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But over the years, how many Fundsupermart.com v12, Najibnomics to lift KLCI?
Fundsupermart.com v12, Najibnomics to lift KLCI?
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Oct 25 2015, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 24 2015, 10:51 PM) On a serious note, I did consider Its due to forex Xuzen On the contrary, my not-so-scientific observations, when my equities dropped, my bond funds rise |
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Oct 25 2015, 01:01 AM
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2-year chart of RHB Asian Total Return vs Asian Equities vs Ponzi 2.0
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Oct 25 2015, 08:08 AM
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Oct 25 2015, 09:58 AM
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Oct 25 2015, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 25 2015, 10:18 AM) xuzen, thanks. So we should set a target of profit say 15% from a particular fund and then sell to rebalance out funds. Am I right? IMHO don't set a target profit %.If it is profitable, why sell? Something may have a "fair" worth of $100. But due to some circumstances, market priced it at $50. U "think" that 20% gain is very good. And u sold it off at $60. But the "true" worth of it is $100. And so u will miss out on the ride toward $100. Frankly speaking, I think u have been asking too much for your own good. You're almost like, asking men how to date women... When all men are different, all women are different... The more u ask, the more u get confused, the more u dunno Just start doing it, learn as u go along, nothing will teach u as well as actual experiencing it. u will learn to develop your own style... u will learn how market conditions affect your portfolio... u will learn how your buy/sell/hold decisions affect your returns... and so on and on... As for why I sold Ping Pong Biskut@Hup Seng shares... Stocks =/= UTs A stock is a share in a company A UT fund is investing in a basket of different stocks, and that basket changes from time to time, it is dynamic A stock can become overpriced A UT cannot become overpriced by looking at its historical return A $100 stock if it gives $10 dividend p.a., gives u 10% dividend yield If that stock rose to $333 and the dividend remains the same, the dividend yield becomes 3% And I've already made 200%+ gain on the stock value I sold it off (i.e. cash out/take profit) to move my money to the next stock that can give me the next big profit But a UT fund that is priced at $1.0000 one year ago If it is priced at $2.0000 now, u CANNOT say that it is overpriced now I won't repeat the explanation again, it's at Post #1 This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 25 2015, 11:57 AM |
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Oct 25 2015, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Oct 25 2015, 11:18 AM) Alright, my investing strategy will be like this, investing 500 per month to a specific fund. So my concern is will they charge me 2% on every subsequent investment per month? Unker Looi too long-winded As long as u haven't achieved Silver, Gold or Platinum status, what u see on the fund info page is the sales charge that u have to pay (excluding GST). So, it's 2% + 6% i.e. to invest net RM100, u gotta pay RM100 x (2% + 6%) = RM102.12. Full stop. And yes there's discount for new accounts. |
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Oct 25 2015, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 25 2015, 12:17 PM) Thank you people. No, no and no.I think i know what to do now. Just few more questions. I am not working at the moment. 1) is the returns from fsm income taxable? 2) assuming (1) is yes, then will I need to declare in income tax or the returns will be auto tax (like dividends from shares)? 3) assuming (1) is yes, if I don't cash out, am I still taxable? (just holding and don't do anything) QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 25 2015, 12:09 PM) Different people, different strategies. I guess you must be confused now. That's unfair! Why xuzen first and not Pinky first??? I tell you what; give yourself one year, try out Xuzen's strategy. See if it works for you. If it doesn't, change to Pinky's strategy. This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 25 2015, 12:20 PM |
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Oct 25 2015, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 25 2015, 12:21 PM) Err...I meant u no need to declare anything. Taxes, if any, would be already deducted at source.When KLSE stocks pay dividends to the Fund, the dividends is already tax-exempt i.e. already deducted tax at company level. |
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Oct 25 2015, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Oct 25 2015, 12:43 PM) Seriously I am amazed by the patience, dedication and effort by Pink Spider, Xuzen, Unker Looi and others in posting lengthy replies and explanations to guide the new members to FSM. I can PM u my FSM account number...u can buy RM60 worth of CMF for me to sell and buy a bucket of beer This is especially so during this weekend when the CIS of FSM are closed. At least CIS gets paid but you guys are doing it voluntarily. You earned my respect. How I wish some reward scheme is possible |
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Oct 25 2015, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Oct 25 2015, 01:56 PM) Lai lai I give you 1 like. No need PM, just ask here.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Do you mind me to PM you to ask you something? Eh eh eh, the super loud tin kosong is here With his illuminati and conspiracy theories Go buy physical gold and hide under your well lar...at most is some frogs will go lick 'em. Go go go And go pay for your nasi campur using gold dust This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 25 2015, 02:20 PM |
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Oct 25 2015, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 25 2015, 02:51 PM) Portfolio approach QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 25 2015, 02:49 PM) Those fund that are usually discussed here are all doing 20++% p.a. consistently for the past three years. Oi don't overboast...u just giving those tin kosong chance to later say that we all are penipu yang sial... Those that are not performing well like those get forgotten and will never be brought up for mention. Xuzen 10%+ got lar...where got 20%++? |
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Oct 25 2015, 03:01 PM
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Oct 25 2015, 03:12 PM
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Oct 25 2015, 03:35 PM
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Oct 25 2015, 04:44 PM
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Oct 25 2015, 06:25 PM
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Oct 25 2015, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Oct 25 2015, 05:58 PM) Wow u remember my words. Ayam so flattered Yeah, it's a futile effort trying to pick the best of funds. Those who've been with FSM long enough should remember... Some time ago, Pacific Global Stars is the star performer among global equity funds, CIMB Global Titans and RHB Global Equity Yield were shitty performers. At that point of time, global markets were weak, Pacific outperformed because it kept having high cash holdings, and it kept changing positions i.e. it trades quite often. It's also quite heavy in Asia ex Japan compared to the latter two. Then this situation reversed now when Developed Markets performed strongly. Still wanna (try to) pick the best of funds? QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 25 2015, 06:13 PM) I meant at least 4 funds, not at least 4 bond funds |
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