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 SPM Students Discussion Thread V3, New Thread: End of an Era!!

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post Nov 30 2006, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 30 2006, 09:47 PM)
if u write leburan natrium klorida then no prob, if larutan then habis. Many ppl kena tricked by the question, or didnt read question carefully. About moral still nobody reply me le, i am asking is that u get mark if u got separate the definisi? Or must specific how to separate? I owes separate at the kata hubung there.
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but isnt 10 marks too much for a pic?
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post Nov 30 2006, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(DenDen @ Nov 30 2006, 10:27 PM)
can state the exact kata kunci????i not quite sure!!hehe blink.gif
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ya...it will be nice if can break it....
i try break a few then.... laugh.gif
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post Nov 30 2006, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Aztec @ Nov 30 2006, 10:51 PM)
i never got a B for moral before but tomorow i scared no A cause i heard many students who always get A for moral in school suddenly never get A for SPM.. sweat.gif
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really?
Hope graph wont be too high..
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post Nov 30 2006, 11:04 PM

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Well, this is my break up...Any comment?
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post Nov 30 2006, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(xjuen @ Nov 30 2006, 11:04 PM)
that's true.those that are gunning for scholarships have to collect a lot of As.ideally A1s.our education system very paper chase.haha.
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yaya....then straight As important too....
a 10A1 1A2 will lose to a 10A1
a 12A1 1B3 will lose to a 12A1
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QUOTE(Loongy22 @ Nov 30 2006, 11:07 PM)
Even if you dont apply for the scholarships, most colleges will just give you a waiver straight depending on how many A's or A1's you get. You don't even need to go for an interview, just get the results and you get your $$$ off.
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how bout A1 and A2 then?
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post Nov 30 2006, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(Aztec @ Nov 30 2006, 11:08 PM)
yup..thts walmost like wht i do..but for the nilai like hemah tinggi i think should be beradab sopan dalam pergaulan seharian and berbudi pekerti mulia dalam pergaulan seharian..get the pergaulan seharian in both and do the same for the other nilais as well
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Ok....how bout the a few last 1?
the negara thing....i felt quite hard to break them...
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QUOTE(Loongy22 @ Nov 30 2006, 11:19 PM)
Slightly  Off topic(stupid broken smilies)
Just some inspiration to study harder.

Taylor's College in 2005 award the Merit award as follows:

Full scholarships were awarded to 47 students who scored 11 A1s and above,
scholarships worth RM7,000 to 81 students who obtained 10 A1s,
RM6,000 for 97 students with 9A1s,
RM3,000 for 37 students with 11As to 15As,
RM2000 for 270 students with 8A1s, 9As or 10As,
and RM1,000 for 135 students with 7A1s and 8As.
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y taylor only?
btw, full scholarship mean how much?
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QUOTE(elaineliew88 @ Nov 30 2006, 11:53 PM)
good luck for all whom take moral 2moro....becareful n read careful when answer as moral is one of da hard subj 2 score A oso....most of my frenz last year score A in trial but get B3 in spm...even my senior in previous year oso
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10x....will be careful
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QUOTE(joe_89 @ Dec 1 2006, 12:55 PM)
oh my goodness! are you sure it's WRONG? For my whole life - 2 years - NONE of my moral teachers taught me that! gee... if that's the case then i should get a C cuz i patut for harus and the other way round for all the question.
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Yea, i never heard of that too....
guess i will have ) for both essay then......

QUOTE(Canopies @ Dec 1 2006, 01:02 PM)
where u guys going for ur class trip?

Im going to pangkor after spm..what about u guys?
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hey, comon, cant chat other than education thing here. Beware.
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QUOTE(^mtv^ @ Dec 1 2006, 01:23 PM)
omg...i fogot to tekan n the patut n harus thing,...my teacher did mention bout it but i forgot!!!! man,i'm so scared..i muz get an A2,if not A1...  shakehead.gif patut,harus...what have i done doh.gif
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Is it? My teacher never say that. Sigh. Imagine 20 marks were gone...
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QUOTE(Criptonox89 @ Dec 1 2006, 01:32 PM)
Exactly....otherwise your teacher won't force you all to pass up in time....my school teacher mention who haven't pass up the folio during assembly....and those unlucky one will stand in front of 1.5k student....
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it does contribute for grade?
I thought they will out 1 cert for this. I used to help my teacher do this work...
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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Dec 1 2006, 01:37 PM)
so in the end, is it ok ??
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what do u mean?
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QUOTE(Glassy @ Dec 1 2006, 01:52 PM)
Ouch, no practice writing Moral essays at all? Bad game.

Anyway, whether you use "perlu" or "patut" or "seharusnya" or "sepatutnya", it matters. Goodness knows what I was thinking, I wasn't paying much attention on them. I believe if the examiners of the paper find it wrong, they'll just disregard the entire sentence completely. No marks for that sentence.

How can kesederhanaan relate to Skim Cepat Kaya? >_< Bersikap tidak keterlaluan? Tanpa mengabaikan kepentingan diri dan orang lain?

I did Rasional, Berdikari and Mematuhi Peraturan dan Undang-Undang for that. I think Mematuhi Peraturan dan Undang-Undang should be acceptable, because Skim Cepat Kaya is against the law, no? So anything to do with the skim would be against the law.
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harus and patut play the main role? I tot it supposed to be the nilai.
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QUOTE(Glassy @ Dec 1 2006, 02:01 PM)
It doesn't play a main role, it's one of those minor things which we rarely pay attention to but has the potential to screw us up really badly.

indiagnoziz, they will read and take into account up till your 3rd nilai, if the question asks for 2 nilai. If the question asks for 3, they'll read up till your 4th one. This applies for structure as well, they will read any ONE extra answer which you include, in addition to the answers you've already given.
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mayb scheme change this year, since we really have a lot of changes.

Btw, if the patut and harus really important, then i screwed it.
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QUOTE(julnoel @ Dec 1 2006, 02:03 PM)
i dont believe the examiners are that evil. not everyone was taught that the words mattered, at least i wasnt taught that. if they are going to mark you wrong because of that sort of error, they should just name the paper Bahasa Melayu instead. They would mark us on our values and the ideas given, not the stupid language.
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well, they are not evil but they have to obey the rules. rules is still rules.
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QUOTE(jason18689 @ Dec 1 2006, 02:06 PM)
we`re ? what do u mean by that ?
aiyohhh....u all when go book the trip 1 ?
cuz me and my friends oso going there...
but my friend la...tupid la..go book last week no place ad now....
we oso intend to go at 6,7,8 leh.....
how much ?
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Well, plz dun off topic.

QUOTE(Glassy @ Dec 1 2006, 02:08 PM)
For the sake of my own grade, I sincerely hope that you are correct. If it makes all of you [and myself for that matter] feel any better, I took private tuition from a VERY experienced Moral teacher for a few months, and he didn't mention a thing about it. I figured if it was important, he'd probably have mentioned it.

Kesederhanaan, hmm? Well, I guess I do see the reasoning behind it. The second reason is a bit too shaky for my liking though. Regardless, to his each own.
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well, if like that, without scheme, i believe most of the value can be accepted. then wat is the purpose? the purpose if let us follow the scheme. it is the style of malaysia education system.

of coz, i dun like this too. Im wrong too. But fact is still the fact, it is untwistable.

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QUOTE(lightbringer @ Dec 1 2006, 02:20 PM)
didn't moral taught them KEADILAN?? isn't it unfair to give us 0 marks juz becuz one word is wrong??
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fact is still the fact. Face the music. No fairness, do u think spm fair?
Of coz not, so y did u mention but fair again?
Fair is juz a dream.
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QUOTE(julnoel @ Dec 1 2006, 02:23 PM)
Out of say 100000 students, say 99000 get 40 and below. They have to pull it down doh.gif somehow..

someone once told me

the government wants to save face also, and wont purposely fail us. Imagine, 99000 students fail moral. a bit ~_~
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yea, this is another matter. The A1 is another matter again.
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 1 2006, 02:32 PM)
who told u A1 is 90-100? sweat.gif
if like that, I must be a genius during my time because I scored A1 laugh.gif

as Glassy said, it's >75 to get A1.
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yeah, impossible 90
around 70-80 will do...>85 confirm A1....Haha

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