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IvanWong1989
post Oct 25 2015, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 25 2015, 09:33 AM)
Just for Ramjade,

I entered TA Global Tech fund in Jul15 and as off yesterday, my YTD ROI is 12.XX%.  I am taking profit by "selling" it to "buy" CIMB Titan on Monday. Like I say, the proper term is called switching.

So, yes.. UT investor take profit and move on. Why then you ask switch when it is profitable? Didn't I just mention ride with the profit?

Global Tech and Titan have very close correlation coefficient, in lay man term, their movement is very similar and as such, in a portfolio, they are interchangeable. But, Titan present a better risk-adjusted return compared to TA Tech fund so I jump ship and piggyback onto a new ride.

It's like both are taxi service going from KLIA to Sentral KL. TA Tech is Airport Limo and Titan is Uber. Titan is cheaper, more efficient and faster.... sure I will chose Titan lar!

Xuzen
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Bang Xuzen...

wanna ask, how do you see both are close correlating?

From graph? or Numbers?
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post Oct 25 2015, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 25 2015, 09:41 AM)
The number known as correlation coefficient is a factor and is available to me and professional fund managers.

Lay person do not have access to this numbers but I have been in the inside and I know people who can "share" with me the numbers.

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Understood. smile.gif

flex.gif thanks bro!
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post Oct 25 2015, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 25 2015, 01:56 PM)
Ponzi 1.0 ---> Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund

Ponzi 2.0 ---> CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund

Evergreen Fund / Lee Sook Yee wub.gif  ---> Kenanga Growth Fund

Aladdin Fund ---> Aberdeen Islamic World Equity Fund

Small-Cap Fund  ---> Eastspring Investment Small-Cap Fund

Titanic Fund  ---> CIMB-Principle Global Titan Fund

Anitamui Fund ---> Libra Asnita Bond Fund

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anything else I missed out  icon_question.gif
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..... somehow...... i feeling semacam je... anitamui become permanent legend in lowyat forum. LOL.
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post Oct 25 2015, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Oct 25 2015, 08:30 PM)
Spent almost a week to finish v1 leh. Learn a lot from there, especially from you and wongseafood. You call Mr Wong sifu I call you sifu can ah? tongue.gif

BTW, v2 - v9 worth the time to read ah? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 25 2015, 09:20 PM)
No need lar sweat.gif
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When I was newbie here I really did skim through v1 v2. .. lol. Sipek so many posts. .. just scroll while working lol
Lots of valuable info from fellow seafood here.


QUOTE(larisSa @ Oct 25 2015, 09:34 PM)
Newbie asks :"why is it a permanent legend ?"
Steady ?
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 25 2015, 09:47 PM)
That AnitaMuiBond fund...what's so special about it?

Just compared it to the likes of

AmDynamic Bond
RHB Income Fund 2
Eastspring Bond Plus

Lebih kurang sama je...
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Lol misunderstood the meaning of my legend here.

Anita Mui RIP long ago lol. But here name remain remembered in our heart here.
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post Oct 25 2015, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 25 2015, 10:57 PM)
yalor.. It's already like 11year+ she RIP  sad.gif

but I wonder why the name Anita Mui Fund?  icon_question.gif
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Lisbra Asnita Bond Fund.

Ryhmes with

Anita Mui Bond Fund what. Lol.
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post Oct 27 2015, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 27 2015, 06:14 PM)
u guys don't so active can or not sweat.gif
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LOL.... first time ever for me my gmail notification keep popping up like mad. LOL.

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more info.more clicks. LOL
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post Oct 27 2015, 07:29 PM

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Do keep in mind that it is so called appearing very frequently in this thread. But doesn't mean it will 100% confirm betul betul good fund yea.

As with anything.

There are risks in everything.
Only thing we can do is make informed decisions and minimize risk.

As with daily fund prices.
Open the fund. Open the chart for the fund.

First view will give u performance in percentage.
Click 20 day Simple Moving Average. You will see the price of the fund.

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post Oct 27 2015, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(loyalkkk @ Oct 27 2015, 10:37 PM)
They answered upon my request. Top services thumbup.gif
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i have a feeling they do patrol this thread lol
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post Oct 27 2015, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 27 2015, 10:49 PM)
hmm.gif why do I have this feeling that the NAV of GTF is going to DROPS (become "Cheaper" in NAV price) in the next 2 days.  doh.gif  tongue.gif

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...nouncement.svdo
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whoa.... didn't notice that... LOL....


oh well... doesn't really matter right. LMAO... or does it matter when we want to buy? LOL
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post Oct 27 2015, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 27 2015, 11:07 PM)
in b4 some people will come screaming by end of this week that the Titanic sank and ask what happened biggrin.gif

let us all ignore them laugh.gif
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*Panic*

WHY IS MY TITANIC SINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*Retort*

It has already sunk....
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post Oct 28 2015, 09:13 AM

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Question.

When there's distribution.

The existing holders technically no effect.

But what about buyers? Or those that want top up.

"Cheaper" to buy at nav after distribution ?
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post Oct 28 2015, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2015, 09:20 AM)
U invest RM1,000
U get RM1,000

What cheaper?

With UT, don't think of yourself "buying" something
Just think of yourself putting RMx into a fund for a fund manager to invest for u
No such thing as "cheap" or "expensive"
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Before distribution.
1.0 per unit
Buy rm1000. Get 1000 units.

After distribution.
0.5 per unit.
Buy rm1000. Get 2000 units.


I anyhow gonna dca in. Lol. Plus minus one two days only. Haha

Not like that a?

This post has been edited by IvanWong1989: Oct 28 2015, 09:54 AM
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post Oct 28 2015, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2015, 09:55 AM)
Before:
the mooncake is cut into 4 slices
U get 2 alices

After:
the mooncake is cut into 8 slices
U get 4 slices

I won't repeat this anymore, go read Post #1 AGAIN AGAIN AND AGAIN
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Hmm.....

Thought it only applied to existing holders with units already owned . Lol.

So it applies to going to buy also. Haha. Ok.
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post Oct 28 2015, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2015, 10:03 AM)
Fund ABC has RM120m before u invest
Now u invest RM30m into Fund ABC
Now it becomes RM150m, and u will now own 20% of the fund

Distribution or no distribution, u STILL own 20% of the fund
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Icic.

Thanks for the explanation.

Percentage of ownership of the total pie available.
Whether it is cut into small slices or big slices. Percentage with regards to the whole pie still holds true.

As such doest matter whether the pie is sliced small or big.
What matters is the pie in it entirety gets bigger.


Gonna pin this into my notes. Sorry for frustration. Was not fully understanding the explanation on first page.
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post Oct 28 2015, 10:15 AM

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Pink Spider

Thank you for your patience
Don't angry don't angry.

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post Oct 28 2015, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2015, 10:23 AM)
Nvm lar

Let the newbies be my punching bag tongue.gif
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saya rela. if i can learn from sifu.
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post Oct 28 2015, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 28 2015, 10:33 AM)
Jesus. I remembered when I did my first purchase of Unit trusts. I did all the research went into FSM. then took their research articles and then compared it to morningstar's research funds. Then came back here to read again.

WTF. why is everyone being fukken lazy and not doing their research?

Google unit trust 101 please. People like Xuzen and Pinkspider have helped enough with the threads and now you ask them the most basic questions.
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not to say i didn't do my research.

i understand that when there is distribution. it means nothing. as my total value already inside remains the same. just the units get diluted.


I got confused on the buying part. maybe can say my math fail. but yes I got confused and I asked. Sorry bout that.

icon_rolleyes.gif ><....seems like i stirred everybody up this morning.... ><


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post Oct 28 2015, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2015, 10:46 AM)
Ali, Bala, Calvin and Dinesh invested RM10,000 each in Ponzi 3.0
After distribution, they all still hold RM10,000 each (25% each)
Esther then wanna join in the party, and invested RM10,000
Now they all hold 20% (RM10,000 / RM50,000 x 100%) of Ponzi 3.0

If no distribution...
Ali, Bala, Calvin and Dinesh invested RM10,000 each in Ponzi 3.0
Esther then wanna join in the party, and invested RM10,000
Now they all hold 20% (RM10,000 / RM50,000 x 100%) of Ponzi 3.0

DON'T BOTHER ABOUT UNITS
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icon_rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif I already understand fully from ur previous explanation le. the mooncake slices one.


that was very very visual. sweat.gif understood straight away. LOL

Eh.
Sorry to make ur morning hot hot vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif
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post Oct 28 2015, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2015, 11:39 AM)
Lose money is easy

Let people chase 9 streets asking why u lost their money is another laugh.gif

I also tried selling FSM to my friends
1 of them, savings account also kena research for months, spent toll and petrol just to find the bank that can give extra 0.x% returns, e-FD pun tak berani put doh.gif
Another...rather go to an agent...cos ada lenglui agent belanja yamcha at fancy café...maybe got nice longkang to peek brows.gif

So I gave up on my friends, their money their problem biggrin.gif
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got fren ask me fsm 2% sales charge only. wat fund to recommend.


i show my red table to him. he scared liau. then put in fd.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 28 2015, 11:49 AM)
that is good way to start preparing him....
I got in May 2013...almost all EQ and FI funds in FSM had been so good that had difficulty selecting....based from their past few years of performance track records...I was so confident that I can make some $$, but 2 weeks after I made all the purchases...FED said QE stopping... doh.gif
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Haha. to be prepared to see red. And hold stable.

Explained to him it's normal to see red. As long as underlying market is ok.

But it's normal reaction for new people. See red means no go.
Now I trained to see red and see it as top up signal. Sometimes. LOL


QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 28 2015, 11:52 AM)
Now show him again... all so green now!

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Half green. LOL.

ponzi 2.0 and small cap still lagginghahah

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