck ah...
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As a 3 year vaper veteran, i say screw you and your inconsiderate behavior. Kalau nak vape pun buat kat luar la, don't vape in the office. Bos dah kata jangan, jangan la buat, ko kasi buruk aje nama vaper.

Tolonglah pergi mampus.

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post Oct 24 2015, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(junkieG @ Oct 23 2015, 08:26 PM)
3 years and you proclaim urself as vaper vateran?

gosh give this men a cookie and medal!

Dah bukak tingkap la bodo siap dlm bilik yg aku sorang duduk bau pon x keluar bilik la aku dah tanya semua org dlm 10 org kata x bau apa2. kata veteran sgt. u screw me? OK Veteran vaper self proclaimed ...

HAHAAHAHAHAH! ko bole pergi meninggal laju laju pls!
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Nampak sangat ko nih dasar orang yg tak menghormati orang lain. Pegi mampos lah.

Because of people like you vapers are hated. Bodoh bertingkat2.
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post Oct 26 2015, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(ekudz @ Oct 26 2015, 11:21 AM)
if bulk try nego with vape69 or kudeta vape, kota damansara ..
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i would rather go direct with the brewers themselves, but all depends on the MOQ, and they usually set them extremely high in order to get that special price.

i heard the MOQ for any juice from Suicide Bunny must be at least RM100-200k per shipment to qualify for the distributor price.

i could get in bulk from not-so-famous US brewers for like RM1-5k worth for half their sticker price though. Good shit nonetheless.
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Oct 26 2015, 03:16 PM)
good luck with kastam
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now THAT is a huge problem unfortunately. This what puts me off in importing some liquids for my personal enjoyment. Kena ada lobang with kastam man. cry.gif

so now i'm wondering those who do import this stuff, how do they do it? They all have lobang at Kastam or what? Or they all have a central distributor who has that lobang?
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post Oct 26 2015, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(ekudz @ Oct 26 2015, 04:08 PM)
usually they pay the tax .. they usually kongsi2 with among vapeshop
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Bukan illegal ke bringing in liquid containing nicotine after a certain amount? 10 liters kalau x silap.
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post Oct 27 2015, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(olivur @ Oct 27 2015, 02:56 PM)
try bombies agent p! it's cheaper than most other premium American juices and it's strawberry pops more than mother's milk / unicorn sick
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Any idea where to get Agent P other than vapekulture (currently out of stock)?

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