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post Dec 18 2015, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 18 2015, 03:55 PM)
I see, quite close already.. Heard the new architecture is very powerful.. But I guess I'll just go with the current one first.. That's why I'm thinking of getting the i7 instead of the i5, for future proofing.
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QUOTE(Jitty @ Dec 20 2015, 12:39 AM)
Hi guys, noob here. Can you guys suggest/recommend a mid range gaming PC rig for me.
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[Budget] Rm3000

[Purpose] 1080p gaming (Not 2k or 4k gaming), surfing the web, watch video/drama/movie.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] AOC 1080p monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers.

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] CSGO, Dota 2, Just cause 3, Tom Clancys Rainbow Six Siege, Life is strange

[Personal preferences]

1) Preferable White case (NZXT) with White LED. White is my fav color happy.gif
2) 8GB or 16GB ram
[Location] KL/ PJ

Thanks Guys.
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 855
Gigabyte B150M-D3H - RM 403
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 197
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ZT-90302-10M - RM 856
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
NZXT S340 - RM 320

Total: RM 3028 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 20 2015, 01:35 AM)
Can the FSP Hexa+ 550w run the Zotac GTX970 Amp!?
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QUOTE(NearN @ Dec 20 2015, 05:46 AM)
hi there ,can you quote me for this system

[cool.gif[Budget]-1500 max

[Purpose]-casual gaming,browsing,movie

[Hardwares that will be re-use]-GPU,PSU and HDD

[Monitor resolution-1600x900

[Games & softwares that use frequently]-dota 2,office,browsing

[Personal preferences]-mini itx board+intel processor

[Location]-sg buloh
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Need to know your GPU length to recommend mITX case and if possible please state the model of PSU and GPU.

QUOTE(popiah04 @ Dec 20 2015, 10:08 AM)
Thanks for your input.

Further enquiries before I proceed.

1. Is there any distinctive difference between, H81M-K and H81M-D? (as referenced to Viewnet price list)

From Asus web,
H81M-D
1 x PCIe x16
2 x PCIe 2.0 x1
2 x SATA 6Gb/s port(s)
2 x SATA 3Gb/s port(s)

This should be sufficient for my existing hardware (3x HDD), Creative soundcard, and a "future" upgrade of one SSD HDD, am I right?

Extra note, there is no info about H81M-K from Asus web.

I am still undecided on which motherboard is suitable.

2. At this moment, do you think getting the Skylake processor is "future-proofing" my desktop? I understand it's kinda unpredictable on how long Intel is going to continue with LGA1150 platform. Or talking from cost effective point of view, just ignore Skylake and proceed with Haswell?

3. The Techview you are mentioning, is it located in Jaya One? The price that you post, seems more competitive than Viewnet.

P/s the purpose of this desktop is just light gaming, and HD movies to plasma.

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1. H81M-D has parallel and COM ports which normal consumer won't use it nowadays. 4 total SATA ports with 2 with reduced speed of 3Gb/s, this is chipset limitation, if you want more SATA ports, go for B85/H97.

2. Intel has stopped production or development for any product under LGA1150 after LGA1151 came out, only patch will be released for this platform in the future (i.e. INF patch). If you want cost effective, go for Haswell with cheapest lowest end chipset mobo, they are much cheaper than DDR4 based Skylake, of course you can opt for Skylake and run it with DDR3, this will further reduce the total cost and will match the cost of Haswell but not recommended to do so (there is an article to the reason in the post quoted earlier).

3. Yes Techview is in Jaya One..


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QUOTE(mfahdr @ Dec 20 2015, 06:03 PM)
Planning to buy complete build-up rig around RM3500 for gaming purposes,requirement Intel i5 6500 and GTX970 (since do not have guts to build the rig by my own). Will be using my existing keyboard, mouse, 1600x900p monitor (planning to buy 1080p monitor in the future), and speaker. Appreciate your comment on the below configuration:-

Processor: I5 6500 RM855
GPU: Palit GTX970 Single Fan 4GB DDR5 RM1,399
Mobo: Asrock 150M-HDV D4 RM399
RAM : G.Skill NT Series 2x4G Dual DDR4 2133 mhx RM249
PSU : FSP Hexa + 550W RM199
Case : Sharkloon T3-W RM120
HDD : WD 1TB Caviar Blue RM219
Total : RM3439 (Source: Idealtech)

Additional question:-
1. Did i need to install soundcard in this rig so i can use my speaker for gaming, watching movie, etc?
2. I'm also planning to buy wireless adapter and Optical drive (dvd). Is the PSU sufficient enough to power the rig?

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1. No need, internal sound card is enough for normal consumer.

2. Can, both of them consume very little power only.

The mobo that you've selected only has 2 RAM slots and you are getting 2 x 4GB so meaning no more future upgrade to either 12GB/16GB/higher unless you replace the RAM entirely.
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Dec 20 2015, 09:30 PM)
hi cfus. suggest me a rig please icon_question.gif

[Budget] 2.5K

[Purpose]Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]hdd+ssd

[Monitor resolution]1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] DOTA 2

[Personal preferences] microATX build

[Location]KL

is it possible for my budget to run latest game at high setting@1080p ?
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Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 809
MSI H110M Pro-VH - RM 329
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 200
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ITX - RM 799 (Christmas promotion)
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
CM N200 - RM 185

Total: RM 2511 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Depends on how you define high, if your standard is low - med - high - very high - ultra then most likely yes, but still need to depend on the optimization from the games developers.
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post Dec 21 2015, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 21 2015, 04:59 AM)
What is the difference between the Zotax GTX 970 Amp Extreme and the Amp Extreme Core? The clock looks faster on the Amp Extreme Core, but the Amp Extreme card looks godly!
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The AMP! Extreme takes 3 slots and make sure your case has enough clearance to fit it.

Mainly cooling and design difference, the small difference of core and memory clock maybe will only bring 1 to 3 FPS difference but you can overclock the slower card to match the fastest card as always if you wish.
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 21 2015, 09:14 AM)
So it's basically up to personal design preference? The Amp Extreme looks way better for me but it's quite bulky. The light ID is kinda cool. And it also looked as it has a lot more features.
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Yup, it applies to other brands too, all are using same GTX970 Maxwell chip, so performance will be within the similar range, it is just the matter of personal brand preferences/price/design/features etc.

The Extreme card is very huge compared to other cards, it would take 3 slots so the max SLI you can achieve with it is 2-way SLI only.
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 21 2015, 09:41 AM)
I see. And it's a bit of cheaper I think compared to the Extreme Core? I have still yet to decide on which to go. I don't mind the space it takes actually. The design of the Amp Extreme looks high-end compared to the basic design of the Extreme Core. But I do have a Xonar sound card to fit.
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You still can find Extreme? I tried to search but found nothing sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Neomax3 @ Dec 21 2015, 11:42 AM)
[Budget] 4k

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor and hdd

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] totally FPS

[Personal preferences] Jonsbo case + corsair water cooled + 128gb ssd

[Location] KL

Possible to get high end gaming rig with this budget?  sweat.gif
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Jonsbo case is pretty rare in Malaysia, I only found one seller's selling it, which is GBros. Any personal preferences on which Jonsbo case to get (specific form factor if no preferred case model)?
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 21 2015, 12:13 PM)
I'm not too sure if there's stock but I saw one on Heavy Arm online store.
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Can try to ask and see what's the reply.

QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 21 2015, 01:07 PM)
I'm thinking going from Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1231 v3 to Skylake i7 6600 non K for long term upgrade

Any comment about this pair?

INTEL SKYLAKE CORE I7-6700 PROCESSOR (8M CACHE, UP 3.40) RM1319.00
AVEXIR CORE SERIES 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 2400MHZ (AVD4UZ124001608G-2COR) RM488.00
GIGABYTE GA-H170-D3H SOCKET 1151 MAINBOARD - RM488.00
This my old secification

AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 6-Core 2.8GHz Socket AM3
Asus M4A77D
Kingston HyperX 4GB x 2 DDR 1600mhz

Running apps : Adobe Photoshop and Sony Vegas
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Ok but you won't be able to utilize the speed of the RAM, it will be downclocked to 2133MHz due to chipset limitation.
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 21 2015, 01:32 PM)
Then i will change mobo to GIGABYTE GA-Z170-HD3 SOCKET 1151 MAINBOARD RM599 to full utlizie 2400mhz speed
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Upgrade the board to Z170 just to utilize the small increase of speed (+267MHz in your case) isn't really worth the money. Get at least 3000MHz, more worth in value and faster in video rendering if you really want to use RAM with speed > 2133MHz.

Of course you can overclock the 2400MHz RAM to 3000MHz but not recommended due to high temperature and voltage needed, you need to tweak the timings stuff to make it work too.
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 21 2015, 01:44 PM)
Its better 4GB x 2 DDR4 3000mhz or 8GB x 2 DDR4 2400mhz?

AVEXIR BLITZ 1.1 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 3000MHZ (AVD4UZ130001508G-2BZ1RR) - RM789

AVEXIR CORE SERIES 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 2400MHZ (AVD4UZ124001608G-2COR) - RM488

Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB (2x8GB) 2133Mhz DDR4 CL14 (HX421C14FBK2/16) - RM607.99
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For video rendering, I will go for more RAM instead, because some rendering software will use all available RAM and resources which make your PC become a turtle.

Are you sure the Avexir Core 2400MHz 2 x 8GB only RM 488 while Kingston 2133MHz 2 x 8GB is RM 608? If so then the Avexir Core is more worth laugh.gif

QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 21 2015, 01:46 PM)
Wonder why it's hard to find this model. Maybe it's been replace by the Extreme Core? Which one would you go for? biggrin.gif
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Probably the huge size made the sales not good then Zotac decided to discontinue/stop production, not really sure though.

I am using mATX case and clearance is a main issue for me, most likely will go for Extreme Core due to smaller size.
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QUOTE(Neomax3 @ Dec 21 2015, 02:29 PM)
Nothing much really other than its sleek and sexy design (just me). I can opt for other case really.
Anyway if minus the Jonsbo case what system can you recommend me? Really appreciate your feedback..
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Answer to your first question first, Possible to get high end gaming rig with this budget?

i5 + GTX970/R9 390 build is within your budget range, it depends on how you define high end, for 1080p, it can be considered as high end, but for 1440p/2160p, still pretty young for that.

You don't need water cooler since your budget can only fit a locked CPU (non-oc'able), save the money to get other hardware is a much wiser choice, but if you insist to get one, I won't stop you too laugh.gif

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 876
Gigabyte H170 Gaming 3 - RM 579
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 200
MSI GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Tiger - RM 1535
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 409

Total: RM 3828 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

* Case not included.



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QUOTE(ocm1984 @ Dec 21 2015, 03:26 PM)
Sifu,any comment for such build?
Is it possible to put the price lesser than 5k??
INTEL CORE I5 6500 (4 CORE/ 4 THREADS/3.6GHZ) 805 1 805
CRYORIG H7 (145MM) 189 1 189
GIGABYTE H170-GAMING 3 (DDR4/ATX/Crossfire/2xPCI-E/6 SATA3/Killer LAN/7 Phase Power) 559 1 559
GSKILL RipjawsV RED 2x8GB DDR4 2400mhz (CL15) 599 1 599
SAPPHIRE R9 390X Tri-X OC 8GB DDR5 512BIT (1055/6000) 1899 1 1899
Seasonic M12II-620 EVO (80+Bronze/ Full Modular)*5 Years Warranty 409 1 409
Sharkoon VG5-W (BLUE)(3x 12cm Blue LED Fans/2xUSB3.0)(NORMAL PRICE:RM199)-DEC PROMO 119 1 119
Samsung 750 EVO 120GB (540/520)-Promotion!NEW! 249 1 249
WD 2TB Caviar Blue 7200RPM/64MB 339 1 339
ASUS/Liteon/LG Internal 24X DVDRW 59 1 59
Total and GST Included 5226

(price from Ideal Tech)
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Remove the cooler, not necessary due to locked CPU.

Downgrade to 8GB RAM, you can also change to value RAM due to H170 mobo cannot utilize speed > 2133MHz.

Change that WD Blue 2TB to Seagate Barracuda 2TB for 7200RPM speed, the WD Blue model isn't 7200RPM, it is a typo from Idealtech side.
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QUOTE(ocm1984 @ Dec 21 2015, 03:42 PM)
Thanks Sifu。。。 notworthy.gif

Is it necessary to buy 16GB RAM as the AAA game titles recently consuming a lot of RAM...  shocking.gif
RAM speed 2133 MHz is decent for gaming?

Sorry ya coz I am really noob in buidling PC rig..
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8GB is still somehow enough, at least for those games without memory leak issue, if you play Batman: Arkham Knight or Just Cause 3, you can consider getting 16GB but if you have SSD and have the pagefile set to have at least 4GB then you are fine.

2133MHz is the base clock of DDR4 RAM, if it is not enough for gaming then I really cannot imagine DDR3's 1600MHz laugh.gif
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QUOTE(virusspreader @ Dec 22 2015, 12:22 AM)
Just gotten approval from family for the go-ahead to change PC, with an additional RM500 to spare.  rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

Was just wondering if there is any better suggestion than my post earlier on??  icon_rolleyes.gif
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If you want best price/performance,

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 809
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 399
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 200
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1399 (Christmas promotion)
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149
BenQ GW2255 - RM 390

Total: RM 3535 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

If you want to include SSD/better PSU/monitor, then

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 809
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 399
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 200
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ITX - RM 799 (Christmas promotion)
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 409
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149
AOC I2360SD IPS - RM 499

Total: RM 3493 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(MeeR @ Dec 22 2015, 08:52 AM)
Hi guys,

Need your advice/suggestion to buy a mini PC.

[Budget]RM1.5k

[Purpose]Internet/Youtube/High Res Movie NO games

[Hardwares that will be re-use]None

[Monitor resolution]32" and above

[Games & softwares that use frequently]High Res movie player

[Personal preferences]What is the minimum spec to play high res movie(Up to 4k). Is it necessary to get i3/i5 or Intel & Celeron can do the job? The PC will hook up to NAS therefore not required high volume storage.

[Location]KL

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Intel Core i3 4160 - RM 487
MSI H81I - RM 299
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 169
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 155
CM Elite 110 - RM 159

Total: RM 1484 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

For 4k video (30 FPS), I will go for i3 (min), but it still depends on the codec part/frame rate etc, if your 4k video is 60 FPS, then you better get an i5 for more headroom and smoother playback.

500GB and 1TB HDD price difference is very small (around RM20+/-), so it is advisable to get 1TB instead.

I am using Haswell build instead of Skylake because it is cheaper and more friendly towards your budget.
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 22 2015, 11:35 AM)
How's the FSP Raider compared to the FSP Hexa+?
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Slight better and it is 80+ Silver rated PSU.

QUOTE(craxors @ Dec 22 2015, 12:42 PM)
playing assassin creed syndicate...the ram pushed to 6gb++... 1600mhz...  sweat.gif
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Speed and capacity not related, even my 3200MHz also got pushed to nearly 7GB.

If you play Just Cause 3 then you will see your RAM usage is even closer to 8GB limit (if you are using 8GB RAM and pagefile will kick in).
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QUOTE(Rostudents1412 @ Dec 22 2015, 02:56 PM)
Greeting comrades..
First of all, i don't know whether i should post a new topic or just reply here.

i am planning to build my workstation / gamingstation / my zen garden / my soulmate.

Thus, i need some guidance / suggestion from all of you.

[Budget]
[Purpose]
this would be my workstation and gamestation . heavy duty . might continuously running on all the time. editing photo and stuff . some coding . and do some rendering video

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
some regular samsung monitor.
keyboard / and mouse
speaker.

[Monitor resolution]
21 inch

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Software that frequently used
Adobe Photoshop
Adobe Illustrator
Adobe After Effects
Adobe Dreamweaver
Adobe Lightroom

Games
Dota 2
Fifa & PES
Trending games (eg. fallout, skyrim, witcher. etc..)

[Personal preferences]

prefer Intel / NVidia

Not that I Dislike AMD / ATI
but always disappointing when comes to laptop .

[Location]
Fixed. (Home)

Currently posses N55SF laptop...  all the stuff are carried by this laptop.
very heavy breathing even after installing SSD.
Rendering 1 minutes video for about 2 hours. poor guy.
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QUOTE(MeeR @ Dec 22 2015, 05:37 PM)
Thanks Terence

Anyway if I buy Intel NUC with Intel Core i3 is it recommended and sufficient.
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