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SPM Students Discussion Thread V3, New Thread: End of an Era!!
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~~5ive~~
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Nov 30 2006, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 30 2006, 09:47 PM) if u write leburan natrium klorida then no prob, if larutan then habis. Many ppl kena tricked by the question, or didnt read question carefully. About moral still nobody reply me le, i am asking is that u get mark if u got separate the definisi? Or must specific how to separate? I owes separate at the kata hubung there. but isnt 10 marks too much for a pic?
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~~5ive~~
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Nov 30 2006, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(DenDen @ Nov 30 2006, 10:27 PM) can state the exact kata kunci????i not quite sure!!hehe  ya...it will be nice if can break it.... i try break a few then....
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~~5ive~~
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Nov 30 2006, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Nov 30 2006, 10:51 PM) i never got a B for moral before but tomorow i scared no A cause i heard many students who always get A for moral in school suddenly never get A for SPM..  really? Hope graph wont be too high..
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~~5ive~~
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Nov 30 2006, 11:04 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Bab 1 1. nilai kepercayaan kepada Tuhan -keyakinan wujudnya Tuhan sebagai pencipta alam -mematuhi segala suruhan-Nya berlandaskan pegangan agama masing-masing selaras dengan prinsip rukun Negara.
2.amanah -sikap tanggungjawab yang boleh menimbulkan kepercayaan -sikap tanggungjawab yang boleh menimbulkan keyakinan orang lain
3.harga diri -keupayaan dan keyakinan diri agar mampu memulia -menjaga maruah diri dalam kehidupan
4.nilai bertanggungjawab -kesanggupan diri seseorang untuk memikul tugas -melaksanakan tugas serta kewajipan dengan sempurna
5.hemah tinggi -beradab sopan -berbudi pekerti mulia dalam pergaulan seharian
6.Toleransi -Kesanggupan bertolak ansur , sabar dan mengawal diri -mengelakkan berlakunya pertelingkahan dan perselisihan faham demi kesejahteraan hudup.
7.berdikari -kebolehan melakukan sesuatu -kesanggupan melakukan sesuatu tanpa bergantung pada orang lain.
8. kerajinan -usaha yang berterusan -penuh dengan semangat ketekunan, kecekalan ,kegigihan ,dedikasi dan berdaya maju dalam melakukan sesuatu perkara.
9. kasih sayang -kepekaan dan perasaan cinta yang mendalam serta berkekalan -lahir daripada hati yang iklas
10. keadilan -tindakan dan keputusan yang saksama -tidak berat sebelah.
11.rasional -boleh berfikir berlandaskan alasan dan bukti yang nyata -dapat mengambil tindakan berasaskan pertimbangan yang wajar
12.nilai keserderhanaan -sikap tidak keterlaluan dalam membuat pertimbangan dan tindakan sama ada dalam pemikiran,pertuturan dan perlakuan -tanpa mengabaikan kepentingan diri dan orang lain.
Bab2 1.nilai kasih sayang terhadap keluarga -perasaan cinta, kasih dan sayang yg mendalam terhadap keluarga. -perasaan cinta, kasih dan sayang yg berkekalan terhadap keluarga
2.nilai hormat dan taat kepada anggota keluarga -memuliakan setiap anggota keluarga dgn berinteraksi -memberi layanan secara bersopan utk mewujudkan keluarga yg harmoni
3.nilai mengekalkan tradisi kekeluargaan -menerima, menghormati sesuatu kebiasaan keluarga -mengamalkan adat dan kepercayaan yang diwarisi secara turun-menurun dlm keluarga
4.tanggungjawab terhadap keluarga -kewajipan yg harus dilaksanakan olen setiap individu terhadap keluarga -melahirkan keluarga yang bahagia, meningkatkan imej dan menjaga maruah keluarga.
Bab3 1.nilai menyanyangi dan menghargai alam sekitar -kesedaran tentang perlunya memelihara dan memulihara alam sekeliling -mengekalkan keseimbangan ekosistem
2.nilai keharmonian antara manisia dengan alam sekitar -keadaan saling memerlukan hubungan yang harmonis antara manusia dgn alam sekeliling -kualiti kehidupan manusia dan alam sekeliling terpelihara
3.nilai kemapanan alam sekitar -pengekalan keseimbangan alam sekeliling sebagai tanggungjawab bersama -kesejahteraan hidup
4.nilai peka terhadap isu-isu alam sekitar -prihatin terhadap persoalan yang berkaitan dgn alam sekeliling -berusaha menyelesaikannya
bab4 1.nilai cinta akan Negara -perasaan cinta dan bangga kepada Negara -meletakkan kepentingan Negara melebihi kepentingan diri
2.nilai taat setia kepada raja dan Negara -kepatuhan dan kesetiaan yang berkekalan kepada raja -kepatuhan dan kesetiaan yang berkekalan kepada Negara
3.nilai sanggup berkorban untuk Negara -kerelaan melakukan sesuatu sebagai tanda kebaktian utk Negara -kerelaan menyerahkan sesuatu termasuk nyawa sebagai tanda kebaktian utk Negara
bab5 1.nilai melindungi hak kanak-kanak -membela, memberi naungan dan memelihara hak kanak-kanak -menjamin kehidupan mereka yg sempurna
2.nilai menghormati hak wanita -melindungi dan mengiktiraf wanita -wanita ialah individu yang boleh memberi sumbangan dlm pembangunan keluarga, masyarakat dan Negara
3.nilai melindungi hak pekerja -menghormati, menghargai perkhidmatan, jasa golongan pekerja -mengiktiraf sumbangan golongan pekerja dlm pembangunan Negara
4.nilai menghormati hak golongan kurang berupaya -memberi layanan yang bersopan kpd golongan kurang berupaya supaya tidak berasa tersisih -mengiktiraf mereka sebagai insan ciptaan Tuhan
5.nilai melindungi hak pengguna -membela dan memelihara hak individu utk menjadi pengguna yg berilmu , -mendapat perkhidmatan serta barangan yg berkualiti -tidak mudah dieksploitasi.
Bab6
1.nilai mematuhi peraturan dan undang-undang -menerima dan mematuhi peraturan dan undang undang yg telah ditentukan -tanpa mengira sesiapa dan di mana seseorang itu berada
2 nilai kebebasan bersuara -kebebasan berucap dan mengeluarkan fikiran dgn batasan tertentu -bagi menjaga keselamatan dan ketenteraman
3. nilai kebebasan beragama -kebebasan setiap individu untuk menganuti agamanya seperti yg diperuntukkan dlm perlenbagaan Malaysia -kebebasan setiap individu untuk mengamalkan agamanya seperti yg diperuntukkan dlm perlenbagaan Malaysia
4.nilai penglibatan diri dalam pembangunan Negara -kebebasan utk melibatkan diri dlm pelbagai aktiviti pembangunan Negara -mematuhi peraturan, undang-undang dan perlembagaan Malaysia
5.nilai sikap keterbukaan -bersedia memberi pandangan, pembaharuan dan kritikan selaras dgn kebenaran fakta dan norma masyarakat Malaysia -bersedia menerima pandangan, pembaharuan dan kritikan selaras dgn kebenaran fakta dan norma masyarakat Malaysia
bab7 1.nilai hidup bersama secara aman -hidup berbaik-baik antara satu sama lain dgn mengutamakan kedamaian dan keharmonian hidup -tanpa mengira agama,bangsa dan budaya
2.nilai saling membantu dan bekerjasama -usaha yang baik dan membina yang dilakukan bersama -pada peringkat individu komuniti atau Negara utk mencapai sesuatu matlamat
3 nilai saling menghormati antara Negara -menghargai dan memuliakan hubungan antara Negara -menjamin kesejahteraan sejagat
Well, this is my break up...Any comment?
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~~5ive~~
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Nov 30 2006, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(xjuen @ Nov 30 2006, 11:04 PM) that's true.those that are gunning for scholarships have to collect a lot of As.ideally A1s.our education system very paper chase.haha. yaya....then straight As important too.... a 10A1 1A2 will lose to a 10A1 a 12A1 1B3 will lose to a 12A1
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~~5ive~~
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Nov 30 2006, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(Loongy22 @ Nov 30 2006, 11:07 PM) Even if you dont apply for the scholarships, most colleges will just give you a waiver straight depending on how many A's or A1's you get. You don't even need to go for an interview, just get the results and you get your $$$ off. how bout A1 and A2 then?
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~~5ive~~
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Nov 30 2006, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Nov 30 2006, 11:08 PM) yup..thts walmost like wht i do..but for the nilai like hemah tinggi i think should be beradab sopan dalam pergaulan seharian and berbudi pekerti mulia dalam pergaulan seharian..get the pergaulan seharian in both and do the same for the other nilais as well Ok....how bout the a few last 1? the negara thing....i felt quite hard to break them...
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~~5ive~~
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Nov 30 2006, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(Loongy22 @ Nov 30 2006, 11:19 PM) Slightly Off topic(stupid broken smilies) Just some inspiration to study harder. Taylor's College in 2005 award the Merit award as follows: Full scholarships were awarded to 47 students who scored 11 A1s and above, scholarships worth RM7,000 to 81 students who obtained 10 A1s, RM6,000 for 97 students with 9A1s, RM3,000 for 37 students with 11As to 15As, RM2000 for 270 students with 8A1s, 9As or 10As, and RM1,000 for 135 students with 7A1s and 8As. y taylor only? btw, full scholarship mean how much?
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~~5ive~~
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Dec 1 2006, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(elaineliew88 @ Nov 30 2006, 11:53 PM) good luck for all whom take moral 2moro....becareful n read careful when answer as moral is one of da hard subj 2 score A oso....most of my frenz last year score A in trial but get B3 in spm...even my senior in previous year oso 10x....will be careful
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~~5ive~~
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Dec 1 2006, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(joe_89 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:55 PM) oh my goodness! are you sure it's WRONG? For my whole life - 2 years - NONE of my moral teachers taught me that! gee... if that's the case then i should get a C cuz i patut for harus and the other way round for all the question. Yea, i never heard of that too.... guess i will have ) for both essay then...... QUOTE(Canopies @ Dec 1 2006, 01:02 PM) where u guys going for ur class trip? Im going to pangkor after spm..what about u guys? hey, comon, cant chat other than education thing here. Beware.
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~~5ive~~
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Dec 1 2006, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(^mtv^ @ Dec 1 2006, 01:23 PM) omg...i fogot to tekan n the patut n harus thing,...my teacher did mention bout it but i forgot!!!! man,i'm so scared..i muz get an A2,if not A1...  patut,harus...what have i done  Is it? My teacher never say that. Sigh. Imagine 20 marks were gone...
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~~5ive~~
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Dec 1 2006, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(Criptonox89 @ Dec 1 2006, 01:32 PM) Exactly....otherwise your teacher won't force you all to pass up in time....my school teacher mention who haven't pass up the folio during assembly....and those unlucky one will stand in front of 1.5k student.... it does contribute for grade? I thought they will out 1 cert for this. I used to help my teacher do this work...
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~~5ive~~
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Dec 1 2006, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Dec 1 2006, 01:37 PM) so in the end, is it ok ?? what do u mean?
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~~5ive~~
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Dec 1 2006, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(Glassy @ Dec 1 2006, 01:52 PM) Ouch, no practice writing Moral essays at all? Bad game. Anyway, whether you use "perlu" or "patut" or "seharusnya" or "sepatutnya", it matters. Goodness knows what I was thinking, I wasn't paying much attention on them. I believe if the examiners of the paper find it wrong, they'll just disregard the entire sentence completely. No marks for that sentence. How can kesederhanaan relate to Skim Cepat Kaya? >_< Bersikap tidak keterlaluan? Tanpa mengabaikan kepentingan diri dan orang lain? I did Rasional, Berdikari and Mematuhi Peraturan dan Undang-Undang for that. I think Mematuhi Peraturan dan Undang-Undang should be acceptable, because Skim Cepat Kaya is against the law, no? So anything to do with the skim would be against the law. harus and patut play the main role? I tot it supposed to be the nilai.
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~~5ive~~
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Dec 1 2006, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(Glassy @ Dec 1 2006, 02:01 PM) It doesn't play a main role, it's one of those minor things which we rarely pay attention to but has the potential to screw us up really badly. indiagnoziz, they will read and take into account up till your 3rd nilai, if the question asks for 2 nilai. If the question asks for 3, they'll read up till your 4th one. This applies for structure as well, they will read any ONE extra answer which you include, in addition to the answers you've already given. mayb scheme change this year, since we really have a lot of changes. Btw, if the patut and harus really important, then i screwed it.
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~~5ive~~
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Dec 1 2006, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(julnoel @ Dec 1 2006, 02:03 PM) i dont believe the examiners are that evil. not everyone was taught that the words mattered, at least i wasnt taught that. if they are going to mark you wrong because of that sort of error, they should just name the paper Bahasa Melayu instead. They would mark us on our values and the ideas given, not the stupid language. well, they are not evil but they have to obey the rules. rules is still rules.
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~~5ive~~
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Dec 1 2006, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(jason18689 @ Dec 1 2006, 02:06 PM) we`re ? what do u mean by that ? aiyohhh....u all when go book the trip 1 ? cuz me and my friends oso going there... but my friend la...tupid la..go book last week no place ad now.... we oso intend to go at 6,7,8 leh..... how much ? Well, plz dun off topic. QUOTE(Glassy @ Dec 1 2006, 02:08 PM) For the sake of my own grade, I sincerely hope that you are correct. If it makes all of you [and myself for that matter] feel any better, I took private tuition from a VERY experienced Moral teacher for a few months, and he didn't mention a thing about it. I figured if it was important, he'd probably have mentioned it. Kesederhanaan, hmm? Well, I guess I do see the reasoning behind it. The second reason is a bit too shaky for my liking though. Regardless, to his each own. well, if like that, without scheme, i believe most of the value can be accepted. then wat is the purpose? the purpose if let us follow the scheme. it is the style of malaysia education system. of coz, i dun like this too. Im wrong too. But fact is still the fact, it is untwistable.
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~~5ive~~
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Dec 1 2006, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(lightbringer @ Dec 1 2006, 02:20 PM) didn't moral taught them KEADILAN?? isn't it unfair to give us 0 marks juz becuz one word is wrong?? fact is still the fact. Face the music. No fairness, do u think spm fair? Of coz not, so y did u mention but fair again? Fair is juz a dream.
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~~5ive~~
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Dec 1 2006, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(julnoel @ Dec 1 2006, 02:23 PM) Out of say 100000 students, say 99000 get 40 and below. They have to pull it down  somehow.. someone once told me the government wants to save face also, and wont purposely fail us. Imagine, 99000 students fail moral. a bit ~_~ yea, this is another matter. The A1 is another matter again.
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~~5ive~~
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Dec 1 2006, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 1 2006, 02:32 PM) who told u A1 is 90-100?  if like that, I must be a genius during my time because I scored A1  as Glassy said, it's >75 to get A1. yeah, impossible 90 around 70-80 will do...>85 confirm A1....Haha
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