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Minecrafter	Nov 16 2015, 02:58 PM Return to original view \| Post #21
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(benblitz @ Nov 16 2015, 02:52 PM) Hi guys. Need your opinion on my entry gaming build, based on digitalfoundry suggestion from their i3-6100 video review. This RIG will be used mainly for CAD Software and gaming (Witcher 3, Dragon Age etc.) I'm aiming for 1080p, no insane dual monitor 4K gaming etc for now, in fact I'm going to use my 1440x900 monitor for now. Below are the parts that I'm going to go with with justification. NZXT S340 RM330 (Mainly for cosmetic purpose, also the space is sufficient in case I wanted to add some fans or watercooling my cpu) MSI Z170A GAMING PRO RM695 (I got this recommendation from digitalfoundry article, from what I read its better to opt for z170 for some future proofing with skylake build and in case I wanted to SLI or upgrade my CPU) Core i3-6100 RM500 (The performance are really good for entry gaming and when paired with 2666 speed RAM. also from digitalfoundry) NH-L9I L TYPE LP CPU COOLER RM185 (Stock fan are loud) KINGSTON D4 HYPER FURY 2666 (2x4GB) RM300 (For CAD software, I need the extra RAM and the 2666 is from digitalfoundry article as well) MSI GTX950 2GD5 OC RM801 (price performance ratio, also from articles, I'm open for alternative but would prefer nvidia) WD BLUE 1TB RM212 CM B500 500W 80PLUS POWER RM269 (This is where I think I could cut a little bit more, but I'm no expert, need input on this) Total: RM3292 If it matters, you can refer to here for the digitalfoundry reference article. Really appreciate your input. Thank you! That's one of the worst builds i've ever seen.. Go with this instead. Intel Core i5 6500 RM889 MSI B150M Bazooka D4 RM409 Zotac GTX970 Reference 4GB GDDR5 RM1399 Kingston Value RAM 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RM246 WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM225 FSP Hexa+ 550W RM189 Thermaltake Versa H25 RM139 Total:RM3496 Prices are from TechView. Dunno what's your budget, so for 3.5K, you can go for that. Around 3K, cut down GPU to Zotac GTX960 Single Fan 2GB GDDR5 RM819. This post has been edited by Minecrafter: Nov 16 2015, 02:59 PM
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Minecrafter	Nov 16 2015, 05:11 PM Return to original view \| Post #22
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(face @ Nov 16 2015, 05:04 PM) But the seller is saying about heat problems ? .. Would it be a problem to the rig ? Don't listen to the seller. He/she's trying to get more $$$ from your pocket.
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Minecrafter	Nov 21 2015, 06:39 PM Return to original view \| Post #23
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 21 2015, 05:32 PM) For some reason, i5-4460 is RM679 at Viewnet right now. It is cheap if you wanna spend extra for that. Worth the cash when comparing with newer i5 price. It's showing as RM779 for me, price list is the 16th november update. QUOTE(chikuera @ Nov 21 2015, 06:24 PM) How about this? Core i3-4150 -RM419 Asrock B85M-HDS motherboard - RM264 Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600 x1 - RM189 Leadtek GT730 2GB DDR3 -RM279 WD Blue 1TB hard disk - RM194 FSP Hexa+ 550W power supply - RM189 Thermaltake Versa H25 case -RM139 Total Rm1673 Again, I'm a noob in this kind of things..correct me if there is something wrong or not right That GPU is the weak point of the build. Don't expect to run The Witcher 3 on 1080p. Go with TristanX's or terence_nwb's suggestion. Parts these days are expensive due to GST & weakening of the currency. Before, an i5 + R9 270 below 2K was possible.
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Minecrafter	Nov 24 2015, 06:22 AM Return to original view \| Post #24
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(reil @ Nov 24 2015, 12:13 AM) Hi guys, I need your reccomendation for building my first pc [Budget] RM 5K [Purpose] Mainly for gaming (want to play new games at high setting), Video editing, photoshop [Hardwares that will be re-use] None [Games & softwares that use frequently] sony vegas, photoshop, adobe AE, new games (fallout4, AC Syndicate, Battlefield) [Personal preferences] intel i5, nvidia 970, if possible, can play new games with high setting within 3-4 years [Location] KL I've done some research, and I am currently interested in these: CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (RM 1059) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (RM 189) Motherboard: Asus Z170-K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (RM 657) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory (RM 599) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (RM 469) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (RM 319) Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (RM 1899) Case: Not Sure Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (RM 799) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer (RM 59) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) (RM 299) Monitor: Samsung S22C350H 21.5" Monitor (RM 399) Total : RM 6747 ...which is obviously out of budget So, 1. Do you have any suggestion to reduce the cost? Or better options? 2. Should I buy i5 6600K or 6600 only? Or other better cpu? and mobo. btw, I'm too lazy to OC 3. About the gpu, I'm torn between gtx970 and amd r9 390, which one performs better? Or other suggestion? 4. For psu, which one is better? Seasonic (above) or corsair AX 760W (rm667)? Or other suggestion? 5. Do I need m.2? what is it for? Is it really necessary? 6. Which case is awesome? Sorry for the questions \|\|\| Thanks!!! If you're not gonna OC, then no need to go with a unlocked i5 or i7. About the GPU, for a few games, NVidia GPUs have the advantage due to the ~~lame~~Gameworks. For your usage, going for NVidia is a better option. Are you sure the G550 costs RM799? Go for this. Intel Core i7 6700 RM1362 MSI B150M Bazooka D4 RM424 Zotac GTX970 Reference 4GB RM1425 Kingston Value RAM 1x8GB DDR4 2133MHz RM239 WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM219 Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB RM379 Seasonic M12II Evo 620W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM369 Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135 Windows 10 Home OEM 64Bit RM299 - Not sure where you get the price. Viewsonic VA2246 RM369 Total:RM5230 Prices of the CPU,MoBo and GPU are from Cycom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP, unless stated. Still overbudget, if you're fine going with Haswell: Intel Core i7 4790 RM1349 MSI B85M-E45 RM296 Zotac GTX970 Reference 4GB RM1425 Kingston Value RAM 1x8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM189 WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM219 Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB RM379 Seasonic M12II Evo 620W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM369 Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135 Windows 10 Home OEM 64Bit RM299 - Not sure where you get the price. Viewsonic VA2246 RM369 Total:RM5029 Price of the GPU is from Cycom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP, unless stated.
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Minecrafter	Dec 11 2015, 05:17 PM Return to original view \| Post #25
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(GamaX320 @ Dec 11 2015, 03:43 PM) lowyat build a desktop usually they take how much? Build as in assemble the rig for you? If you buy all the parts from the same shop, i'm pretty sure free of charge. If not, maybe will be charged.
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Minecrafter	Dec 11 2015, 05:24 PM Return to original view \| Post #26
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(GamaX320 @ Dec 11 2015, 05:20 PM) Ic, if I want buy all components from the same shop, any recommend shop on lowyat? You can try Viewnet, Cycom, Jayacom. The build suggestion stalkerz gave in your thread, the prices are from TechView. A few parts may not be available nor available at the same price, fyi.
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Minecrafter	Dec 13 2015, 09:31 AM Return to original view \| Post #27
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(silentxoblivion @ Dec 13 2015, 08:49 AM) Can recommend the cheapest 120GB & 240GB SSD and 8GB DDR4 RAM I can get? So far I found: Kingston RAM: 2x4GB - RM230 / 1x8GB - RM206 SSD: 120GB Samsung EVO RM300 I'd like to avoid the Kingston V300 as I read poor reviews about it's only slightly higher speed than HDDs. DDR4 RAM priced at RM206? Good deal. Go with 1 stick. Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB RM229(from TechView), i believe. You bought Skylake processor, right?
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Minecrafter	Dec 16 2015, 02:42 PM Return to original view \| Post #28
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(Blackdawn @ Dec 16 2015, 02:41 PM) can my R9 280x toxic fit into this mobo?? i think it needs 16 PCIE slot or smth.. Of course it can. Not 16 PCI-E slots lol, no motherboard has that many slots. It's the speed of the PCI-E slot. Every motherboard has at least 1 PCI-E 3.0/2.0 with x16 speed.
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Minecrafter	Dec 16 2015, 02:49 PM Return to original view \| Post #29
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(Blackdawn @ Dec 16 2015, 02:48 PM) u mean MSI B150M Bazooka D4 right? can this mobo fit into my cooler master HAF912 casing? currently my mobo and GPU can fit in here, not sure about this mobo. Yup, the casing supports ATX sized motherboards. So should fit.
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Minecrafter	Dec 16 2015, 05:11 PM Return to original view \| Post #30
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(jackchong890 @ Dec 16 2015, 05:09 PM) Hi , i just saw this people selling.... i not sure if the item is consider old or latest? do it worth it do buy in RM1200? Intel® Core™ i7-950 Processor (8M Cache, 3.06 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI) Rampage 3 Extreme Corsair 2GB DDR3 1333Mhz X 3 EVGA GTX 580 1.5GB Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 620w Storm Scout Case with DVDRW RM1200 Looks like a good deal to me. With 1.2K for a new rig, it performs worse than the build above.
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QUOTE(X_F@cT0R @ Dec 25 2015, 09:01 AM)

| Processor | Intel Core i7-6700 | RM1375 (Idealtech) |

Motherboard	ASUS B150M-A D3	RM402 (Jayacom)
RAM	Kingston Value Ram 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz	RM178 (Cycom)
Graphic Card	AMD Sapphire R9 390X Tri-X OC 8GB	RM1899 (Idealtech)
SSD	Samsung 850 Evo 120GB	RM309 (Jayacom)
HDD	WD Caviar Blue 1TB	RM204 (Cycom)
Power Supply	Seasonic M12II-620 EVO (80+Bronze)	RM409 (Idealtech)
Casing	NZXT Phantom 410	RM429 (Jayacom)
Monitor	AOC I2369VM IPS	RM639 (Jayacom)
Total		RM5844

It's best not to use DDR3 with Skylake CPUs.
http://www.lowyat.net/2015/76149/using-ddr...ory-controller/

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Minecrafter	Dec 25 2015, 11:14 AM Return to original view \| Post #32
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(NightFelix @ Dec 25 2015, 10:59 AM) terence_nwb Am I missing anything guys? I check Viewnet the Core i5-6400 3.10 speed - RM819. But Google said otherwise, it was at base clock 2.70 speed? Got 2 variant of i5-6400? 3.1GHz? I checked the specs on Intel's website, base frequency is 2.7GHz, max turbo frequency is 3.3GHz. Well, could just be trying to lure customers. Since some people think the higher the speed the better it is.
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Minecrafter	Dec 25 2015, 02:26 PM Return to original view \| Post #33
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(cipollll @ Dec 25 2015, 01:26 PM) Haish reading some of the builds here, all high end mid cost around 3k-ish. Compare back ago high end mid will cost around 2.5k-ish. Ringgit drop eh? Darn it Before GST + weakening of the ringgit, Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 + GTX970 was possible. But now, nope.
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Minecrafter	Dec 26 2015, 04:19 PM Return to original view \| Post #34
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 26 2015, 03:36 PM) Is it true that I have to buy a third party cooler if I buy the i7-6700k? And will the FSP Hexa+ 550w be sufficient for the i7-6700k + a GTX970? AFAIK, yup, you need to. It's enough, but if you're gonna OC the CPU, i'd suggest getting a better PSU like the Seasonic M12II Evo 620W RM409;
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Minecrafter	Dec 26 2015, 09:25 PM Return to original view \| Post #35
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 26 2015, 08:46 PM) I think my budget will be precisely Rm4k. Still wondering on which setup I should go for. Quite a lot of choices in my mind. Minus Rm1650 for the graphic card, I would have Rm2350 left for the processor, motherboard, power supply, and ram. Hmm Processor + motherboard already eat up most, if not all, of the RM2350
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Minecrafter	Dec 31 2015, 10:46 PM Return to original view \| Post #36
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Dec 31 2015, 10:39 PM) Power supply recommendation. Asking for a friend. Budget Rm500 Rig is i5 4th gen and gpu gtx970 motherboard b85 pro gamer Seasonic M12II Evo 620W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM409 More than enough.
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Minecrafter	Jan 15 2016, 02:43 PM Return to original view \| Post #37
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Jan 15 2016, 01:36 PM) What's the best bang for bucks graphic card around Rm500? Save bit more and get Powercolor R9 270 TurboDuo 2GB GDDR5 RM529 from TechView.
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Minecrafter	Jan 15 2016, 05:13 PM Return to original view \| Post #38
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Jan 15 2016, 03:23 PM) It's for my friend. Or should he aim for an older / used card? He can go for a used card if he don't mind it being 2nd hand. I'm not really familiar with the "2nd hand market" though. You'll have to search for it in garage sales. What's your friend's rig specs and usage?
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Minecrafter	Jan 16 2016, 01:34 PM Return to original view \| Post #39
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(HayateAyakasi8 @ Jan 16 2016, 01:04 PM) no.. i mean i asked a few sellers and they give different specs and this and that... so im a bit confused who to choose... Just go with one of terence_nwb's or TristanX's suggestions. Terence's build if you're overclocking, TristanX's build if you're not. Although i think the Haswell Xeons aren't in the market anymore.. PRICES ARE OUTDATED » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 16 2015, 12:14 AM) Intel Core i7 6700K - RM 1549 Asus Z170 Pro Gaming - RM 759 Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 239 MSI R9 390 8GB GDDR5 Gaming - RM 1559 Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229 WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215 Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 409 Corsair Hydro H55 - RM 269 Corsair Carbide Spec-01 - RM 240 BenQ GL2460 - RM 499 Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65 Total: RM 6032 (Techview price inclusive of GST) If mainly for gaming, no need to go for overclockable rig, spend the money on GPU and other parts better. QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 27 2015, 04:30 PM) How about these? Xeon E3-1231 V3 - RM1149 Coolermaster Hyper 212X - RM189 Gigabyte H97-HD3 motherboard - RM489 Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600 x2 - RM358 Leadtek GTX980 4GB DDR5 - RM2379 Transcend 370 128GB SSD - RM199 WD Blue 1TB hard disk - RM219 Seasonic M12 II 620W power supply - RM369 Corsair Spec 01/02/03 case - RM299(estimated) Dell S2340L 23" monitor (glossy) - RM699 Logitech MK100 mouse and keyboard combo - RM49 Edifier M1335 2.1 speakers - RM137 RM6545 total (Viewnet prices) This post has been edited by Minecrafter: Jan 16 2016, 01:35 PM
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Minecrafter	Jan 28 2016, 10:23 PM Return to original view \| Post #40
ROCK N ROLL STAR Senior Member 5,043 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Putrajaya	QUOTE(msafwan1773 @ Jan 28 2016, 05:13 PM) Still following and reading this thread, I notice whenerver someone asking for a spec suggestion..it will always intel as a processor.. May I know why ? is it Amd is not good enough or not worth for money ? Thanks... The performance isn't good. Though some people go with AMD, probably because of the performance difference and how much it cost. If AMD's next architecture, Zen, is gonna deliver, competition will heat up!
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