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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V10!

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Ronin_Amin
post Oct 9 2015, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(acromax @ Oct 7 2015, 06:23 PM)
Thank you so much! Btw, is it better to use i5 4690 with extra rm60? Will performance improve a lot? Also, is it better use better psu with extra rm40? Corsair VS650W Modules Power Supply. Are there any better monitor 24" inches with similar price?
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I thought the corsair vs series is a tier 4 psu? Is it really recommended to use?

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post Oct 9 2015, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Ronin_Amin @ Oct 9 2015, 01:13 PM)
I thought the corsair vs series is a tier 4 psu? Is it really recommended to use?
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post Oct 9 2015, 07:13 PM

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is this spec good enough in the range of 3k?

i5 4590 775
Asrock Pro 4 H97 329
GTX 960 MSI 779
D3 Kingston 8gb 179
Cosair CX600m Series 295
Thermaltake H24 140
WD 1TB 205
Windows 10 390
3092
(GST excluded , price from JAYACOM)
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post Oct 9 2015, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(lityantham @ Oct 9 2015, 07:13 PM)
is this spec good enough in the range of 3k?

i5 4590 775
Asrock Pro 4 H97 329
GTX 960 MSI 779
D3 Kingston 8gb 179
Cosair CX600m Series 295
Thermaltake H24 140
WD 1TB 205
Windows 10 390
3092
(GST excluded , price from JAYACOM)
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With GST included,already over 3K. tongue.gif

How about this?

Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM769
MSI B85M-E45 RM296
Zotac GTX960 Single Fan 2GB GDDR5 RM739
Kingston Value RAM 1x8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM199
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM219
Seasonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze RM299
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
Windows 8.1 64Bit OEM RM349
Total:RM3005
Prices of the MoBo and GPU are from Cycom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP.

You can upgrade to Windows 10 if you're on Windows 7 or 8.1.But remember,if you want to upgrade to Windows 10,be sure to upgrade before late July,cause by then,it'll be 1 year after Windows 10 was released,so no more free upgrades to Windows 10 for 7 and 8.1 users. wink.gif
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post Oct 9 2015, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(lityantham @ Oct 9 2015, 07:13 PM)
is this spec good enough in the range of 3k?

i5 4590 775
Asrock Pro 4 H97 329
GTX 960 MSI 779
D3 Kingston 8gb 179
Cosair CX600m Series 295
Thermaltake H24 140
WD 1TB 205
Windows 10 390
3092
(GST excluded , price from JAYACOM)
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Jayacom doesn't carry Seasonic PSU so you have to settle with that overpriced Corsair PSU with low grade internal components at the same price point.

Here is another build with Skylake (6th gen).

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
ASRock B150M-HDV - RM 365
GSKill NT 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference OC - RM 899
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Thermaltake Versa H24 - RM 169
Windows 10 Home OEM - RM 299

Total: RM 3284 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)
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post Oct 9 2015, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 9 2015, 07:51 PM)
Jayacom doesn't carry Seasonic PSU so you have to settle with that overpriced Corsair PSU with low grade internal components at the same price point.

Here is another build with Skylake (6th gen).

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
ASRock B150M-HDV - RM 365
GSKill NT 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference OC - RM 899
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Thermaltake Versa H24 - RM 169
Windows 10 Home OEM - RM 299

Total: RM 3284 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)
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Hmm will consider this specs, but isnt that Corsair PSU plus Bronze as well? dont know how to differentiate it.
thanks!

QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Oct 9 2015, 07:47 PM)
With GST included,already over 3K. tongue.gif

How about this?

Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM769
MSI B85M-E45 RM296
Zotac GTX960 Single Fan 2GB GDDR5 RM739
Kingston Value RAM 1x8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM199
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM219
Seasonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze RM299
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
Windows 8.1 64Bit OEM RM349
Total:RM3005
Prices of the MoBo and GPU are from Cycom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP.

You can upgrade to Windows 10 if you're on Windows 7 or 8.1.But remember,if you want to upgrade to Windows 10,be sure to upgrade before late July,cause by then,it'll be 1 year after Windows 10 was released,so no more free upgrades to Windows 10 for 7 and 8.1 users. wink.gif
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I'll try to get the windows 7/8.1 if its cheaper, thanks for the advice! smile.gif
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post Oct 9 2015, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(lityantham @ Oct 9 2015, 08:10 PM)
Hmm will consider this specs, but isnt that Corsair PSU plus Bronze as well? dont know how to differentiate it.
thanks!
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You cannot justify the quality of PSU by just looking at the 80+ rating, the rating is just the efficiency of the PSU, you need to look for the components inside the PSU, that's the main concern when we talk about the quality of PSU.

You can look for the PSU thread pinned in this section, plenty of useful information posted there for your reading thumbup.gif
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post Oct 10 2015, 08:23 AM

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upgrading my ancient setup, to Skylake.. cheapest skylake setup

need a recommendation for

mobo
proc
ram

currently on amd 965 liao.. have the urge to go back to intel, ...

proc i guess only a few around right hmm.gif

the mobo part is confusing for me... and the ram im gonna need ddr4 right?

Why straight to skylake? I rarely upgrade so since im upgrading might as well go for the latest , if you can make an argument not to kindly share notworthy.gif

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post Oct 10 2015, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(nestlebliss @ Oct 10 2015, 08:23 AM)
upgrading my ancient setup, to Skylake.. cheapest skylake setup

need a recommendation for

mobo
proc
ram

currently on amd 965 liao.. have the urge to go back to intel, ...

proc i guess only a few around right  hmm.gif

the mobo part is confusing for me... and the ram im gonna need ddr4 right?

Why straight to skylake? I rarely upgrade so since im upgrading might as well go for the latest , if you can make an argument not to kindly share  notworthy.gif
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Budget and usage first?

What's the form factor of your casing?ATX?

This post has been edited by Minecrafter: Oct 10 2015, 09:15 AM
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post Oct 10 2015, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Oct 10 2015, 09:15 AM)
Budget and usage first?

What's the form factor of your casing?ATX?
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Budget is lowest for skylake...

I have 2k rm but would like to go as low as possible...


Atx @ matx

Usage moderate gaming at 1080p

This post has been edited by nestlebliss: Oct 10 2015, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(nestlebliss @ Oct 10 2015, 09:21 AM)
Budget is lowest for skylake... 

I have 2k rm but would like to go as low as possible...
Atx @ matx

Usage moderate gaming at 1080p
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Intel Core i5 6500 RM885
Asrock B150M-HDV D4 RM365
GSkill NT Series 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RM249
Total:RM1499
Prices are from IdealTech.

If you want to max out your budget,Intel Core i7 6700 is priced at RM1365.
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Oct 10 2015, 09:25 AM)
Intel Core i5 6500 RM885
Asrock B150M-HDV D4 RM365
GSkill NT Series 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RM249
Total:RM1499
Prices are from IdealTech.

If you want to max out your budget,Intel Core i7 6700 is priced at RM1365.
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Thanks bro...appreciate it
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I been surveying laptop. Found lenovo y70 (i7.gtx960m 4gb, ram16gb ddr3)

But now wonder. Can i get somewhat same performance but at lower price if i go for desktop?

Hope sifu here can help. Thanks

[Budget]

less than 4k la. Cuz the laptop is 4k.lower better la lol

[Purpose]

web surfing. Game.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

already have monitor. keyboard and mouse.

[Monitor resolution]

lupa la. Old samsung monitor. 720p kot sweat.gif

Might buy new hd monitor later

[Games & softwares that use frequently]

fifa. Sims 4.dragon age. Firefox lol

[Personal preferences]

Maybe 2 storage. 1 small ssd for windows. 1tb hdd for storage

Need Bluetooth. To connect to my Bluetooth speaker

Others dont mind. Just wanna see how low can i go. To get same performance as the lenovo y70

[Location]

kl

Thank you very much

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post Oct 10 2015, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Oct 10 2015, 06:14 PM)
I been surveying laptop. Found lenovo y70 (i7.gtx960m 4gb, ram16gb ddr3)

But now wonder. Can i get somewhat same performance but at lower price if i go for desktop?

Hope sifu here can help. Thanks

[Budget]

less than 4k la. Cuz the laptop is 4k.lower better la lol

[Purpose]

web surfing. Game.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

already have monitor.  keyboard and mouse.

[Monitor resolution]

lupa la. Old samsung monitor. 720p kot sweat.gif

Might buy new hd monitor later

[Games & softwares that use frequently]

fifa. Sims 4.dragon age. Firefox lol

[Personal preferences]

Maybe 2 storage. 1 small ssd for windows. 1tb hdd for storage

Need Bluetooth. To connect to my Bluetooth speaker

Others dont mind. Just wanna see how low can i go. To get same performance as the lenovo y70

[Location]

kl

Thank you very much
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Desktop build always has better performance at the similar price tag of laptop.

GTX960M is similar to desktop version of GTX750Ti or slightly better (GTX760). With 4k budget, you can definitely get something nearly 3 times better than GTX960M, e.g. GTX970/R9 390.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
ASRock H170M-ITX/ac - RM 599
GSKill NT 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1399
Samsung 650 Series 120GB SSD - RM 219
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
CM Elite 130 - RM 199

Total: RM 3968 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

This is a small form factor (SFF) rig with WiFi/Bluetooth adapter included. You can go for standard ATX build at slightly cheaper cost but you have to buy WiFi/Bluetooth adapter externally.
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post Oct 10 2015, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 10 2015, 08:32 PM)
Desktop build always has better performance at the similar price tag of laptop.

GTX960M is similar to desktop version of GTX750Ti or slightly better (GTX760). With 4k budget, you can definitely get something nearly 3 times better than GTX960M, e.g. GTX970/R9 390.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
ASRock H170M-ITX/ac - RM 599
GSKill NT 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1399
Samsung 650 Series 120GB SSD - RM 219
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
CM Elite 130 - RM 199

Total: RM 3968 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

This is a small form factor (SFF) rig with WiFi/Bluetooth adapter included. You can go for standard ATX build at slightly cheaper cost but you have to buy WiFi/Bluetooth adapter externally.
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Thank you very much

Looks like the answer to my question "desktop cheaper than laptop?"

Is "damn right" lol. So much cheaper

1 last thing. In your opinion. If i dont really mind medium setting on games,

Should i switch to lower graphic card like 760 or 960

and use i7 instead of i5(better processor) ?

Would it benefit me more?
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Oct 10 2015, 09:09 PM)
Thank you very much

Looks like the answer to my question "desktop cheaper than laptop?"

Is "damn right"  lol. So much cheaper

1 last thing. In your opinion. If i dont really mind medium setting on games,

Should  i switch to lower graphic card like 760 or 960

and use i7 instead of i5(better processor) ?

Would it benefit me more?
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Desktop CPU and laptop CPU is also same case as GPU, some mobile version of i7 CPUs are similar to desktop version of i5 CPUs, 4 core 4 threads, some are 4 cores 8 threads (HQ version), so you cannot compare them directly especially those "U" version CPU on laptop.

i5 6500 is just slightly weaker than i7 4710HQ, if you want i7 6700, you have to top up nearly RM 500 which is not really worth the money unless your purpose is rendering/heavy CPU dependent software, else i5 is enough for now.

If you are more on gaming, i5 + GTX970 is better than i7 + GTX960. In most of the modern games now, you will get nearly similar performance in terms of FPS with i5 + GTX970 and i7 + GTX970 (mostly i7 will have ~ 5 FPS advantage), some games don't even show any improvement at all on i7. But if you go for GTX960, the FPS difference will be huge compared with GTX970 (nearly half).

So in conclusion, get a better GPU and stay with i5 is a better pick for now.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 10 2015, 10:29 PM)
Desktop CPU and laptop CPU is also same case as GPU, some mobile version of i7 CPUs are similar to desktop version of i5 CPUs, 4 core 4 threads, some are 4 cores 8 threads (HQ version), so you cannot compare them directly especially those "U" version CPU on laptop.

i5 6500 is just slightly weaker than i7 4710HQ, if you want i7 6700, you have to top up nearly RM 500 which is not really worth the money unless your purpose is rendering/heavy CPU dependent software, else i5 is enough for now.

If you are more on gaming, i5 + GTX970 is better than i7 + GTX960. In most of the modern games now, you will get nearly similar performance in terms of FPS with i5 + GTX970 and i7 + GTX970 (mostly i7 will have ~ 5 FPS advantage), some games don't even show any improvement at all on i7. But if you go for GTX960, the FPS difference will be huge compared with GTX970 (nearly half).

So in conclusion, get a better GPU and stay with i5 is a better pick for now.
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wow.really good explanation.now i clearly understand

thank you ya.really appreciate it.thanks alot
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post Oct 11 2015, 11:32 AM

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[Budget] : RM3000 (MAX RM3500)

[Purpose] : GAMING

[Hardwares that will be re-use] : PSU[Corsair GS600] , Monitor , Mouse keyboard ,

[Monitor resolution] : 1080


[Personal preferences] : possible go for skylake?

I will be grateful for any help you can provide.smile.gif thanks

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QUOTE(wulimaza @ Oct 11 2015, 11:32 AM)
[Budget] : RM3000 (MAX RM3500)

[Purpose] : GAMING

[Hardwares that will be re-use] : PSU[Corsair GS600] , Monitor , Mouse keyboard ,

[Monitor resolution] : 1080
[Personal preferences] : possible go for skylake?

I will be grateful for any help you can provide.smile.gif thanks
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 899
MSI B150M Bazooka - RM 399
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 289
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1399
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 3350 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 11 2015, 12:38 PM)
Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 899
MSI B150M Bazooka - RM 399
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 289
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1399
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 3350 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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thank you Terence smile.gif

one more question
is my PSU ok for this rig? or should I change it? because my PSU is almost 4 years old

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